Use Math to beat Roulette/Baccarat

[plolp]

a little serious .
there is no description of spins played .

[Albalaha]

Ironically, people are still into a delusion that there will be a magical way of picking bets that will give any kind of advantage by itself. Never going to happen. Wake up guys.

[ADulay]

Hi Plop . .

I ran your numbers through my bot for roulette (1=B, 0=R) and got a -4 result.

Hope this is what you wanted.

Nick

I ran it tonight manually and and finished at -1 flat betting.

Evidently we're not all on the same page with real time play on this yet.

AD (live from the boat while offshore tonight)

[Sputnik]

Nick i could see that you have a Lanky PDF on your desktop, do you still have Contact with him? if not can you send the PDF :-)

Cheers Patrik from Sweden

[Nickmsi]

Hi Patrik . .

Sure, will be glad to email what I have on Lanky and have not heard from him.

Cheers

Nick

[Baelog]

I ran it tonight manually and and finished at -1 flat betting.

Evidently we're not all on the same page with real time play on this yet.

AD (live from the boat while offshore tonight)

I try to run it today and ended up with +1 flat betting. How should this be played ?

Baelog

[Nickmsi]

Adulay and Baelog . . .

As I mentioned from the beginning, this is a work in progress. 

I would appreciate it very much if both of you can give me the spin by spin detail of how both of you played it. You can email the details to me at nickmsi@aol.com or you can post it in the forum, but I know it is hard to post in these threads.

I will then compare to what I have coded and test all methods to see which way is best for now.

Thank you so much for your help.

Cheers

Nick

[Baelog]

Sure Nickmsi,

I played it in cycles of 9. If I had a winner before I waited for the next cycle. It gave me this result.
W        +1
LW        0
L           -1
LW        0
W        +1

Total +1

Baelog

[Nickmsi]

Thanks Baelog . . .

That explains it.  You played the full 9 spins every time, no matter if you won or loss.

The bot was starting a new session on a win or a mutual bet.

I suspect Adulay doing something similar to the bot.

I will do some additional tests to see if the Full Cycle betting is better or not.

Cheers

Nick

[ADulay]

OK, in order to show just how this was played, I transcribed my play here with explanations.

The first wager is at hand 4 completing the 2-3-4 AP and restarting the next 9 hands.

Next wager is hand 7 completing the 1-2-3-AP and restarting the next 9 hands.

The 1-2-3 AP loses its wager at hand 10 and the 2-4-6 AP at hand 13.

Hand 14 does complete the set with the 5-6-7 AP and of course the reset of the next 9 hands.

Hand 17 loses the 1-2-3.
Hand 20 wins with the 2-4-6 AP.   Reset the nine.

Hand 24 wins the 2-3-4 AP and a reset.

Hand 28 loses the 2-3-4 wager.
Hand 31 can end the set with either the 1-4-7 on Banker or the 3-5-7 on Player so it is a No Bet Draw AND a reset of the next nine.

Hand 35 wins the 2-3-4 AP and of course the next nine reset.

Hand 38 loses the 1-2-3 AP.
Hand 40 loses the 4-5-6 AP.
Hand 42 wins the 5-6-7 AP and of course a reset.

Hand 45 loses the 1-2-3 AP.
Hand 47 loses the 3-4-5 AP.
Hand 50 is a No Bet Draw due to the 2-5-8 and 4-6-8 both available to win.

No bets on the final two hands while waiting for the next AP to develop.

Hope this explains the play.

AD

[plolp]

Thanks for the description A dulay

line 14 you don't bet  because 1 4 7 give B

so  :  -2 

[ADulay]

Thanks for the description A dulay

line 14 you don't bet  because 1 4 7 give B

so  :  -2

Good catch.  Thanks.

AD

[RouletteGhost]

lanky quit the boards

maybe he lurks

or maybe he is here under another name

someone i knew spoke to him....said he quit over a VLS fued

he had a great method i made a forum for

a lot of waiting though

[Trbfla]

AD -thanks for the detailed playing. One question though, why a no bet at hand 50 when it would complete a 4-6-8?
Thanks

[Trbfla]

AD I just got it....lightbulb....the 2-5-8 right.....