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Title: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: marinetech on May 05, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
28 banks in a row. Unreal. Never seen such a thing...........
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on May 05, 2016, 12:12:30 PM
That's hot!  And most likely if it wasn't Vegas or AC, I would venture to say most lost money wagering for that cut???

But, I have seen plenty into the teens, 14 to 18 times both sides.  Last week, had a 14 streak player followed by a single bank and then a single player, then 11 Banker run with numerous ties, I think 4.  Seen a hand full 20-24 for both sides and never 25 or over.  Doesn't happen much that's for sure.

Old school is generally wager on the same side until it falls off and lose only the last wager.  Personally, since probably around 2000 or so, especially with the intro of the Midi/Macau style tables, the 'cut' wager is the 'dream of choice' for most. 
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: Carlitos on May 05, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
...in Online or Offline casino.....?? ???




Carlitos  8)
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on May 05, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Didn't even think of that, online or a B&M?  I got involved with some powers to be some years ago up in NYC that were running some on-line Caribbean based 'casinos'.  Not a pretty picture for the player.  I have no (NONE) experience with those and probably would never ever play on-line.  If you trust someone or something you really have no 100% idea what they are doing, god bless you.  I took it the OP was referring to a B & M but I might be wrong of course.
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on May 05, 2016, 04:39:49 PM
Hope you played it well!  Heard of 20's + from other players and seen/ played 19 and 19.  Many, many many mid teens some opposite and then rip again 10+.  I have others that are extremely rare that I won't disclose, but are dealer and staff verified.  Between this and high payout and everything else,  you have to believe.

I see insane _hit all the time.  GRIP IT AND RIP IT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMyZ929lpY
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: marinetech on May 05, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
live b&m
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on May 05, 2016, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: marinetech on May 05, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
live b&m

Everyone make good money on it or what??
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: Garfield on May 05, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
Quote from: alrelax on May 05, 2016, 08:10:08 PM
Everyone make good money on it or what??

Now that's an interesting question. I believe some gain and some lost. LoL.

I wish I played that shoe.
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: MarkTeruya on May 07, 2016, 02:46:28 PM
Quote from: marinetech on May 05, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
28 banks in a row. Unreal. Never seen such a thing...........
Holy S***  that would be worth an extra 50k free bonus in those casinos operating such schemes.  Any TIES in that run?
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on May 07, 2016, 05:11:31 PM
We taught the power of a long Bank/ Player Dragon to a player last night.  The whole table was riding and fortunately he started to listen and also placed high payout with...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0poDIyPEl0
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 05:42:20 PM
Post up your strategies.  I say that if you are there early on and haven't yet, sometime between 7-10 in a row, you have to take a flyer and bet big.  Considering how many bets turn absolute south in a given session, it's worth it.

For example, let's say your typical bet is $100.  Have you ever lost two in a row?   Would you really be set back so much with a $200 flyer?  Also, that one bet is the one risk that can get you going.  It is very easy to look for chop points all along the way and miss half ore more of these with any size.
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on September 28, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
There is no strategy, really.  If you win the first one or two, just let your wager ride after the first couple/few and continually pull down your winnings.  You only lose the last one when it eventually falls off to the other side. 

Personally, if I am on a side and it is strong, I press up one or two wins and leave it, pull down each win and sacrifice the last one. 
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 06:02:09 PM
- Let it ride flat betting the same amount.
- Keep doubling or close to it and choose cash in points along the way.
- Double the bet for a certain number of hands and then flat.

For example:

Hand #  Bet          Win       Cum. Win    Lose This Hand Net P&L
1           $100       $100     $100            ($100)
2           $200       $200     $300            ($100)
3           $400       $400     $700            ($100)
4           $800       $800     $1,500         ($100)
5           $1,000 (Because it's a nice number) $1,000  $2,500  $400
6           $1,000    $1,000  $3,500        $1,500
7           $1,000    $1,000  $4,500        $2,500



Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on September 28, 2016, 06:07:42 PM
And....the highest majority of all players (at least in the USA) would give right back all their winnings, their bankrolls and continue on to the ATM's/Check Cashing for additional funds until they depleted those also with losses----right after that run stopped and they continued to play for several hours.

Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: alrelax on September 28, 2016, 06:07:42 PM
And....the highest majority of all players (at least in the USA) would give right back all their winnings, their bankrolls and continue on to the ATM's/Check Cashing for additional funds until they depleted those also with losses----right after that run stopped and they continued to play for several hours.

That's where prepared play comes in.  I screwed a long series recently and went from ok in the black through zero into substantial red recently.  Maybe I need to go to NFL Offense/ Quarterback analogy for myself:

Brett Morton's Money Management - Baccarat Edition
http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/brett-money-management-baccarat-edition/


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Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on September 28, 2016, 06:30:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RBNCFlJ_2M
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on September 28, 2016, 06:32:48 PM
Quote from: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 06:21:23 PM
That's where prepared play comes in.


My 1/3rd MM works just fine and never ever let's me down, that other stuff is clustered with needless garbage details.
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 11:00:14 PM
I have reviewed several of your 1/3 MM posts and there is no clear defined trailing stop point. 

Let's say you start with $1,000 and win $1,200.  Divided by 3 that is $400 cashed out, $400 added to your $1,000 bank roll = $1,400, and $400 in a reserve bank roll.   Next you start losing.  Where is your trailing stop?
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: alrelax on September 29, 2016, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: 21 Aces on September 28, 2016, 11:00:14 PM
I have reviewed several of your 1/3 MM posts and there is no clear defined trailing stop point. 

Let's say you start with $1,000 and win $1,200.  Divided by 3 that is $400 cashed out, $400 added to your $1,000 bank roll = $1,400, and $400 in a reserve bank roll.   Next you start losing.  Where is your trailing stop?

You set your own!  We are all fully grown, big boys, no?  A person is more apt to listen and obey his self rather than some stranger selling a book or a method, etc.

Anyway, seriously, set what you are comfortable with and adhere to it. 

Say you bought in for $1k bank roll.  You got up $1k, you can pool it together and call it $2k bankroll.  Take $650.00 and lock it up no matter what.  Take another $650.00 and put it for reserve and buying in a second time if you wish.  And play with the $700.00 as your primary bankroll. 

Or, another example.  Say you bought in with $1k bankroll.  You won $1,400.00.  Play with a $800.00 bank roll, lock up $800.00 and keep $800.00 for a reserve bank roll.  If you lose your bankroll, think real hard if you want to continue, then use you reserve bankroll you put away, just in case that happened.  Your stop point would be if you lost your primary bankroll, but since we are so hard headed and so convinced we can recoup----that is my whole point and reasoning about the second bank roll.  True, if you get wiped out right away, you are not whole, but with other MM techniques like you mention they really seldom work because your reasoning is, well I can win it back again so I will risk it. 

The other night I was at the casino, bought in for $2,500.00.  I got up a quick $2k plus.  I set aside a small bankroll for my side parlay wagering thing I always do.  I had right at $2k win money left.  I increased my original bankroll to $2,700.00.  I locked up $700.00 and kept $600.00 for a reserve bankroll.  I got up once again a smaller amount and did the 1/3rd thing once again.  I had a bit over $1,200.00 locked up and I had $1,000.00 as a reserve bank roll even.  I increased my primary bankroll to $3,500.00.  I got confident.  I played aggressive and although I went up more, I wound up going down to $2, 000.00 and then I quit.  I really wanted to play more and normally I would, but things got real ugly and most of the players left, so did I. 
Title: Re: 28 banks in a row 5/4
Post by: 21 Aces on September 29, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
Thank you for ^This.  I now got it.

Brett Morton's Money Management - Baccarat Edition does have trailing stops the go from Loss Limit on up as you win.