Quote from: ignatus on February 03, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
Update: +662 SEK Real money!

Great stuff no one would like to see you prove the naysayers wrong more than me. Keep it going until you are so far ahead that the odd loss here and there means little. That is all we have to do.

Thanks 

ignatus

I agree with Jl for once!!  If anyone deserves to win, you do.

Sam

I think all of us here deserve to win. It is just getting into that winning routine and then maintaining that discipline to quit when ahead.

cheers

Quote from: ignatus on February 02, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
15 
22  Trigger 1,3 - bet 2
15
19
21
31  Stop 
22
15
36 Virtual win Trigger 1,2 - Bet 3
36
19
0
23 Stop

So, progression reach 8th step is not end of the world? progression is 9 steps12 numbers: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21

Another progression that can be useful is the +1 progression, it's very effective and last much longer than ordinary progression. +1 bet until hit. (or one hit within the first 4 spins then reset) or else two hits in sequence (4 spins) before reset.

do you want me to search further for a loss?
you have progression
1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21
and
1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21
which is it then? sometimes you say one sometimes the other

if this system gives you any kind of advantage I would like to suggest to you to use +1 on a loss and -2 on a win, reset in plus
what do you think?

found your loss on spin 338

18
21
18
25
0
19
5
32
16
1
13
35
4

think about +1/-2 progression, it does really well

Looking at the wheel in my lap.  Well, a picture..........

Dozen 1 goes clockwise from 0 to 27.
Dozen 2 continues for 12 pockets
Dozen 3 continues for 12 pockets.

So if it hit 1 and then 2 it went a little further.  Hoping it will go further and hit 3.

Hear me now and believe me later:  Breaking the wheel down into cc and ccw spins would help this immensely.  I have software I bought to prove it.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 03, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Looking at the wheel in my lap.  Well, a picture..........

Dozen 1 goes clockwise from 0 to 27.
Dozen 2 continues for 12 pockets
Dozen 3 continues for 12 pockets.

So if it hit 1 and then 2 it went a little further.  Hoping it will go further and hit 3.

Hear me now and believe me later:  Breaking the wheel down into cc and ccw spins would help this immensely.  I have software I bought to prove it.

Sam

yep, I agree with you

Quote from: soggett on February 03, 2013, 04:15:11 PM
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think about +1/-2 progression, it does really well[/size]

I have already suggested this progression ( see my test results on the thread ) and it does realy well. In combination with stop after 4 loss may be even better/ safer.

tomorrow i continue to test my actuals

Quote from: peauke on February 03, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
I have already suggested this progression ( see my test results on the thread ) and it does realy well. In combination with stop after 4 loss may be even better/ safer.

tomorrow i continue to test my actuals

sorry, I must have missed it
yes, i ment with stop after 4 loss
so far in 500 spins max bet was 15 units per number (DD was just under 2000 units) so don't think it will be playable but we will see

Quote from: JohnLegend on February 03, 2013, 06:12:33 AM
Really, so when does class begin Marigny? The problem with people like you Spike and Gizmo is you think you already know it all.

That's why all three of you will be the first people I will be calling out. To explain how things that don't work, produced outstanding success in July and beyond. I will then hope you have the decency to admit.

Your beliefs on the outcome of trigger based methods and progressions, don't represent a FACTUAL OUTCOME, for this game. They represent YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, CHOICE. In your outlook on the game.

I do not know what you mean by calling out. I don't think i know it all so i learn, and because i do learn i bet 1:10 that this bet selection can not work as it is.  And there your "factual outcome" will actually cost you money.
I sometimes wonder if you are serious on your statements. I openly share knowledge based on verifiable observations and i do not teach... Not only words or empty statements.- Back it up first, then we can talk.
Good Luck.
I read loads of systems presented on forums and i do not nag them, as most of the time the authors have or will arrive at a realistic expectation.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on February 03, 2013, 10:48:53 PM

I do not know what you mean by calling out. I don't think i know it all so i learn, and because i do learn i bet 1:10 that this bet selection can not work as it is.  And there your "factual outcome" will actually cost you money.
I sometimes wonder if you are serious on your statements. I openly share knowledge based on verifiable observations and i do not teach... Not only words or empty statements.- Back it up first, then we can talk.
Good Luck.
I read loads of systems presented on forums and i do not nag them, as most of the time the authors have or will arrive at a realistic expectation.

Well lets wait and see. Ignatus is having good success with it. I say to you as I say to others about my methods. Knowing something can lose, and meeting that loss are two different things.

I am deadly serious no one will take me seriously until July. Not even the guy im paying to verify my challenge. The realization will slowly start to come to him around the end of March. And it will most certainly start registering with you guys by July.

By years end there won't be a right thinking person who doubts me again. Then the ball will be in your court. Those who think 1 plus 1 thinking applies to a players potential to beat this game are in for the wake up call. You don't 100 fold a bankroll with things that don't work.

Now getting back to this thread. Ignatus is putting forward the notion that wheel based dozens have an edge over the layout. It requires alot more BR outlay. But it also returns in proportion to that risk. Im not an expert on this kind of play. But it looks promising from where im standing. Im testing this myself.

@ sogget

Quotetake a look a t DB4000 spin file

Where could I find it ?!?

Could you just give me a brief idea on  1/ -2 progression ?!?

Ray

Half my wingoal for today reached.+1600 SEK! (my wingoal is 1000 SEK/day)

About the +1 progression: After 4 losses in a row, I use to start next session with 5 unit bet. (not more than 5 units) Sometimes I have to start with 5 unit bet several times to get fully recovered and profit

Update testing:


until now i tested 200 sessions (about 8345 spins live casino) total of +13668 units. (see graph and profit/loss per session)


new update when 250 sessions tested 


I haven't tested the method when lose 4 in a row wait Virtual win. Will do this when i complete my 300 sessions.