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12 Wide matrix

Started by RouletteGhost, January 28, 2016, 11:18:32 PM

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RouletteGhost

Idea, preliminary phase. A 50/50 game, based on "luck"

I like the challenge


It is flat betting. it is a 12 wide "matrix"

I tested 4 cards that Adulay has uploaded here to this site with success.


Card 1 - broken even
Card 2- +2 units
Card 3- +4 units
Card 4- +6 units

What we do: write the decisions as they show from left to right in rows of 12.
Then when you get to the next row bet the opposite of above. It is slow, but breaking even to winning a few units per shoe with no progression seems appealing to me.

Example:



The wins are green the losses are red

More testing required. This is in preliminary phase.

maybe gr8 progression?
11111
22222
33333
44444
55555

Test with me :)
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

RouletteGhost

I don't know how you guys play here

you guys don't really share your "strategies"

but if you flat bet this is as good as any other id presume
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

AsymBacGuy

I'm just asking you: is there a particular reason to split the outcomes in rows of 12?

as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

RouletteGhost

no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

AsymBacGuy

Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet

Ok.

Have you noticed the vertical outcomes registered below each of the twelve letters?

as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

RouletteGhost

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on January 28, 2016, 11:59:44 PM
Ok.

Have you noticed the vertical outcomes registered below each of the twelve letters?

as.

elaborate

Rich
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

soxfan

Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 28, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
no, lol.

just trying to find a clever way to flat bet

Betting flat don't feed the bulldog, hey hey!

RouletteGhost

will test this more

if i can flat bet $25 green chips and win a few units an hour im a happy guy

also, time will tell if a progression is safe with this 12 wide scheme. betting a progression on B only, for example you will lose big, but 12 decisions back may be another story
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

AsymBacGuy

Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
elaborate

Rich

Think about 12 different players each placed below the 12 letters.
So after your 36 resolved bets (ties ignored) each player got three BP results.

Let's say every player wants to win 3 hands in a row or NOT losing three hands in a row with no particular strategy other than choosing at the start the same side of betting.

as.     


Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

RouletteGhost

im not the best at pulling things apart, just say what you are trying to say

(its me not you)

QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

RouletteGhost

what i like about this 12 wide scheme and betting against above is that i don't see losing large sums of money
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

RouletteGhost

4 different cards of decisions

all flat bet

none ended in negative balance, either broken even or in the PLUS

further investigation NEEDED
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

AsymBacGuy

Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 29, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
what i like about this 12 wide scheme and betting against above is that i don't see losing large sums of money

Well, I don't want to discourage you, but if you test more shoes you'll see that you won't get any edge by utilizing this BS.
Your losing patterns will show up whenever the 1-13-25.., 2-14-26..., 3-15-27... etc positional hands will be of the same nature (B or P) and sooner or later they will.

Imo you better consider the whole picture even taking into account the use of a short progression.

as.



Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

Garfield

Yeah, why 12 ? I even have an idea to "randomize" the row's amount. I.e first row 12, second row 7, 3rd is 6' then 12 and so on.

Maybe will work better? Dunno

You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

RouletteGhost

A 50 50 game

Only thing i could think of is a unique way to bet
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.