The 6 things a great baccarat player absolutely must subscribe to!

ABC's/1-2-3s of Skills

A-#1)    Leaving Stuck/Stop Loss. Simply the hardest to do and yet, just about all the magical systems people and other general authors and gaming experts highly recommend it.  And others will swear up and down you do not have to leave stuck or losing money by following a system of one type or another.  Whatever it is, here is what the real and professional baccarat player will enlist as his Number 1 protocol in skill.  Losing a buy-in, if the buy-in was the actual total amount the player brought to risk for his session, if lost-he stops. How much the player buys in with is highly dependent and greatly independent upon his bank roll and financial situation, etc.  But all in all, the baccarat player must risk a certain buy-in.  If it happens, it happens.  If he does not win with that buy-in, it generally will not happen even with continued buy-ins.  A fallacy so many fall victim to is, wager a negative progression until you are even then stop without losing.  That is truly a casinos dream and a players nightmare.  Do not do it.  Do not even read material that suggest to do anything along those lines.  You will hurt yourself and find yourself without any reasonable thought once it happens each time.   Here, let me put it in terms easier to grasp.  Say you lost your longtime girlfriend or wife (and you were madly in love with her--by the way) to some other guy.  You bumped into his girlfriend or wife that just dumped him because she found out he was cheating with yours.  So, you thought what would be good for the goose is great for the gander as well.  A few months later you find out your 'new' girl is diagnosed with full blown AIDS and your blood test proved positive as well.   

B-#2)    Stealing A Situation. When the shoe formations are strong or weak and the timing is spot-on, you are capitalizing on the bet placements you are wagering.  Forget everything else, continue the capitalization and the wagering with the largest, pounce on it type of positive progressions. Remember the limited sections and shoes that any kind of situation can be present, or you will NOT be able to identify such and be able to wager on same.  Steal the situation with every ounce of energy and motivation you can physically present and then revert when it is over.  Do not attempt the furtherance of what just happened to your good fortune in any way, shape or form of wagering as you just did.

C-#3)    Wagering Less/Gearing Yourself Down. Playing at a certain level, especially trying to recoup or force yourself to win is wrong, deadly and a skill not to employ under almost any situation or condition.  Extremely hard but with conscious thought, you should be able to avoid it.  And if you can, you must!  A real good baccarat player recognizes the great shoes and the horrible ones also.  He also knows that so many shoes will be a combination of both of those with an added twist of nothing can really be wagered on and those are the ones you normally lose 8-10 out of every 10 wagers you make.  Understand?   If you want to wait for the great shoes and you have to sit there and learn how to play less and gear yourself down.  Jumping from table to table is most everyone's answer to their dreams in baccarat.  All that normally does is create confusion, clouded thought, incomplete pictures and less than optimal knowledge of the shoe already in play.  And that is exactly why most all casinos, at least the ones I know of, have no problem with you jumping from table to table.

ABC's/1-2-3s of Avoidance

A-#1)    Progressions/Increasing & Marty's to recoup lost wagers. Attempting catch-up will almost certainly always fail.  You are failing for a reason prior to the negative progression and Marty's, etc.  And merely throwing greater amounts out for your wager will not and cannot correct what is actually the problem.  Nearly 100% of the time the problem is with everything you are feeling and doing, rather than your actual bet placement process.  It is two different areas, you have to have the first one clear and spot on, which is the process that involves everything except the actual wagering.  Then the second process the first one will get you to, is the bet placement selection.

B-#2)    Playing After Substantial Wins. Super dangerous, period.  Most will think that all the energy and motivation and financial sources just won, would give themselves the power to win more.  It does not and more often than continued success, failure sets in and sets in real fast.  A certain way to lose all your winnings, as well as your buy in and risk funds you are holding, is to continue to play in the same state of mind your substantial win has moved your brain and heart into.  Winning effects the highest majority of baccarat players in a negative way and clouds their intelligence and their decision-making thought process incredibly.  You must develop a system that will allow you to hold certain amounts of your win funds without the risk of losing them back.  You must develop a multi-stages effort that is tangible and conscious within your thought.  Or, you will give back all your winnings, your buy in and other funds when your regression to the non-substantial win stage sets in.  And coloring up some chips and sticking some purples, yellows, oranges, flags or chocolates in your pocket, is not going to do it either--that does not work.

C-#3)    Forget Everything (Statistical and Personal). You have to learn to sit down and play at the baccarat table with an absolute clear, unaffected mind, no thoughts or concerns of anything outside of the table you are at, along with a refusal to rely and base what is happening, happened or what you want to happen and wager on---from your previous playing experiences and shoes, anywhere at any time.  You have to learn that the shoe you are gambling at, has no dependency or connection to any statistical or other tangible or intangible research or thought, anywhere, anyplace, any way, shape or form.  You have to view the shoe you are playing in relation to the formation and what is being presented in a suspended state, by itself and as virgin and without any history as a new born baby.

That's a good list indeed.
Probably casinos would win much less if every player will follow religiously those guidelines.

You have to learn that the shoe you are gambling at, has no dependency or connection to any statistical or other tangible or intangible research or thought, anywhere, anyplace, any way, shape or form


I agree with this statement only because you used the word "gambling".

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Remember the limited sections and shoes that any kind of situation can be present, or you will NOT be able to identify such and be able to wager on same.  Steal the situation with every ounce of energy and motivation you can physically present and then revert when it is over.

I can't agree with you enough. 

as.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 14, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
That's a good list indeed.
Probably casinos would win much less if every player will follow religiously those guidelines.

You have to learn that the shoe you are gambling at, has no dependency or connection to any statistical or other tangible or intangible research or thought, anywhere, anyplace, any way, shape or form


I agree with this statement only because you used the word "gambling".

as.

Matches what you wrote yesterday within your thread.

KungFuBac,

#A1, has the answer to your previous "How do you deal with 3 or 4 iar" losses, etc. 

" But all in all, the baccarat player must risk a certain buy-in.  If it happens, it happens.  If he does not win with that buy-in, it generally will not happen even with continued buy-ins."

Please read it, as I believe this is one of the best and most detailed informative posts I ever made. (?)

In addition, after a lengthy discussion with two bac players the other night, I add the following comments.  Yes, they probably  have all been said at one time or another, but they are factual and prevalent to a positive game if used with a clear mind.

* Excuses not to wager something are always there for the player to cite and believe in;

* Why do you need a pattern/trend that is redundant, consistent or reappearing before wager on it, etc., etc.?;

* Why not wager on the hands while they are appearing and accept it as a Random-Trend/Pattern?  Seriously does winning thousands of dollars off a pattern that no one believes in and is 100% happening, hand after hand, spend any different from wins that come much harder in nature?;

* Why do you have to be 'ahead' of the shoe in predicting the cuts and changes or even the beginning of a redundant pattern, rather than just following the shoe presentments for select sections?

* We hear all the time, "it has to stop/cut", "it has to run", "such and such a card came out so that means ........", etc.  Well, figuring it all out is exactly why the casinos put those electronic score boards there, LOL.  You want to know something, years ago prior to 2000 or so, the casinos had no score boards and they had larger 14 player/3 dealer tables where the players would actually deal the cards.  But the casinos repeatedly got hurt so they changed the way the game was played, dealt and wagered on. 

Thx alrelax for posts and bump of older posts.

re: alrelax statement "...You want to know something, years ago prior to 2000 or so, the casinos had no score boards and they had larger 14 player/3 dealer tables where the players would actually deal the cards.  But the casinos repeatedly got hurt so they changed the way the game was played, dealt and wagered on. .."

This was about the time I started playing I believe. I don't recall ever playing without at least a basic toteboard--score board,  in my early years. As best I recall , and it seems the toteboards around this time were very basic (or at least not as much detail/events) as the current toteboards. I may be mistaken but don't recall seeing as many bonus wagers then either, again, maybe mistaken as I didn't wager bonus or ties so maybe I just didn't pay attention.

Q1: Prior to late 90s how and what did players track as Im sure players tracked something(e.g., cards, hi-lo, even -odds, p/b,...etc) using /writing on their trusty Chief tablet or portable abacus  , or did majority of players just bet opp or same, only for or only against current dealer??? Other??? 

Thx in advance,

It was banker, player and ties only.

There were always the paper scorecards and pens available. 

Camaraderie was huge.  Most players grouped up together the majority of the times. Best I can define it overall was strong and weak were large deciding factors in wagering.  Players held the shoe and dealt the cards, you held the shoe as long as you made a banker hand, no matter what side you wagered on.  Once a player hand was made, the shoe traveled to your right, next player seated. 

Dealers could not get tapped out until a player hand was made as well.  A rack fill could not be engaged in as well until a player hand was made. 

On any streak, on any chop chop, the house lost large amounts of money.  Almost all big bac tables were $100 min.  Mini bac was out in the main floors, usually $25 min. But dealer dealt the cards and flipped them always.