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[Wewin2222]

Baccarat will do 1 of 4 things that can not be debated or denied. I consider a run to be 4 or more so with that said.

Baccarat Can:

1) Run
2) Chop
3) Sequence of Two's
4) Three & Break

[Wewin2222]

The reason I mentioned the above is because it doesn't matter what system, style, or edge you use. If it doesn't include what's chiseled in stone! ie (The Basic Facts) How can you expect to follow a shoe and predict the up coming hands.

People who call this a guessing game simply have not played enough. To them it is a guess but to the skilled and very observant it's a challenge of the mind.

[Wewin2222]

The Million Dollar Question$$$$$

In general when I would Study the Run, Chop, Two's and 3 & Break.

I found out that Chop would happen the most, Then Two's, 3 & Break and then the run. This still holds true for a hand shuffled shoe. However in general it's doesn't hold up as a true fact with the machine shuffle.

Why? My opinion after playing game after game, studying the game, and talking to highly respected people in the industry. The casino can and will manipulate the shuffle.

That's ok because they set themselves up for failure and make the game almost full Proof if your observant enough to find the holes in there mistakes.

I digress, Back to the Million Dollar Question? How strong will 1 of the 4 basic facts be, you may or may not know but the wise thing to do is to always follow it.

[Wewin2222]

Here is a Bag of Gold Knowledge at the end of the Rainbow!!!!!

When you are playing Shoe after Shoe you will notice certain things that happen time after time. We use the Basic 4 Facts that should happen time after time.

1) Your thought process should always be what is happening and how strong is it.
2) What is not happening, or is barely happening which usually happens and how weak is it.

You can find some very strong wagers based on this thought process.

[Chef]

Hello Wewin2222,

Thank you for your good post.

But I still believe, the outcome will always be 50/50 minus the house advantage.

When to enter and when to stop depend on the risk each individual is willing to take.

Anyway, I still find baccarat a hard game to crack as far as I am concern.

I am still learning despite having played the game 6 to 8 hours per day,6 days a week for over 10 years now.

Regards

chef

[Wewin2222]

Chef, It's great to here that we have some players with real experience on here playing day in and day out. I like to move around from casino to casino these days, How about you?

Also Chef we should always continue to learn. Although I play day in and day out minus the time I put in to study the game. I am not to proud to learn from someone playing there very first shoe.....

[Wewin2222]

Confession:

To whom it may concern or that may be interested; I have a confession to make. I know what I know about this game we call Baccarat by JESUS CHRIST and Him alone. Through Prayer, Blood, Sweat, and Tears I have learned to be a consistent winner and I thank God for it.

[AsymBacGuy]

The Million Dollar Question$$$$$

In general when I would Study the Run, Chop, Two's and 3 & Break.

I found out that Chop would happen the most, Then Two's, 3 & Break and then the run. This still holds true for a hand shuffled shoe. However in general it's doesn't hold up as a true fact with the machine shuffle.

Why? My opinion after playing game after game, studying the game, and talking to highly respected people in the industry. The casino can and will manipulate the shuffle.

That's ok because they set themselves up for failure and make the game almost full Proof if your observant enough to find the holes in there mistakes.

I digress, Back to the Million Dollar Question? How strong will 1 of the 4 basic facts be, you may or may not know but the wise thing to do is to always follow it.

So are you implying that the game should be easily beatable due to its statistical features and therefore casinos had to manipulate the playing shoes rather than cancelling the game?

What about the high stakes rooms where most money are wagered (and won by casinos) on hand shuffled shoes?

Further, if after your experiments you've found that chops > doubles > 3 and breaks > runs and hence that the game should be easily beatable and that casino's industry knows that, do you think that their best countermeasure is to act in a reverse mood, that is producing shoes where 1<2<3<runs will predominate?

For example, it's mathematically certain that itlr the sequence BBBPB will be more present than the counterpart BBBPP, so their wisest move should be to form shoes producing more BBBPP patterns than BBBPB?

Notice that I'm not 100% certain that shuffle machines will produce the very same outcomes than pc or hand made shoes, but I really wonder if a game considered perfectly unbeatable (besides some side bets) by the most leading gambling experts, suddendly becomes an easy beatable one. Well, bac is the second most profitable game in the world after slots. 
For casinos. 

as. 

     

[Wewin2222]

AsymBacGuy- We all know certain things and some are the same and some different. I know this.....I make money playing Baccarat on a regular bases. If other people do I am happy for them but if they don't I can't help that.

[AsymBacGuy]

AsymBacGuy- We all know certain things and some are the same and some different. I know this.....I make money playing Baccarat on a regular bases. If other people do I am happy for them but if they don't I can't help that.

I've sayed you wrote something good in your deleted post, so don't take my questions as denigrating or whatever.

Still you haven't answered to my questions.

I'll try again.

How (not why) casinos would alter the outcomes by the use of shuffle machines?

I immodestly think to know almost every trend tracking a shoe produces, along with its  average frequency per shoe, per every 10 shoe, per 100 shoes, in the very long run, so I'm just curious to hear from you. I dissected the 70 average decisions per shoe by every angle, I calculated the asymmetricity factor and the average card distribution and hundreds of other features, so I'm not going to be persuaded by reading non specific arguments.   

Thanks!

as.   



 

[Wewin2222]

Fair enough we will talk later.

[Jimske]

AsymBacGuy- We all know certain things and some are the same and some different. I know this.....I make money playing Baccarat on a regular bases. If other people do I am happy for them but if they don't I can't help that.

YOu are not the only person here that has played thousands of shoes for years.  But you are the only guy here who has started to explain a method of play and then abandoned it without explanation.  That makes you just another poser in my book!  So why are you here now?  Just tooting your own horn?

[Jimske]

I've sayed you wrote something good in your deleted post, so don't take my questions as denigrating or whatever.

Still you haven't answered to my questions.

I'll try again.

Look who is calling the kettle black!!!!  Mr. analyzed a million shoes to examine the rare bet cannot even say hjow many rare bets one might witness per x number of decisions or what the WR is on such bets.  Oh right . .. I forgot we got to buy the book - when it comes out.

[Jimske]

So are you implying that the game should be easily beatable due to its statistical features and therefore casinos had to manipulate the playing shoes rather than cancelling the game?

What about the high stakes rooms where most money are wagered (and won by casinos) on hand shuffled shoes?

Further, if after your experiments you've found that chops > doubles > 3 and breaks > runs and hence that the game should be easily beatable and that casino's industry knows that, do you think that their best countermeasure is to act in a reverse mood, that is producing shoes where 1<2<3<runs will predominate?

For example, it's mathematically certain that itlr the sequence BBBPB will be more present than the counterpart BBBPP, so their wisest move should be to form shoes producing more BBBPP patterns than BBBPB?

Notice that I'm not 100% certain that shuffle machines will produce the very same outcomes than pc or hand made shoes, but I really wonder if a game considered perfectly unbeatable (besides some side bets) by the most leading gambling experts, suddendly becomes an easy beatable one. Well, bac is the second most profitable game in the world after slots. 
For casinos. 

as. 

LMAO!  No, I'm not going to criticize you on this!  Exactly right.

[21 Aces]

I think it is possible for casinos to track their P&L real time and bias the shuffles from easy to difficult.  It pays for them to make easy shuffles at times to attract players and make sure they have a good time when their P&L is tracking above forecast, right?

As players do, they know trickier and more difficult sequences vs. easy ones.