I've been playing the partner style betting strategy at the live tables since 2013 and have had great success making $200+ per table or $1000.00 per day utilizing a 20 hand table limit at each table.
Baccarat Partner Betting Demo 1
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Baccarat partner betting strategy demo 1 Using the following positive betting progression: 25, 50, 75, 50, 75, 100 Compliment the other side with a $25 after TWO wins or more.
Baccarat Partner Betting strategy Demo 2
Buyin $500 each
Betting progression
25, 50, 75, 50, 75, 100
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Demo 2
UPDATE:
More demo's added on my youtube channel
Demo 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7j78A0Wr00
Demo 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJk4y5Mcwb0
Demo 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHvpCUhmXI
Demo 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm6ax07kIWw
Demo 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eriYYFkJp9U
I've seen you do this in the past on YouTube
How exactly does it work though?
Do you need to partner bet when all you are doing is betting for a streak?
you can play both sides from one spot on the table as a single player but your "comp" rating will be next to worthless if you play two spots with two people, your rating will be comped at $1500.00/hr for each.
The partner style betting relies on vertical trends and repeating outcomes.
Making a profit from this style of play is very easy to do if you set your goal $150-$200 per table. Also I've given up on the longer streaks betting to win $500-$1000 per table. I find with the time invested it's more profitable to play the 20 hand limit and move on to the next shoe.
I totally get it
But the idea is to catch a streak
So isn't it the same as just betting on previous outcome for a streak?
I'm just tying to understand the benefit of partners
Watch each of the videos for a better understanding.
You may think it's the same, but it's not because you're automatically hedging into the streak thus "passing the buck at the same time"
You can compare by simply playing the sessions both ways and see what works best for you. Personally, the Partner style betting will outlast any form of single play strategies including "Flat-Betting"
As long as you remember to replenish your bankroll on both sides and impose the 20 hand limit or $150-$200 goal per table, you can never lose.
i've also met up with a few members from other forums at the tables and it did not take long for them to catch on to this style of play.
I have seen a chop that was 16 hands long........as many of the posters on the forum have also seen.......which will kill this method.
Also most shoes are garbage shoes, with most streaks ending in 2 , 3 or 4 in a row...........which will also give you a big loss using this method.
Looks like you need a few shoes with a long streak ( 8 or 9 bankers or players in a row) which will give you a good profit and overcome your many losing shoes.
As in most forms of gambling, you can produce a profit if your bankroll can handle the inevitable large drawdowns .....just like starting your own business, most businesses fail because they are not sufficiently capitalized ( bankrolled ) to withstand the initial start up costs and lack of brand recognition, and the inevitable downturns in the business cycle.
I appreciate your comments but I've proved this strategy since 2013 to be very successful and profitable.
I don't need to prove it further.
It's 2018 now and i'm still in profit.
Choppy tables will never kill my strategy. (20 hand limit keeps me in profit even at losing tables with minimal profits/loss)
I only need a simple run of 6 or even just a couple runs of 3 or 4 to make a successful profit at 65% of the tables.
I still walk away from 35% of the tables with profit or minimal losses.
$150 to $200 is a very easy goal to accomplish at 65% of the tables.
I play approx 5 to 15 shoes daily. I see it all from runs of 10 to 15 bankers or players in a row to chops of 10-20 in a row to Double chops of 10 or more in a row. There is no shoe I have not played that surprises me with random events.
None of them scare me. I am in profit so I pay them with their own money when they happen. I can play this strategy another 5 years from now and still be in profit making $500 to $5000 per visit and in 5 years from now, many of you will still argue those 35% of the "Choppy" tables.
I do not wish to convince you to play my strategy and dump yours. I'm just sharing a successful strategy "Free of charge" to those interested.
Here are a couple more demos Take notice that I'm still in profit even after walking away from losing tables utilizing the 20 hand limit.
Demo 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4YmsrWwcc
Demo 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcO-kfVTUwc
Quote from: 8OR9 on June 02, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
I have seen a chop that was 16 hands long........as many of the posters on the forum have also seen.......which will kill this method.
(I have seen longer chops, but it is not a frequent--everyday or every other shoe thing. Yes, there most certainly are strong shoes and weak shoes both in certain sections only of the shoe or the entire shoe itself. As well, there could be 2 or 3 or 4 shoes very redundant of each other consecutively or not.)
Also most shoes are garbage shoes, with most streaks ending in 2 , 3 or 4 in a row...........which will also give you a big loss using this method. (In some ways yes and some ways no. Problem is, we see and we remember with the FAILURE to 'rest and refresh' as I have stated over and over again as being my most valuable key in wagering and playing, 'resetting and refreshing', not re charting, wiping you mind clean and having no memory to a certain point where you are influenced because you won 'so and so' because of 'such and such' l shoe or yesterday or last week. That is the exact reason you are given scorecards, pens and electronic scoreboards at the casino's expense!!!!)
Looks like you need a few shoes with a long streak ( 8 or 9 bankers or players in a row) which will give you a good profit and overcome your many losing shoes.
(It is that same exact way, 'you have to make up', etc., if you use any system or set triggers without following the shoe, the shoe has to produce what you want instead of you following and matching the shoe, to myself--that is a huge constant disadvantage in attempting to get the shoe to produce what I want.)
As in most forms of gambling, you can produce a profit if your bankroll can handle the inevitable large drawdowns .....just like starting your own business, most businesses fail because they are not sufficiently capitalized ( bankrolled ) to withstand the initial start up costs and lack of brand recognition, and the inevitable downturns in the business cycle.
(Exactly! And so true in huge vision about the bankrolling of business, no different. I had an interstate based gas station (major brand) with a full service 24/7 tractor trailer garage, wrecker service, road service and haz-mat spill clean up business. I expanded it from a basic gas station (old style) and a basic large oil field warehouse to what I said above. I added 9 trucks, flatbeds, med duty tow trucks and heavy duty wrecker units. A box truck for heavy rigging and supplies. 2 Road service units for tractor trailer tires and road service on the interstate and in the oil fields. A complete haz-mat set-up with 3 trucks, skid loader, dump truck, excavator, roll offs, pump units, supplies, etc. A full tire shop for all trucks and cars. Lots more. When it was busy it was busy. When it was slow, I cringed! Lucky I had a banker that knew me, lived one block away in a smaller town, president of a 25 branch large state bank. Funny how employees (I had 7 full time and 3 part time, myself, my female companion partner, her mom, my elderay mom out of state, etc., all need food, housing, clothing, bills, medical conces and they relay on the owner of the business to have that cash every single paycheck period. Then the taxes, not only what we take out of you paychecks, we also match almost that much out opf our pockets. Then the taxes and insurance and real estate taxes, city and county and state fees, brand franchise fees, snap on tool truck payments, advertising fees, maintenance on property and all the trucks and equipment, etc. Everyone wants every payment every week or month. Miss one, no problem, call up and explain and ask for extension. Miss two, miss three, start missing four, things cancelled, no reinstatemen's, you are done in most cases. Vendors cut ou off and no more, maybe COD, cash no checks before the driver drops the goods, etc., etc. Lucky I had that banker. I had loads of work, tons of it. But problem is, Penske, U Haul, SWIFT, Schnedier, CRST, US Express, CR England, etc, the largest trucking companies in the nation with tens of thousands of trucks--they take time to pay and unless you bust their chops to get instant payment at the end of the day, it is 30-60-90-120 or 150 days most times. Work a big truck wreck. Yeah, the bill is $50,000.00 to $75,000.00. We have the semi unit. It takes weeks for the adjusters to come, the truck adjuster, then the cargo claims adjuster, then the environmental adjuster, etc. It takes 3 to 5 insurance companies with at least that many adjusters. It takes 20 to 40 days if everything goes quickly. BUT, we have to still pay our employees every 7 days, our fuel bills every 3 days, our insurance and expenses, disposal fees at the landfill or other specialized disposal facilities we use to get rid of the haz waste cargo or contaminated soil, etc. Lab fees also. The list is long. They do not give a rat's butt about our client not paying us, not their concern. Oh great icy roads, 5 or 6 or 10 truck wrecks. WOW! I have to do every one of them by law, if called by the state police or sheriff. We are a contract rotation wrecker service, cannot pick and choose. Hopefully they are all self insured and large trucking companies and not 'Billy Joe Bob' the independent trucker with insurance that lapsed on a 10 year old truck or he has very limited $25,000.00 max coverages, it happens and happens all the time. Get the picture.
So the Banker, Yeah, I have 2 to 3 million dollars of equipment. A paid house and nearly paid for business 10 acres and multiple buildings on the property. All great. I can walk in and sit at his desk and explain I have $400,000.00 of good solid account receivables all coming here, I bring the authorizations and invoices and give him phone numbers and names to the trucking company's fleet and risk managers if he wants to verify everything. I need $75,000.00 to $125,000.00 to make payroll, pay bills, get inventory, etc. and have $30,000.00 to float for another week or so. No problem, he cuts a check and puts it into my account at his bank within 30 minuets. But the guy that left his job with his life savings of $50,000.00 or so, rents a home or has a mortgage on it. Owns one car and pay payments on another two. Kids in school and one in college. Starts a business needs $15,000.00 to save it because he had some bad payments, bounced checks and money is slow coming in with his $35,000.00 accounts receivables from other small businesses all in the community. He probably needs to find another job because that same banker is not giving him anything, IMO. Not after 2008 anyways.)
Quote from: RouletteGhost on June 02, 2018, 01:08:29 AM
I totally get it
But the idea is to catch a streak
So isn't it the same as just betting on previous outcome for a streak?
I'm just tying to understand the benefit of partners
The whole Idea in Baccarat is in fact to catch runs/trends/streaks anything else would just be "pure luck" and "gambling"
Whether you "BET IN BEHIND" or "PARTNER BET" or even "FLAT BET" it all boils down to streaks and repeating outcomes i order to profit from the game.
Here are a couple more demos
Demo 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekccXK-uIs
Demo 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfTNvusGGQc
I just can't wrap my head around how itnis any different then just betting for a streak to continue and increasing units on each win
Watch the video's completely to learn about how this strategy works. If you just assume it's what you're thinking it is, then it's probably not for you.
Many people just like to respond to certain things without actually trying it. You need to try it to understand. Anyone can compare multiple ways of playing the game, but no one will ever compare to this strategy I describe in my videos.
Here are a couple more demos to assist you. Please take the time to watch each video completely to better understand.
Demo 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY2US1DGtAw
Demo 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfTNvusGGQc
Demo 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekccXK-uIs
"Exactly," if you want to know how important bankroll is to gambling all you got to do is read Glen's response to a post about the need to overcome variance.. :)) Just another opportunity for Glen to talk about himself! :zzz:
But I'd really like to know. Do you have this stuff all written out just waiting for the opportunity to cut and paste OR do you actually sit and write it out?
Quote from: alrelax on June 02, 2018, 01:27:07 PM(Exactly! And so true in huge vision about the bankrolling of business, no different. I had an interstate based gas station (major brand) with a full service 24/7 tractor trailer garage, wrecker service, road service and haz-mat spill clean up business. I expanded it from a basic gas station (old style) and a basic large oil field warehouse to what I said above. I added 9 trucks, flatbeds, med duty tow trucks and heavy duty wrecker units. A box truck for heavy rigging and supplies. 2 Road service units for tractor trailer tires and road service on the interstate and in the oil fields. A complete haz-mat set-up with 3 trucks, skid loader, dump truck, excavator, roll offs, pump units, supplies, etc. A full tire shop for all trucks and cars. Lots more. When it was busy it was busy. When it was slow, I cringed! Lucky I had a banker that knew me, lived one block away in a smaller town, president of a 25 branch large state bank. Funny how employees (I had 7 full time and 3 part time, myself, my female companion partner, her mom, my elderay mom out of state, etc., all need food, housing, clothing, bills, medical conces and they relay on the owner of the business to have that cash every single paycheck period. Then the taxes, not only what we take out of you paychecks, we also match almost that much out opf our pockets. Then the taxes and insurance and real estate taxes, city and county and state fees, brand franchise fees, snap on tool truck payments, advertising fees, maintenance on property and all the trucks and equipment, etc. Everyone wants every payment every week or month. Miss one, no problem, call up and explain and ask for extension. Miss two, miss three, start missing four, things cancelled, no reinstatemen's, you are done in most cases. Vendors cut ou off and no more, maybe COD, cash no checks before the driver drops the goods, etc., etc. Lucky I had that banker. I had loads of work, tons of it. But problem is, Penske, U Haul, SWIFT, Schnedier, CRST, US Express, CR England, etc, the largest trucking companies in the nation with tens of thousands of trucks--they take time to pay and unless you bust their chops to get instant payment at the end of the day, it is 30-60-90-120 or 150 days most times. Work a big truck wreck. Yeah, the bill is $50,000.00 to $75,000.00. We have the semi unit. It takes weeks for the adjusters to come, the truck adjuster, then the cargo claims adjuster, then the environmental adjuster, etc. It takes 3 to 5 insurance companies with at least that many adjusters. It takes 20 to 40 days if everything goes quickly. BUT, we have to still pay our employees every 7 days, our fuel bills every 3 days, our insurance and expenses, disposal fees at the landfill or other specialized disposal facilities we use to get rid of the haz waste cargo or contaminated soil, etc. Lab fees also. The list is long. They do not give a rat's butt about our client not paying us, not their concern. Oh great icy roads, 5 or 6 or 10 truck wrecks. WOW! I have to do every one of them by law, if called by the state police or sheriff. We are a contract rotation wrecker service, cannot pick and choose. Hopefully they are all self insured and large trucking companies and not 'Billy Joe Bob' the independent trucker with insurance that lapsed on a 10 year old truck or he has very limited $25,000.00 max coverages, it happens and happens all the time. Get the picture.
So the Banker, Yeah, I have 2 to 3 million dollars of equipment. A paid house and nearly paid for business 10 acres and multiple buildings on the property. All great. I can walk in and sit at his desk and explain I have $400,000.00 of good solid account receivables all coming here, I bring the authorizations and invoices and give him phone numbers and names to the trucking company's fleet and risk managers if he wants to verify everything. I need $75,000.00 to $125,000.00 to make payroll, pay bills, get inventory, etc. and have $30,000.00 to float for another week or so. No problem, he cuts a check and puts it into my account at his bank within 30 minuets. But the guy that left his job with his life savings of $50,000.00 or so, rents a home or has a mortgage on it. Owns one car and pay payments on another two. Kids in school and one in college. Starts a business needs $15,000.00 to save it because he had some bad payments, bounced checks and money is slow coming in with his $35,000.00 accounts receivables from other small businesses all in the community. He probably needs to find another job because that same banker is not giving him anything, IMO. Not after 2008 anyways.)
Quote from: Jimske on June 04, 2018, 10:44:37 PM
"Exactly," if you want to know how important bankroll is to gambling all you got to do is read Glen's response to a post about the need to overcome variance.. :)) Just another opportunity for Glen to talk about himself! :zzz:
But I'd really like to know. Do you have this stuff all written out just waiting for the opportunity to cut and paste OR do you actually sit and write it out?
You know Jimske, I really do know you are being facetious and 'slick' waiting to twist words around and copy the likes of 21Aces and a couple of others.
But for the sake of being consistent and not ignoring you at this point, I will answer you. It took about 3 min's maybe max--to write that, what's the problem? I type regulatory reports to 3 different states that are between 40 to 80 (+ -) pages that usually takes a couple of hours one day and finish up the next. Other people I know tell me they take several days, most of each day to complete one. If you have a problem with what I write, why do you read it? All you actually have to do is block my name on here and then won't be burdened with anything I write, because obviously it does bother you.
Quote from: alrelax on June 04, 2018, 11:09:47 PM
You know Jimske, I really do know you are being facetious and 'slick' waiting to twist words around and copy the likes of 21Aces and a couple of others.
But for the sake of being consistent and not ignoring you at this point, I will answer you. It took about 3 min's maybe max--to write that, what's the problem? I type regulatory reports to 3 different states that are between 40 to 80 (+ -) pages that usually takes a couple of hours one day and finish up the next. Other people I know tell me they take several days, most of each day to complete one. If you have a problem with what I write, why do you read it? All you actually have to do is block my name on here and then won't be burdened with anything I write, because obviously it does bother you.
It's okay, it only takes me "about 3 min's maybe max" to read your stuff because I'm such a fast reader. "Other people I know tell me they take several days, most of each day" to read your posts. :))
When I mention 65% of the time I win that = Tables meeting a $200 goal.
The other 35% is = Profits from $25 to $175 and also -$25 to -$250 limiting hands per table to 20 hands.
A mild approach of 12 hands per table and goal of $150 is considered more conservative using the following betting pattern of 1,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3 units per bet.
I've surpassed my standard bank roll of $1000 and in most visits to the casino, I only use an average of $250/per side as a starting bank roll.
Here are 10 shoes ... am I playing it correctly?
use the http://wizardofodds/play/baccarat shoes to test. My video's are just there to show you how to make the bets.
here is a video if you can not move to different tables you can play full shoes by simply betting as I did in this latest video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfDrLEtCwRI
Quote from: Wally Gator on June 08, 2018, 12:31:52 AM
Here are 10 shoes ... am I playing it correctly?
These were from B&M. Wanted to know if I'm playing it correctly.
I do't know what else to tell you. I don't test anything with pre-made shoes. Best to just play real time shoes and decide for yourself. I've added more than 15 video's showing everyone how to bet. If you can count 1-2-3-4 then you shouldn't have any problems following this partner strategy.
If you are having issues, then this program is not for you. Watch the video's or give up is all I can tell you.
Thanks for the all the videos presented. I like the latest progression 1,2,3,2,3,2,3.
Wally,
I checked your spreadsheets. Good programming of the system.
In the same spreadsheets use 1,2,3,2,3,2,3. The new progression is better.
Thanks James.
I watched Demo 8 and then 9, which was a replay of 8 with different cards being dealt. I'm not sure how you are counting, but in Demo 8, there appears to have been an 8 unit or $200 loss and in Demo 9 a 2 unit or $50 win. You state in the video that Demo 8 has a 1 unit loss and Demo 9 broke even. Perhaps I'm not following your counting so I wrote down the sequencing (leaving out the ties) and here's what I came up with: (perhaps you can provide corrections?)
Demo 8
1. 1 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is 0
2. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -1
3. 1 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is 0
4. 1 on P and 3 on B => P wins = score is -2
5. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -3
6. 1 on P and 2 on B => P wins = score is -4
7. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -5
8. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is -4
9. 1 on P and 3 on B => P wins = score is -6
10. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -7
11. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is -6
12. 1 on P and 3 on B => P wins = score is -8
13. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -9
14. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is -8
15. 1 on P and 3 on B => P wins = score is -10
16. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is -9
17. 3 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is -7
18. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is -6
19. 3 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -8
End of Session
Demo 9
1. 1 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is 0
2. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -1
3. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is -2
4. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is -3
5. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is -2
6. 1 on P and 3 on B => P wins = score is -4
7. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -3
8. 3 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is -1
9. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is 0
10. 3 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is 2
11. 4 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is 5
12. 1 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is 5
13. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is 4
14. 2 on P and 1 on B => B wins = score is 3
15. 1 on P and 2 on B => P wins = score is 2
16. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is 1
17. 1 on P and 2 on B => P wins = score is 0
18. 2 on P and 1 on B => P wins = score is -1
19. 1 on P and 2 on B => B wins = score is 0
20. 1 on P and 3 on B => B wins = score is 2
End of Session
Thanks for posting your videos. A better understanding how you are counting would be helpful.
Wally
Your spreadsheet is correct. Play as per your Spreadsheet.
Demo 8: The correct decisions are P,B,B,B,P.B.P.B.B.P.B.B.P.P.P.P.P.B. The result is 0 units after the 18th decision. The decisions shown by you for Demo 8 are not as per video. Goto youtube Talk Craps channel for better videos of varmenti.
Quote from: james on June 10, 2018, 10:16:33 AM
Your spreadsheet is correct. Play as per your Spreadsheet.
OK, thanks.
If there is any baccarat forum members who like to meetup, My wife & I will be "Partner betting" at Fallsview Casino Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada tonight between 6pm till 2am. Drop by and say hi.
Let me
Know more in advance. I would have met you. I love fallsview!!! The backroom and Big baccarat is awesome' pm me!!
UPDATE: Absolutely love the "No Commission" Baccarat tables at Fallsview casino. Two tables out of the five with 1st having a run of 10 Bankers and second table with run of 14 players. Three of the five tables were open.
Quote from: alrelax on June 02, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
I've trucked 25 years, local past 10. Hopefully Ill succeed in baccarat part time enough to park the truck and quit making the other guy rich. Yea Im company but home daily and by the hour, I wouldn't have it any other way. If I succeed to my BR goal in Bac, Im parking the truck for good saving 1/2 for BR the other 1/2 banked. With todays technology playing live dealer on a smart phone while waiting in a dock is so laughable while I win. My life style is cheap and simple enough to do it.
I'm practicing team strategies with my wife, so when she loses, she'll lose to me. Why not lose it to a partner and not the house. :thumbsup: my losses become her gain, Vice versa,....
From Youtube comment: This is literally follow last decision, using winning progression 1,2,1,2,3. Come on u don't need a partner n betting both side.