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Title: After too many years
Post by: titantts on July 20, 2019, 12:54:09 AM
still no one beat The Baccarat???
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: AsymBacGuy on July 20, 2019, 02:17:38 AM
Quote from: titantts on July 20, 2019, 12:54:09 AM
still no one beat The Baccarat???

Actually almost every poster on the net beats the game consistently.
But they do not want to divulge "how".

as.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: titantts on July 20, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
Thank you for that info; myself got beating up almost died ....(stop playing now hoping some day come back stronger smarter)
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: alrelax on July 20, 2019, 09:05:39 PM
https://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/how-you-lose-why-you-lose-(1-of-10-in-a-series)/
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: 8OR9 on July 21, 2019, 12:36:05 AM
As has been said many times before, anyone can beat roulette, baccarat or Sic Bo or blackjack or craps in the long run........you just need a very large bankroll and a very conservative money management plan to handle the eventual large downswings in you bankroll.

As a simple example, assume the most you will lose flat betting in a shoe is 8 units, and your profit objective for a shoe is 5 units, then you can use a money management plan  of:

11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111 (  you lose all 40 bets )

22222 22222 22222 22222 ( you win all 20 bets  )

You lost 40 units ( in 5 shoes or a net loss of 40 units over many shoes flat betting 1 unit a bet)  so then bet  2 units a bet . winning 10 units a shoe over 4 shoes = 40 units so now you are even ) less banker commission)

You lost 40 bets and won 20 bets so you won 20/60 bets so you broke even only winning 33 % of your bets.

This is of course a very simple example, but you get the general idea.

Of course if you bet using  an aggressive negative progression , then you need a very,  very, very large bankroll to handle the very, very, very  large down swings.

Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: Lungyeh on July 21, 2019, 07:10:20 AM
I think going by the postings in this forum, there are probably a few long term winners. I venture to guess Alrelax, Asymbacguy, Soxfax, Adulay, Jimske although they may not have openly proclaimed as such.

As in the Bible, there is no open declaration that Jesus is son of God but the miracles he performs leave no room for doubt.

Or at least net winners up to now.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: alrelax on July 21, 2019, 05:48:12 PM
"Beating" the game of bac or "Beating" any other game within the casino is a term extremely subjective to each of us. 

Many will use the term "Beating" as the holy-grail or convincing themselves or anyone else, that whatever it is they are preaching or describing will definitively allow them to win each and every time or nearly something similar to that. 

Of course, others use the term "Beating" to describe control and a method that allows themselves to profit within the realm of their findings, etc. 

Then what happens is the internet mathematicians, scientists, engineers and drama queens will twist and turn most if not all of the explanations into fuel for their daily fire boasting their own circle for degradation and banter among their like internet family of friends, etc., etc. 

Back to the Barnes & Noble theory I have detailed out many times.  Not one bit of difference. 

 
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: titantts on November 17, 2019, 11:31:40 PM
      After 5 months; Never go back to Casino, Now I am just playing Baccarat online for fun, but I keep winning??? ( from free money to 1 billion dollars); maybe It is time for me to try it again.any suggestion guys?
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: alrelax on December 15, 2019, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: titantts on November 17, 2019, 11:31:40 PM
      After 5 months; Never go back to Casino, Now I am just playing Baccarat online for fun, but I keep winning??? ( from free money to 1 billion dollars); maybe It is time for me to try it again.any suggestion guys?

Just so you know and a lot of people do know, is that the free online Baccarat test modules or games as some call them will tend to favor the player or the person that's trying it out to entice you to put up your real money.   

Because they allow you to win the majority of your bets. I have discussed with no less than 2 website managers and they have admitted to me that their test modules for Test games do favor the player rather than the casino, but that's only for the free money play module. When you go into putting up your money it's a whole other story.

Be careful!!
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2019, 04:38:24 AM
It is very tough to beat baccarat. playing all over but not impossible. Actually, playing all over get you horrible spans like 69/200 and so on where any bet of yours could bite dust, irrespective of how you bet it. Winning flat bet is impossible in the long run. Knowledge of handling extreme variance with least damage and an ultrawise money management can you make a winner in the long run. You need to have as much patience to win as casinos have or even more. Remember, casino expects 100 bets of a player to yield 1 unit for casino even with built in house edge it has.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 01, 2020, 05:37:18 PM
Quote from: Albalaha on December 30, 2019, 04:38:24 AM
You need to have as much patience to win as casinos have or even more. Remember, casino expects 100 bets of a player to yield 1 unit for casino even with built in house edge it has.

100% true.

Anyway , winning by a flat betting strategy is 1 billion % possible.
Of course very few situations offer such possibility.

as. 
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: Albalaha on January 02, 2020, 07:33:02 AM
QuoteAnyway , winning by a flat betting strategy is 1 billion % possible.
Of course very few situations offer such possibility.

Unfortunately, I do not agree to this. This is just like saying that 1+1 isn't 2. There are ways to surpass momentary variance but even then house advantage doesn't let us win flat. I have simulated enough to conclude that.
If you can "spot" any such weak points that can give you net win in the long run, that too flat, you nailed the game itself.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: alrelax on January 02, 2020, 07:39:11 AM
People want to beat the game, you are never going to beat the game meaning find some way to consistently win, it's never going to happen. You are going to win and you are going to lose, some people win more than they lose and the majority or lets say the highest majority will lose more than they win and there's many reasons for that. I have written about it extensively, most do not want to believe it or agree with it.

But there are numerous ways to get numerous advantages but if you are looking to beat the game meaning you are going to find some some system or wagering schedule that allows you to consistently win and be able to win as much as you want to win, it is never going to happen. And that is why the games are in the casino or at a carnival or in the social club or in the private basement of someones house for their friends to gather and he plays The Bookie, etc.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: AsymBacGuy on January 02, 2020, 10:36:20 PM
Casinos know very well that baccarat is vulnerable but they aren't bothered at all as long as they make huge profits from it.
For every one acute player there are at least 1000 losing players, so what's the problem?

If a game cannot be beaten scientifically how could be beaten by other approaches?

as.
Title: Re: After too many years
Post by: Albalaha on January 03, 2020, 06:25:41 AM
It could be beaten scientifically or more specifically, mathematically only. Sadly, I see no hope for doing that flat bet. I would love to be proved wrong.