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Re: Swiss Dreams
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2015, 06:21:24 am »
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  • There are many many ways to take advantage of short cycle trend patterns in roulette, and the pairs matrix is a very clever tool with which to assist this search and capture.

    Here is a sequence of 90 spins from February 2015 from Christchurch casino live.

    23
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    34
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    There are may ways you can attack worthy targets. In this case we shall target aa,bb,cc and will close a session when the target has been hit. The target will be bb to start and the hunt is triggered when one of the aa,bb,cc appears, and even overlaps a game when two may appear in close proximity.

    bb  target
    ab
    cb
    ca
    bb  hit  +1+1-2 +4   flat staking and 1 unit on b doz and 1 unit on b col   +4  ----
    bc
    ba
    bb  target
    ab
    bb  hit +1+4  flat staking +5 ----
    ----
    aa
    ac
    ab
    ac
    ba
    ca
    ab
    bc
    cb
    aa  hit +1+1+1+1+1+1+1-2-2+4   +7 o/a
    ----

    will pause and complete the detail tomorrow - only variation is that my recommendation is to SL on -2-2-2, and resume when say ab or say cb or ba appears for a +1 result which triggers re-commencement.

    Overall result pattern is

    +4+5+7+6-2+0+6+2-5  =  +23 units overall in 90 spins.


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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #46 on: December 28, 2015, 07:06:50 pm »
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  • Now here is a general comment in the midst of the Swiss Dream.

    Five years is a long time. Over that period we can all change a lot in our knowledge, attitude and priorities.

    Also at that time for the many of us who read and followed the W3Million thread, and were encouraged to develop our ideas and theories and communicate these to a one sided blog. Data went in, but did not come out. It was like a black hole. The replies from team W3M were often faked with dummy members like Tasha et al in order to skew communication. I recall I placed a couple of messages, and usually they would appear on the site after an hour or so. Everything was screened, filtered and controlled. Occasionally they made mistakes, and one of my German colleagues picked these up and so saved himself some money.

    What I am driving at here though is that Simon and his team ( I think there were two in the setup) and CEH always encouraged silence and no discussion amongst his followers. They wanted the best ideas sent to them exclusively. Very valuable information gained in this long sting by the fraudsters.

    So this thread is an opportunity to share and publiish what you had thought, and instead of having your ideas stolen, here is an idea to have the best minds we can gather together and build on our collective knowledge where there really is something to build on.

    Already thanks to Carlitos and RLogic we have seen summaries and statements that are very clear, and really are fresh to me. Roulette is such a complex matrix within a matrix that infinite possibilities are valid.

    It is my view that with the correct mindset/ attitude/ insight you can extract profits from quite a variety of sources given that you understand the short cycle nature of roulette ( as well as the medium and long cycles as well), and by knowing when to stop and take suitable profit, some of the tools being revealed here, and the multi- level ( bet within a bet) approaches can be fun and profitable.

    Please feel free to contribute here, or if you feel constrained by my Moderation, publish elsewhere on the forum. Thanks to some who have already done this. Take a fresh look at all possibilities in a new spirit of adventure and opportunity. Remember in this Forum we are so assisted by the experience and good will of Vic and the excellent seamless work of the Moderators. Most of the trolls are removed and if they return they soon get frustrated, unable to practice their anti-social and fixed view antics.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #47 on: December 28, 2015, 09:03:14 pm »
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  • HI XXVV

    Post #45 is very interesting and informative.  I will have a closer look at it over the next few days and come back with my findings.  Many thanks for sharing this idea.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #48 on: December 29, 2015, 03:17:24 am »
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  • HI XXVV

    Post #45 is very interesting and informative.  I will have a closer look at it over the next few days and come back with my findings.  Many thanks for sharing this idea.

    Thanks Shuttle.

    I worked with CS1968 and we exchanged a lot of information 5 years ago.

    He is a remarkable researcher, as is Razor, from that original roulette forum.

    Please understand I am not advocating the pairs matrix as a CWB , ie something that provides a consistent edge.

    However it is an effective multi-directional tool, and with care and judicious use you will find some short cycle profit.

    It will not provide, used the way I have shown, long term consistent profit because it will require regular stops or adjustments or reversals.

    But that takes nothing away from how highly I value this exquisite compact tool.

    What it may also provide however is a path to a three step bet, more as CEH alluded, and my hint is that use of columns will help especially with the knowledge of the different colour bias on columns 2 and 3, or b and c.

    Going along that path really is like a search for The Grail. If you are interested I can provide further contact points in confidence, by PM.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #49 on: December 30, 2015, 06:58:33 am »
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  • Reading some of the work in 2014 from 6th Sense who has a Blog on this Forum- it would be most interesting to hear from him, with the cogs and wheels, and his work with bots. This will overlap also with the work by Nickmsi - he might like also to comment on any progress.

    In October 2013  6thSense  wrote a very interesting study showing the remarkable limiting effect on the choice of inside number options when all EC variables are considered, and in combination with column locations. The work by 6thSense quite fortuitously seems to overlap with the earlier work by CS1968.

    It is one matter to highlight these apparent aberrations but quite another to put these to practical and intelligent use to enable a true CWB.  With the benefit of time lapse, other writings, fresh fusion and also taking into account 6thSense later writings a timely overview might be possible.

    Next week I will be re-visiting my D+C work, the Loss Bet and the ideas there. The Loss Bet is a reverse bet and actually was the result of a suggestion indirectly from Simon. It works.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #50 on: December 30, 2015, 09:33:27 am »
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    In October 2013  6thSense  wrote a very interesting study showing the remarkable limiting effect on the choice of inside number options when all EC variables are considered, and in combination with column locations.   

    When using all EC varations on inside numbers we have all 36 numbers except the zero. How it is then used with columns.....??


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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #51 on: December 30, 2015, 05:57:00 pm »
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  • ....sorry, iam not into dozen and columns. I simple do not like them.... merry christmas :-)

    What an interesting thread. As many here know, I'm into sets of dozens, three groups of twelve each. It makes me want to revisit collision bets or combo bets more, "Re: Collision, When Worlds Collide" ; http://betselection.cc/gizmotron/collision-when-worlds-collide/ 

    I never looked for the balance point for combo bets in the three table options for EC's. Carlitos, you pointed out that there are only 8 sets. I never thought of that before. There are 4.5 numbers per set, on average. 8 times 4.5 = 36, the pay off result of a straight up win. So one of these sets must win 1 out of 8 tries to balance in large averages. It opens the mind to ideas like staying put on one set for 8 tries.

    Ideas like that get me back to combining two columns with one active EC in search of hot combos. All these new ideas for me because of this thread.

    P.S. XXVV, I just love your reference to the math oriented absolutists, frequentist interpretation, as a "Posse" ; "We don't need no stinking badges."
    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #52 on: December 30, 2015, 06:43:07 pm »
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  • Okay thanks Carlitos.  I think I understand that approach.  This application appears to provide more 'stability'/ 'consistency' and by breaking the outcomes unfolding spin by spin, and putting them in certain categories of D+C, and by focus on say black as the dominant target focus (if appropriate) then over a short 'cycle' of outcomes, say less than 20, then a short cycle dominant pattern may be revealed.

    So I take it after say 6 or 7 outcomes in one line of selected spins ( say under the category Doz 1, then Col 2) the short cycle dominant in that line may be revealed, soon enough to enable a short gain of say up to +5 units.

    By doing this you are forming a selection of a game ( or pattern) within game.

    As far as I see it, this has some valid use in short cycles if the player is looking to simply gain +3 to +5 units, maybe more.

    Every once in a while I let go with a big deal method. If you have noticed over the years I like to do that in obscure locations, in other people's threads, where my method coincides with something someone has said. This is one of those moments.

    Perhaps you may have read that I mentioned three triggers for my dozen sets type bets? I discovered something from statistics. There are an equal amount of singles as there are an amount for sleeping dozens. There are half as many series as these other two phenomenon. So what does that mean to bet selections or triggers? In the short term, it is more likely that a single or a sleeper will occur than that a series will occur. I have spent the past 6 weeks researching this with telemetry based practice betting. I can confirm excellent results. For short term, low expectation positive results this knowledge is useful. That still means placing 24 - 26 numbers per bet, but, now I'm considering adding the combo of a dominating EC as a collision bet. I hope this isn't that illusive holy grail and I just wrecked everything. So far, research like this thread and others like it have not blown the lid off of gambling, yet that is.


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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #53 on: December 30, 2015, 08:07:55 pm »
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  • Right. I had a good feeling when I launched this particular oddball thread on the Swiss Dreams.

    Five years ago I was so into it I used to watch all the Travel Channel docos on Swiss Railways. That perhaps illustrates a lot about my personality. I think I still sort of believe in Santa Claus, certainly in the Santa Claus Rally on the financial markets anyway that have a 70% reliability. I also celebrate a BirthDay Week and am inclined to believe everyday can be Christmas Day - and not just superficially.

    So in the spirit of the notion that anything is possible, that Walt Disney really did have some great concepts, that if something appears too good to be true, that it actually can be true***, in other words a reversal of the world's cynical rationalisations, this thread encourages big ideas and bold leaps.

    Thanks to RLogic, Carlitos and now especially Gizmotron for contributing to this group of ideas, and of course to some of the original researchers all mentioned here. Sincere thanks to all.

    Here is an extract from the thread by 6thSense dated July 14 2013 and to be found in the Blog Section on this Forum. Cogs etc...

    "You can have 36 alternating RBRBRB.... you cannot have 36 numbers alternating on all EC's simultaneously.

    R/B + E/O   there are only 20 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate RO/BE/RO/BE

    R/B + H/L   there are only 18 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate RL/BH/RL/BH

    E/O + H/L   there are only 10 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate OL/EH/OL/EH

    ' The pigeon holes are filled. Something has to happen; either a number has to repeat or an EC has to streak.'


    Acknowledgements also to the work of Nickmsi.

    *** I work with professional investors who celebrate this maxim




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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #54 on: December 30, 2015, 08:59:30 pm »
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  • ...well Gizmotron, iam happy that the information will help you out somehow..... :thumbsup:



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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #55 on: December 31, 2015, 05:35:56 am »
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  • Thanks Gizmotron

    I do not think you could have been clearer in your chosen words, or in the context about which you have provided research data. Over the next few days we will explore this and I suspect a fine start to 2016.
    Kind Regards
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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #56 on: December 31, 2015, 08:19:33 am »
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  • I was reminded in a dream last night to mention the following important but easily misunderstood principle. It was postulated by Simon, and is a principle that may or may not have universal application.

    Find a bet that continually loses, ie a loss bet, then reverse it, and in the special conditions within a roulette context, then you may have a consistent winning bet.

    My 'loss bet' earlier referred to which I will share in a week or two, is one such example.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #57 on: December 31, 2015, 04:33:02 pm »
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  • ...well Gizmotron, iam happy that the information will help you out somehow..... :thumbsup:

    Carlitos  8)

    It's why I keep coming back to this forum, There's always another way of seeing things, and that often leads to other ideas not previously considered. After all, open discussion led to the Atom-Bomb.
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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #58 on: December 31, 2015, 04:58:03 pm »
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    It's why I keep coming back to this forum, There's always another way of seeing things, and that often leads to other ideas not previously considered. 


    ...and that's is exactly the purpose of these forums..... and nothing else.....



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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #59 on: December 31, 2015, 10:05:40 pm »
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  • Find a bet that continually loses, ie a loss bet, then reverse it, and in the special conditions within a roulette context, then you may have a consistent winning bet.

    My 'loss bet' earlier referred to which I will share in a week or two, is one such example.

    Thanks, I will bear that in mind for future testing.