This is the final tweak for this strategy. 7 streets bet (21 numbers). it should be faster to play... I tried a new set of live-spins, and they were all successful.

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly (3) spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fourth spin,--Bet all streets in the two dozens, all except the current street hit. ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): After a win/loss, wait for the sleeper to awaken, then go to step (1)

Progression -none- FLATBET

5/5 Games won

Played with 25u bets (wingoal +500, stoploss -500)

Quote from: ignatus on September 11, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
This is the final tweak for this strategy. 7 streets bet (21 numbers). it should be faster to play... I tried a new set of live-spins, and they were all successful.

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly (3) spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fourth spin,--Bet all streets in the two dozens, all except the current street hit. ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): After a win/loss, wait for the sleeper to awaken, then go to step (1)

Progression -none- FLATBET

5/5 Games won

Played with 25u bets (wingoal +500, stoploss -500)

This is old. Did anyone see this?  Any discussion?

Mogul,



I don`t believe  that anyone ever played Ignatius  methods. He  was/ still is churning out  practically  one method a day. It is a hobby of his nothing spectacular.
System ideas on message board come and  go. I never ever considered anyone of those  as full value. 

Same as here at VLS bet selection. Nothing special in roulette or baccarat . No real Pros. Fumbling along.Still one of the better forum around. Good general information..

What matters is the PROPER bankroll  for the method of play.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 09, 2016, 12:37:59 PM
Mogul,



I don`t believe  that anyone ever played Ignatius  methods. He  was/ still is churning out  practically  one method a day. It is a hobby of his nothing spectacular.
System ideas on message board come and  go. I never ever considered anyone of those  as full value. 

Same as here at VLS bet selection. Nothing special in roulette or baccarat . No real Pros. Fumbling along.Still one of the better forum around. Good general information..

What matters is the PROPER bankroll  for the method of play.

Thanks.  Sad to know. Is that

a) an indictment of Ignatius?
b) An indictment of people who think or know that everything is garbage?
c) an indictment of lazy people?

If someone posts something here I'd thing there would be at least
one page of workouts. On it's face the performance of this method looks
interesting.  $25 chips and 20 units. Usually a $500 profit. A little waiting, but
I think it is good if you can bet large and just get it done. Flat bet.

Please look at his spread sheets. They tell a story.

Given that the name of this forum is bet selection then let's encourage Ignatus to keep posting his ideas.

And be grateful for them.

At least he bothers to present then -- unlike the majority who sit back and contribute nothing.

Yes, of course some of the methods will work well, some will be so-so, and some will be dry wells.

But interested members will find out for themselves. 

Quote from: esoito on July 09, 2016, 11:52:16 PM
Given that the name of this forum is bet selection then let's encourage Ignatus to keep posting his ideas.

And be grateful for them.

At least he bothers to present then -- unlike the majority who sit back and contribute nothing.

Yes, of course some of the methods will work well, some will be so-so, and some will be dry wells.

But interested members will find out for themselves.

Good words.

Agreed.  That's what we're here for.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 09, 2016, 11:18:47 PM
Please look at his spread sheets. They tell a story.

I think I know what you are saying Nathan. 

Could you be more clear about what story they tell?

When I look at it, I look at it from the perspective of a day trader.
There is a "channel".  And there are pullbacks, but the trend is up.
That is the story that I see.  That comes from using those tools to
evaluate it.

I am a "technical trader". There is a question asked.

Q: What is the worst thing that can happen to a technical trader"?
A:  "They might "hear" something.......

Technicians operate based on trends and expectations.  Hearing
stories about this or that, just clog up their minds.

But let me ask again. What story does it tell you? My imagination tells me
something less than good. But again, see how those "stories" can get mixed?

Mogul,


As much as I would  love to answer your question my solid money management  includes leaving a session after 3 losses in a row or when I have reached  reached  the loss limit of 25 % of the session bankroll.

Those spread sheets tell  me the  whole story. Therefore take the time and calculate  for yourself.

Here on this forum as well asmn Steve`s RFcc I feel muzzled to speak the truth as  I see it .More and more Orwellian.

MM info for recreational  purposes only. Play at your own risk.

Quote from: ignatus on September 11, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
This is the final tweak for this strategy. 7 streets bet (21 numbers). it should be faster to play... I tried a new set of live-spins, and they were all successful.

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly (3) spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fourth spin,--Bet all streets in the two dozens, all except the current street hit. ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): After a win/loss, wait for the sleeper to awaken, then go to step (1)

Progression -none- FLATBET

5/5 Games won

Played with 25u bets (wingoal +500, stoploss -500)

Mogul,
Interesting twist on what is essentially a double dozen strategy. Thanks for "bumping" it up -- it is definitely worth paper-testing.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on August 27, 2016, 07:26:06 PM
Mogul,


As much as I would  love to answer your question my solid money management  includes leaving a session after 3 losses in a row or when I have reached  reached  the loss limit of 25 % of the session bankroll.

Those spread sheets tell  me the  whole story. Therefore take the time and calculate  for yourself.

Here on this forum as well asmn Steve`s RFcc I feel muzzled to speak the truth as  I see it .More and more Orwellian.

MM info for recreational  purposes only. Play at your own risk.

Well talking in riddles doesn't help.  It gets old.  People will only view you as
a "sage" so long. Until the realize you aren't saying anything.

The only fact I can glean from your response is the 25% drawdown. Yes, those
graphs do exibit more than that, it might seem.  Each time. So I suppose a method
where that does or can happen is not for you. Even if it works.