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[Nickmsi]

Hi Ozon,

If my simulations generated the same results in Real Money Mode, I would be the happiest guy in the world.

But alas, they do not.

All the simulations do is point us in the right direction but only Real Money Mode can give you definitive results.

Another reason for playing VDW is lower and more stable variance.

Nick

[goez]

Hi Nick, have you run any simulation using just the first 6 numbers and restart. This may not be a true VdW but it sure avoid most of the mutual bets.

[Nickmsi]

Hi Goez,

Yes, indeed I have tested the first 6 numbers.  I have tested each number individually and in combination with other spins and could not see any significant results.

Cheers

Nick

[ozon]

I played today for a while, fun mode.
  Bet Selection is Vdw
Progression is MIke's theory, s, we play flat and we lose 3 times
Then we start recowery mode
1-2-3-5-8-13
Play to win in recovery mode, we totally ignore 3 lost bets that we played flat.
If we win on1 or 2 or 3 units we are back to the 1 unit flat
If we win on 5 units we stay one more spin same stake.
If we win on 8 or 13 we back one step down.
If we lose last step we start for begining.
I have not done simulations yet, but it is a bit complicated.

[goez]

Thank you Nick, save me wasting time doing it manually.

[plolp]

Is there a software that allows to display the 256 figures of 9 ? 

thank you in advance ...

plolp

[Nickmsi]

Yes, I have an excel sheet showing all 256 patterns, however I am driving to
Colorado to visit Grandsons so I can't send it till I get
back June 12.

If anyone else has the sheet, please upload and thanks

Nick

[ozon]

I just started to play that way.
3 sessions won at a fast pace.
Bet selection
Vdw combined with after 2 losing bets wait for virtual win, thus avoiding the series of loses
Target profit +7 units, stop loss -14 units.
I have no skill to program it, I play it manually

[plolp]

T2 wiesbaden 01/06/17


Same attack
Final score +12

Zero recognized as loss

[plolp]

The end

[edmelg]

is there an updated excel sheets for vdw so i can use as bet selection playing online?

[Nickmsi]

Hi Plolp

Back from vacation and have attached the spreadsheet showing 256 VDW patterns.

Hope this helps.

Nick

[plolp]

Thank you  Nickmsi

[Mike]

I haven't read through this entire thread, but it's claimed that this method of bet selection results in a lower variance than a random selection. Is there any statistical evidence of this?

One way to test the hypothesis is to count the number of gaps between wins for (a) the VDW, and (b) a random selection. You will end up with two sets of series of numbers. Now compute the standard deviation of both sets. If the VDW really does perform as claimed, its standard devation should be lower than that of the random selection.

[3Nine]

VdW is a 50/50 game.