Hi Lugi,

This is a response to your post in

https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/can-anyone-figure-out-how-many-possible-outcomes-exist-in-a-shoe-of-baccarat/msg64459/#newYes, I couldn’t understand either how you could get an edge when you still get 4W and 4L. I thought the exact thing and figured that since it has been 55 years since college math and dementia is slowing creeping up on me that it must be some kind of math voodoo or new math that I am not aware of.

They showed the bias when applying Fractions to the 3 spin/hand sets as follows:

OOO NB NB NB

OOX NB NB NB Fractions

OXO NB L NB L 0

OXX NB L NB L 0

XOO NB W NB W 1

XOX NB L NB L 0

XXO NB W L WL .5

XXX NB W W WW 1

2.5/6

If you can understand it then “ You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din!” But what I do understand is how to test systems.

I have a data file with 100,000 No Zero spins collected from BetVoyager. So I tested both FOR and AGAINST to see if any difference. I used a unit of 1 for both tests on the same data.

The FOR resulted in a loss of -358 units and the AGAINST had a profit of +173.

Having no more No Zero data or baccarat data I tested FOR and AGAINST with 10,000 Single Zero spins from a German Casino knowing that both systems will probably lose but I wanted to see which one loss less.

The FOR test resulted in a High of 11, Low of -229 and ended with -184.

The AGAINST resulted in a High of 39, Low 0f -159 and ended with -142.

Still not proof positive but a good indication.

Currently we are testing individual AGAINST sessions with Bet Voyager and with progression. We have complete 43 sessions and have won 42.

Again, not proof positive but a stronger indication. Testing continues.

Cheers

Nick