Hi guys,

it's a new year and I hope everyone is doing well.

As some of you know, I am using a strategy and it's doing well till now. I did posted some screenshots of my play somewhere and quite a few has shown interest. Unfortunately I can't give my system away, a promise I made to a close friend of mine. Yes, we came up of this system.

So I came up with a proposal. A profit sharing plan where members can invest "X" amount, let's say 200. End of the month, the investor profits 100 and gets back 300 in total. That adds to 50% ROI per month. That's the basics of my proposal. Everything will be played on my account, I am doing all the work so its like a passive income for you.

A few days ago I have spoken to some of you who I am closer with and they are interested in my proposal. I have also spoken to Vic and he has asked for the approval from other mods. So far, majority has voted yes. But I would like the feedback of the public.

Vic will open a blog if this gets enough interest. That gives full transparency allowing people to follow the results. More detailed information regarding the profit sharing will be released in the blog as the time comes. Do sound out if you are interested:)

Have a great year ahead!

Vote in the mods lounge is currently at 3/5, we need to get the full mod crew to cast a vote prior to officially opening a section in our blogosphere space.

The idea so far is that a public section gives full transparency to the process, and personally I am open for having sections for special members who are successful players to offer their services for backing them up.

Of course it goes without saying the member needs full mod crew + community approval and the transactions are 100% 1-to-1 in between members and our site takes no responsibility either way.

We don't ask for a cut of people's wins; likewise, we won't take any responsibility should things go sour.

We are only offering the hosting space. No more and no less.

Let's wait and see what the fellows in the mod crew say, it usually takes a full week or so in order for all the mods to visit around and it's early in the year. So far things are moving forward since weddings is a well-reputed member of our community and certainly has a share of our appreciation.

So, we're in "waiting mode" on the side of the staff, you guys feel free to voice your opinions. We are listening.

I'm glad you are doing well Weddings.....but this kind of offer is wrong. You know, I know and everyone who isn't gullible knows that your proposal isn't achievable....not in roulette anyhow.

You can't possibly put this forward without the caveat "you may get no return on your money, or lose your stake"

You have to specify that, and therefore take the edge of what appears to be too good to be true.

I most certainly will not be staking in this idea but I wish lots of luck to all who do.

People need to realize that the reason they would invest in this is because they can't get returns like that them self. They then need to realize that  they are experts in this game, and 50% return guaranteed is not achievable. The risk is identical to all the efforts you put in yourself....from which you have learned that 50% return is not achievable...guaranteed.

5% isn't achievable guaranteed

My advice is free and no one needs to subscribe to that advice.

Take it or leave it.

I know what you mean. As the saying goes there will always be two sides, one supporting one against. I wouldn't be here if I am not confident in what I do. Again as I said it's up to the investor whether he or she wants to invest in me. But i am glad you voiced out your opinion. In the worst case as you said, the invested stake will be returned.

I will be in support of this and will be prepared to invest +200 units say in this prototype venture but I recommend that a percentage of profits or turnover/churn go to the Forum, much as the Host for a Baccarat or Poker game might demand.
This could be a fantastic commercial application as independent and objective host by the BetSelection.cc Forum. There may be some contractual or legal issues to consider however.


In fact I would participate only on the basis that the Forum benefited. I like the commercial application, and the potential to expand this intellectual property base within the Forum amongst the members so they that choose may benefit. It is a win-win.


Very interesting.

It is a tired old fallacy that someone investing in this has no self ability to earn from roulette or to earn at such a rate. Quite the reverse, as my own earnings can quickly cover this higher level of risk*. I support expansion. Also I would recommend a philosophical stance of being open to change, as there are several examples in current world investment strategies that relate to new paradigms through electronic currency and use of computers for research and development.


We shall see how this prototype fares.

It is an exciting and refreshing idea. Yes there is risk of which I am keenly aware but I am prepared to support and contribute to a direction that 'expands' the current self limited view of things.

It is a very demanding challenge that has been set by the project initiators and will be fascinating to see unfold. I wish all well. You will of course issue a Universal Disclaimer.

Best
XXVV


*rate of earning


This is a term that can vary wildly over the event horizon monitored. In a recent live testing my SF Theory bet application earned +270 units in 35 spins. Does this mean that I always earn at that rate? - Of course not in fact the big picture rate averages around +0.5 units per spin, being a +50% edge flat staking. However despite that I have encountered variance where I have encountered 5 losing sessions among 7 sessions, quickly followed I should add by 7 consecutive winning sessions. Of course those who have no ability to think about the inter-connectedness of spins or experience will ignore this.

Thanks xxvv. I must say that yr research has been a great help in how I view roulette. Yes 5% seems to be a good idea, seeing that Vic needs some help with hosting cost.

The proposal is still new so maybe the first few batch of investors can come up with suggestions to improve. So I assume end of the month 45% goes to investors while 5% goes to forum maintenance?

Thanks weddings, and my reply was modified while you were in reply, so the detail needs to be discussed once the principle is agreed to. Looking forward to what unfolds and I will P/M in due course.

Yes I read your modified version. Every details will be stated once the blog is ready. So far my roi has been more than 50% that is why I am confident in that figure. As the profit sharing progress, things will be sorted out for improvements. Of cause, if everyone in the group agrees.

.... if someone is going to invest in this he or she has the right at least to know what the system is..... suppose if it goes wrong.....




I have my doubts about this..... ps, why not play with your own money??








Carlitos 

".... if someone is going to invest in this he or she has the right at least to know what the system is..... suppose if it goes wrong....."

Knowing what the system is won't make a scrap of difference if "...it goes wrong...." !!

What's the worst that can happen? You lose your investment, that's what.  But players face that risk all the time, don't they?

So the normal caveat applies:  only "invest" (if that really is the right word) money you can afford to lose
-- money that's not essential for house-keeping and the like. Recreational, disposable income, in other words.

Otherwise, simply keep your money under the mattress where inflation will nibble it away instead.

Hi carlitis. Are you saying if I told you my system, nothing will go wrong? No right? I can say whatever I want about the system, but ultimately its the results that will prove it.

As Vic said the open blog gives full transparency as well as letting more people follow the results and "piggyback" after the first group. So you can wait to see the results of the group.

As to why not play with my own money. I am. Right now my system is coded to run with stepf's Excel bot. With our without your investments I will be using my system. Your investments will be used to just copy my bets. Think of it like copying a trade from a professional in forex.

So what do I gain? Like I said I used to get roi with more than 50%. So investors gets their share while I gain mine. It's a win win situation. I am not forcing anyone here only interested members can come forward. I will be more than delighted to answer any of your questions.

@ Weddings
The best way of doing such thing is to publish your own winnings for a week, prior to asking anyone to "invest" with you in this topic itself. There will be a big queue of investors who would be willing to take a "plunge" in your winning streak believing it a long time winner.
                           Gambling is all about taking risk so as Esoito said and I believe, Even if you are the best roulette player ever, stake as much on table as you can afford to lose.

Quote from: Albalaha on January 10, 2014, 07:19:53 AM
@ Weddings
The best way of doing such thing is to publish your own winnings for a week/s, prior to asking anyone to "invest" with you in this topic itself.


-finally I agree with Alba for once.....but not week,but S.--personally would never accept such offer,investing in something am not participating myself.You would be better selling it after showing
long constant winnings screanshots....just my 2 chips.
                         

Posted a few days back. I do play with redbet too but there's no history like bv. How many weeks is sufficent?

1. In terms of the number of placed bets, how long have you been playing it?
The concept itself more than a year. But now I am playing the tweaked version.

2. Which casino(s) are you playing at?
Bv, redbet

3. What kind of system is it? (ECs, a few numbers straight up, etc)
Straight ups only. Range from 1 number to 9 numbers max
Average 2 to 4 numbers.

Thanks. The reason I asked how long you've been playing in terms of the number of placed bets is because just giving a time doesn't mean much; if you only place 50 bets per week it wouldn't be as reliable a result as if you'd played 500 - see what I mean?


So you're playing at BV - is that the live wheel? if so you can't have played much because they've only just opened it.


I don't mean for this to sound like an inquisition, it's just that I'm guessing any potential "investor" would be happier with a long track record rather than a short one, and if you're only playing 2-4 numbers on average it takes a lot more placed bets to give some indication of consistency than if you're playing 18 or 24 numbers.