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Title: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:18:32 PM
Idea, preliminary phase. A 50/50 game, based on "luck"

I like the challenge


It is flat betting. it is a 12 wide "matrix"

I tested 4 cards that Adulay has uploaded here to this site with success.


Card 1 - broken even
Card 2- +2 units
Card 3- +4 units
Card 4- +6 units

What we do: write the decisions as they show from left to right in rows of 12.
Then when you get to the next row bet the opposite of above. It is slow, but breaking even to winning a few units per shoe with no progression seems appealing to me.

Example:

(https://betselection.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Fh22sm0zh7%2FBaccarat.png&hash=1e140e9d4e18f50a682ca7a716d1200c8cfa4774)

The wins are green the losses are red

More testing required. This is in preliminary phase.

maybe gr8 progression?
11111
22222
33333
44444
55555

Test with me :)
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:50:23 PM
I don't know how you guys play here

you guys don't really share your "strategies"

but if you flat bet this is as good as any other id presume
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 28, 2016, 11:53:32 PM
I'm just asking you: is there a particular reason to split the outcomes in rows of 12?

as.
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 28, 2016, 11:59:44 PM
Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet

Ok.

Have you noticed the vertical outcomes registered below each of the twelve letters?

as.
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on January 28, 2016, 11:59:44 PM
Ok.

Have you noticed the vertical outcomes registered below each of the twelve letters?

as.

elaborate

Rich
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: soxfan on January 29, 2016, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet

Betting flat don't feed the bulldog, hey hey!
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:07:24 AM
will test this more

if i can flat bet $25 green chips and win a few units an hour im a happy guy

also, time will tell if a progression is safe with this 12 wide scheme. betting a progression on B only, for example you will lose big, but 12 decisions back may be another story
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 29, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
elaborate

Rich

Think about 12 different players each placed below the 12 letters.
So after your 36 resolved bets (ties ignored) each player got three BP results.

Let's say every player wants to win 3 hands in a row or NOT losing three hands in a row with no particular strategy other than choosing at the start the same side of betting.

as.     


Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:39:55 AM
im not the best at pulling things apart, just say what you are trying to say

(its me not you)

Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
what i like about this 12 wide scheme and betting against above is that i don't see losing large sums of money
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:53:07 AM
4 different cards of decisions

all flat bet

none ended in negative balance, either broken even or in the PLUS

further investigation NEEDED
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 29, 2016, 01:54:35 AM
Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
what i like about this 12 wide scheme and betting against above is that i don't see losing large sums of money

Well, I don't want to discourage you, but if you test more shoes you'll see that you won't get any edge by utilizing this BS.
Your losing patterns will show up whenever the 1-13-25.., 2-14-26..., 3-15-27... etc positional hands will be of the same nature (B or P) and sooner or later they will.

Imo you better consider the whole picture even taking into account the use of a short progression.

as.



Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: Garfield on January 29, 2016, 02:00:26 AM
Yeah, why 12 ? I even have an idea to "randomize" the row's amount. I.e first row 12, second row 7, 3rd is 6' then 12 and so on.

Maybe will work better? Dunno

Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 02:04:22 AM
A 50 50 game

Only thing i could think of is a unique way to bet
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: tdx on January 29, 2016, 05:31:07 AM
1. Actually they are 12 columns, not 12 rows.

2. Sounds like a mechanical system...which will ultimately fail

3. How about using only 3 or 5 columns and use the same technique of betting opposite of last decision and then looking for a pattern of the  wins lor losses in each column - (such as betting for a win if the column show 3 wins in a row or betting a chop of the wins and losses of the column such as if the column shows a win, loss win, loss, then bet for a win)     .......of course patterns appear and disappear, and like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder,  but that is what makes bac challenging.......also using only 3 or 5 columns will give you more decisions, which will give you more decisions for the patterns to develop.

Maybe use a separate bankroll and separate MM for each of the 3 or 5 columns ?

Actually assuming you look for betting for or against the last decision will not make a difference if you are looking for patterns of the wins and losses.....all you are doing is changing a win to a loss and a loss to a win and looking for pattern of the wins and losses to bet for or against.

Everyone playing bac will eventually bet for or against a patterm no matter what semantics they use, they are betting patterns.
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 11:06:07 AM
"Rows of 12" is accurate as is "12 columns"

If i had said "12 rows" that would be innacurate
Title: Re: 12 Wide matrix
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 11:35:33 AM
Saying mechanical system makes it sound bad

In reality its flat betting a 50 50 chance