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[TwisterUK]

Suck it up...move on....take the hit and come back fighting another day. We've had 6 total losses in Speramus but grinding out units has let me increase our BR by over 30% in 3 weeks 

I did 

Well done on  your 30% increase sNubby ! 

[JohnLegend]

Yup had me first Loss 


42 Games Played 41 Games Won

Twister you are pretty hard on yourself when it comes to wins and losses. I picked up on that a while back. Let me tell you 41/1 is superb. And even if it fans down to 12/1. At the end of the day I always say.

A profit is a profit. We are doing what we arent supposed to be doing. We catch the heat from the maths squad who maintain we are on borrowed time. And we are due to give it all back soon. That's where they make their big mistake. Randoms taking a portion of the profit back.

Once in a while. But its never going to have it all back. Not with a method like PB. Its TOO CONSISTENT.....

[AMK]

Any updates on your PB Baccarat play Twister?


I also really like the idea of playing PB 4 DL on Baccarat but do not know if it is possible.

[esoito]

AMK:

Twister is having connection problems.

I'm sure he'll answer you when he's back online -- could be a while, though...

[JohnLegend]

AMK:

Twister is having connection problems.

I'm sure he'll answer you when he's back online -- could be a while, though...

Thanks for letting us know Esoito, its been a while since I saw his presence on here. I was wondering why.

[ADulay]

don't understand all the rules for Bacarrat as in, big road, big eye boy, small road and cockroach, but know the basics !

Do you wait for a shuffle before you start or do you just dive in whenever ...

Sorry for coming into this thread a bit late but .. . . . .

The terms Big Eye, Small Road, cockroach, etc are merely terms to describe certain patterns that most Asian players seem to really dwell on.  Nothing mystic here nor even part of the game, it's merely symbolism to describe a pattern.

At the table, as well as online, you can jump into a current shoe at any time.  No need to wait for a new shoe unless you prefer to play that way.

Myself?  When I play online (live dealer only, of course) I can see what the tote board is doing as it presents the previously played hands.  If it looks like a shoe that I can work with, I'll jump in.   If the shoe is showing nothing that I like, I can go back to watching Star Trek and finish off paying bills and things like that.

AD

[Alan]

Is anyone still doing this system in baccarat? are there any results on a big sample of shoes or actual play?

[ADulay]

All,

  I've noticed in this particular thread that there is a lot of confusion about the game as it is played.

  Some find the "rules" confusing, others don't really understand how the wins are computed and a few more are confused as to why people bet on different sides.

  First off, the Banker hand has nothing to do with the Bank (or casino).  The Player hand has nothing to do with the player (that would be you).   The ruling powers could have just as easily named them "Frick and Frack", "Tom and Jerry", "A and B", "Red and Blue" or just about anything else describing two events.  It just so happens that Player and Banker are the terms and this is derived from another version of the game where you actually CAN be the true Banker of the game against everyone.  But that is not important here.

  Most people state that to win you have to be "closest to nine" to win.  Well, that's true, but it's not the way baccarat players look at it.  The winner is the hand with the highest total and it just so happens that this makes it closer to nine than the other (losing) hand.  The reason the "nine" pops in there is because "nine" is a natural hand and wins automatically (unless tied with a nine in the other hand).   So, for the time being, just think of it as "highest hand wins" and you'll be all set.

  On the drawing rules.   This is what generally throws most people off of the game.   They say its too complicated.  I can remember who gets the draw card.  I can't remember the 667 rule.   I can't remember the 83 rule.  Yada, yada, yada.

  Hey, deal with it.   You play the game (or at least practice it at home) for two days and I guarantee you'll know the arcane drawing rules forwards and backwards.   Of course for those two days it helps to have a printed cheat sheet sitting next to you so you actually do know when to draw and when not to (during practice when you're actually dealing out cards).

  Once you learn those rules, they'll be in your head for a long time.  I seen several dealers draw cards when they weren't supposed to and usually only one or two players will catch it and call it.  ESPECIALLY if the incorrectly drawn card results in a losing hand for them!   If it gives you the win, keep quiet!!

   There's no need to type out the rules.  Just Google "Baccarat Rules" in the images area and about 2000 pictures will come up that you can print out and read along as you deal cards to yourself.

   Which side to bet on?   Take your pick.  The drawing rules favor the Banker hand and most people seem to gravitate to the Banker hand because they heard somewhere that Banker always wins  more hands.   Well, it's kind of true but a good way to get your bankroll handed over to the casino if you chase that way.

  If your roulette game is based on EC, baccarat is made for you and there's no Zero involved.  Ties are returned so there is always a winner and a loser, short of a tie.  You can never have both sides lose!

   If you don't believe that a lot of Players can show up in a shoe, how about this one that was recently played?   My online (live dealt hands) casino pushed this one out and I was lucky enough to be there when it happened.   The circles are the hand result.  See how your EC system would do on it.  I wandered on into the shoe around hand 9 and starting playing at hand 14.  This was a very unusual shoe in that there were only 3 small runs on Banker with two of them being twos!

  Hopefully we can get a few more people interested in the game.  I pretty much gave up serious roulette probably 5 or more years ago.  The vig on the American roulette wheel was just too much to overcome, at least for me.

  AD

[Sputnik]

http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/

Here i find drawing rules chart ,,, when to stand and when to get one more hand ,,, same as basic strategy for blackjack ...
Also with program to play baccarat for fun, good for practice.

This is from wizard of odds site.

[NathanDetroit]

http://wizardofodds.com/play/baccarat/new/



ND.



Who is John Galt ?

[ADulay]

Who is John Galt ?

I know.   

AD

[NathanDetroit]

AD

^^^^^  High 5

ND





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Who is John Galt ?

[Alan]

has anyone tried this at a casino?