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Started by Nickmsi, May 30, 2016, 04:43:02 PM

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Blue_Angel

Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 02, 2017, 12:18:53 PM
everyone rode the streak...
I've seen people win thousands on electronic roulette...

In general I consider good to do otherwise rather than following the majority...just mpov.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

ADulay

Quote from: Blue_Angel on May 02, 2017, 05:42:37 AM
You should know better after all these years, I didn't expect to receive this respond from someone like you.
Just a friendly tip, the best way to decide what to bet is to wait to see where the most money have been bet and then bet the opposite.
If you are the only person at the table then good luck...!

The question remains unanswered: "Just how are they (the cards) arranged"?

Not the particular method as that would be pretty simple to do.

I'd like to know the arrangement they make so that everyone, or most, lose at the baccarat table.

And if they're rigging the shoe so that the wagers on the most money are losing, I'd really like to know that one.

Thanks.

AD

alrelax

Quote from: ADulay on May 02, 2017, 05:59:12 PM

And if they're rigging the shoe so that the wagers on the most money are losing, I'd really like to know that one.

AD

Yes!  And at times it does seem that way and yet--at others (an equal amount or more??) that big money wins.  IMO--it seems we all dwell on and remember quite vividly those times when say some goes table max and every one is table min or close to it and the guy wagering the $10 or $25 wins. 

But, I have been at winning tables when the dealer had to pay in larger demonization chips and take back (say there was 4,900.00 out there in green and black) and the dealer would pay in purple and chocolate and take all the green and black, etc., until she got a fill that was being rushed.  Just most of the time the players give it back and don't take all the dealers bank in a short period of time, but it does happen. 

But, seriously in all reality there is nothing the shoe can produce that would guarantee the players lose, no matter how much they wager.  Since there is no optional draws or player/dealer generated optional anything--and since the player can wager on either side, there is no way a shoe can be set up to 'cheat' a player, maybe some far fetched theory about a continuous shuffled shoe with the card reader and motherboard fallacy within the shufflers, etc., however it is not a continuous shuffled shoe.

I have sat down countless times and after numerous losing hands, I see someone winning.  I go with them and they lose.  I wait out and they win the next 4 hands, I go with them and they lose.  I wait out and they win once again.  I mean every single time I go with them-they lose.  And this is for a period of 10-15 times, not once or twice or three or even four times.  It happens. And when I was wagering I might be $100 on my thinking and they are opposite me with $500 or $1,000 or more. 

I don't know about you, but I definitely remember my losses and those times when I won really good and then gave it all back rather than the times I win and it is not record setting, etc. 
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RouletteGhost

As much as I hate Caleb Johnson for being a forum thread destroyer, in sections he shouldn't be in (should stay in AP section) I know he claims to exploit airball wheels....so I don't know how rigged they are
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

Blue_Angel

@Dlay, Victor is a qualified programmer and could help you understand the technical details better than I could explained it to you.
Of course, if there isn't a continuous shuffler present at the Baccarat table, makes this scenario irrelevant, but RG spoke about machines.

I've noticed a disturbing trend, unfortunately there are only few individuals who create something new and unique but the majority imitates and copies, as a result a lot of useless information is being recycled for years, if not decades.
The progress in the right direction of knowledge and perception is being delayed significantly.
My methods perhaps not all so good but are mine and not a bad imitation, there is no competition for the Nobel prize but expressions of philosophies, perceptions.
Is this something which we can evaluate objectively or subjectively??
In my point of view there is objective reality, deceptive reality (intentionally) and misleading reality (unintentionally).
Therefore all come down to each person's judgement in order to separate the wheat from the chalk...in any way, the choice is yours.
There is no excuse such as someone told me to do so because the final decision is yours, you might choose right or wrong and whether you win or lose it's thanks to you.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

Baelog

Ok, so I have ran some simulations in Excel that I am posting here based on the information I have seen in the forum. I feel like I am very close to how Nickmsi is playing the game, but not all the way.

This is how I set up my excel program
- Only the 9 AP's
- Avoid mutual bet
- 500 random Descisions ( no live decks)
- Flatbet
- No stop loss

Here we go.

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This is the last one for now.

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