This is my 1st post, but I have been around reading most of the topics and comments and
decided to share a piece and that I hope someone will find something valuable in this.
I can genuinely say that I have been there done that from 15 years of playing in casinos for I have seen what I needed to see for me to learn and not do the same mistakes all over again.
I have used countless of systems from money management, bet selections, pre-game mental and physical conditioning and all the possible ways you can think of just to get a slight advantage. I've been into feeling like a King on a 15-day winning streak only to be smothered by the loss on the 16th day, bringing me back to the reality as the common man, giving back all my winnings, my bankroll and self-confidence to go with it.
To make this short on a very long subject, I am outlining below my experience on the PRACTICAL aspects of gambling, and how we can put this to our advantage. This is not a MM or bet selection story, but a reality one.
I play for a living! or as a stock market investor lingo I'm a LONG, not a SHORT (daily trader).
Yes you read that correctly. How? My answer to that friends is rather simple, Discipline.
Discipline is far the easiest to say but the hardest thing to do, most especially if you are
on a losing session, down a few units, half the session money or worse the entire bankroll.
Bankroll, money management, bet selection is never successful most of the time for the 99% of players because of the lack of discipline. Sure, I can easily control and stop my session whenever I have reached my profit goal, but how do I control myself while on the losing side or from going overboard and the risk of ruin? Discipline is the Holy Grail.
My discipline is my system sort to say as simple as choosing between betting on banker or player side, I don't need any mathematical equation. It is what it is, no system can beat the casino, but one thing I am sure of, a disciplined player can pinch a little share of that very huge pie (casino profits) gradually and steadily all year long or as long as your life or casinos exist.
Before I elaborate on my discipline or how I morph to an ultra-disciplined being a while on play, I repeat a while on play as this is where we are grinded to, not before nor after, I am outlining below reminders for myself every time I visit the casino, or as I say the fantasy world. Where dreams come true, but nightmares are constant.
Mental, Emotional and Physical preparation. This is the 1st question I ask myself before I start any session, I have to be honest and know myself if I am worried, tired or stressed for the day.
Mental/emotional condition means more, this means you have to leave your problems or worries behind, if you can't help it well at least pretend for that moment that you don't have them. But if you can't still help it and you carry that all the time, never start that session.
The last thing you need is that distraction, as it is our biggest disadvantage. You already lost before you even start.
Physical condition, well that simply speaks for itself. Never play tired, sleepy or under the influence of liquor. Simple things like these when not taken to account, spells doom.
When you are not physically primed, just a game of baccarat especially that one shoe not going your way, easily drains you as fast as the kryptonite weakens superman. When that happens, discipline is more difficult to achieve. When you are tired and battered in a particular table/shoe, you go to an auto-pilot of self-destruction, more experienced players knows exactly what I am trying to say.
I would like to add more on how my preparations are and what I do before I start every session, how I look for my tables and so on and so on, However I need not to, I realized it is a matter of personal preference, each individual has his own approach to the baccarat game, as in the good old saying in boxing, styles makes fights.
Just to cut this short for now, and would probably add more in the days to come, here is how my session would start and look like. This is just me, and this is how I found success after the gazillions of failures so to speak. This is a matter of finding what works for you, what combo of MM and bet selection, bet size etc. that you are comfortable with and wherein you can be disciplined with.
Just for a quick history of mine, I was the aggressive type, I parlay up to the 3rd winning bet and regress back to base bet and re-start with a 1 level up base bet and so on, I flat bet every time a loss occurs then a parlays after a win. I was like this type of player for so long, I had good runs on this but failed as much. Then I went to a martingale 6 levels for only a short period, I have good runs of long winning days but only to be sacked by a couple of back to back losing days, this a double-edged sword in my view.
What I do now with much of success, I bring 12 units with me as a session capital, no ATM card, no more extra capital as feel brave stand-by mode fund if you know what I mean, just the 12 units and my gas money or whatever. My win goal is 3 units using flat bet BUT when I see my bet selection is working perfectly abnormal for me which do occurs from time to time, I parlay 2 or 3 units max with a bonus win goal as I like to call it, of up to 6 units to a max of 12-unit win for the day, I don't push my luck too far beyond the 12-unit win, heck I am more than happy to reach my win goal of 3 units by betting flat. I only do 1 session a day and balance my activities with everything else that is normal in life.
All the above that I do or my playing preference probably does not go along with yours, what matters to me is that I find contentment on a 3 unit win and a possible loss of 12 units in a day. Suppose that per unit is $100, I'm fine taking a $300 payday as when compared to the a real world job this is okay. I increase my unit value relative to my session capital and most importantly my comfort level. A comfort level is the unit value that you are prepared to lose on a particular day.
This is my system and that is my discipline.
Welcome to the forum Bacchus, thanks for an informative and down-to-earth first post.
Quote from: MarkTeruya on July 22, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
I've seen this 12 units to win 3 mentioned elsewhere, surely you can't be this naïve VLS, watch this space.
This is your opinion of bet selections based on trends, patterns, and apparently magical thinking: "Yep utter frustration at times and is why I say trending is a load of crappola, voodoo tragic." ; from another thread.
Anyone that recognizes the need for discipline must base that on some kind of conditional observance or awareness. I dare say that Bacchus must recognize some form of the three states or conditions that currently exist. The bets work great, and at some moments for a while perfectly, they work flat, neither good or bad but with flat results, or they work very badly, like a losing streak. The only trend that matters is the effectiveness trend. Once you are well armed with the current state of conditional awareness you are only left with knowing what to do with that information in order to win in a long term, over all strategy. I agree completely with Bacchus. Self discipline is the most powerful and useful of all the tools available to the aware player. Knowing that you can lose once for every ten wins means that you can win in the long term and that is power. Your mind can have power over the casinos that have to just sit there and take it from you. Discipline is what you do with the information you experience.
This was one of the finest things I ever read on any gambling forum. Thanks Bacchus.
Thank you for the warm welcome VLS.
Mark, I am glad to know that I'm not the only person
who uses such a conservative win goal. Wherein it really gets tougher
maintaining the mindset, control, patience and consistency for longer periods of days
And even months.
I have read here just recently someone who only brings 8 units
as a session capital, wherein he takes his unit wins, and ends his session
after those 8units comes to a loss, something close to that, perhaps that is the same
thread we read?
Quote from: MarkTeruya on July 22, 2016, 05:51:55 PM
Discipline is a great virtue, fantastic it is brought up and reinforced, hopefully it won't lead into a sales pitch. How's your health nowadays?
Why would a sales pitch come up? You can use any consistent bet selection process you want to have it show you the three states of possible effectiveness conditions. You don't need anything more than common sense to react to what the conditions are. It just takes discipline to stay on course. It looks to me like Bacchus already told the big secret. He/She has clearly used a working example of a proceed with caution method, limit the loss, limit the reasonable size of success results, and get out.
You must know that, typically, games of chance run in cycles. If the cycles tend to be in swings that deviate from a flat line to 5 units either side of the flat line, than getting out on the first deviation of +3 is good planning and nothing more. Limiting a loss to just 12 units, by defending against losing any more than that, is nothing more than picking a reasonable cut point based on the experience of achieving the +3 goal and the times that that goal is reached and carried out of the casino in the first place. It's an acknowledgement that the win goal represents 25% of the total allowable loss. So Bacchus is saying that he/she makes a living by reaching the win goal at least 5 times for each losing visit to a casino. (ref: One session per day.)
What's to sell? It's all here, and real experienced players can easily see that. I have no problem if Bacchus wants to charge to teach newbie, inexperienced players, -- rudimentary, bonehead, pre-101 playing methods. But from my standpoint as an experienced player, he/she has made everything very clear.
Mark, I am sharing my experience in this forum, I don't need to sell anything
or anything for gain for that matter. I received a PM just now, being asked
how and what my bet selection is, and this was my reply: (Name withheld)
Hi *****,
First off, I regret to tell you that there is no system that consistently works against all the combinations that a shoe produce, simply put, there is no "one size fits all" kind of a system that can truly consistently beat or even make a dent on the casino.
As to my bet selection or bet placement as others call it, it is more of a dynamic approach to a given scenario in the actual play the shoe is showing, be it chops, streaks, repeats, trend or anti-trend. I have somehow learned thru experience to adapt to those situations and try to time my bets. Timing is everything, if I don't understand or can't get hold of what the shoe is doing in front of me, I simply sit-out or employ the no-bet mode, this will do you more good as oppose to trying to guess your bets hand after hand.
However the real reason If I may say, success in this endeavor, is my long term view and my level of contentment which is a 3-unit win minimum, however on good days and well-timed plays, a 6-unit win to a max of 12-unit win do come sometimes. I play 1 session a day with 12 units as session capital, win or lose.
Right now, where my comfort level (money I can afford to lose and not being stressed about it) is $200 base bet ($600 win daily take-home min.) with a session capital of $2,400 for the day. 1 session a day. win or lose.
On a month I play 24 days total with rest days in between, depending on my physical and mental/emotional state. I treat this like a regular job, short of making this my full-time profession, balancing with real life living Daddy/Husband duties.
As to the results, based on June 2016, It is 19Wins 5Losses with a net gain of $7,700. Not much to some but will do for me. This June the shortest time I got to reach my goal was in minutes with just 3 hands. The longest was 4 hours, my losing days were usually the longest.
I'm spending what I'm earning, just like a regular job's income covering my living expenses and some necessity purchases. I can if I want to level up my base bet to $500 for $1,500 take home, this would be nice, but I'm not on the comfort level yet, no matter how encouraging my past results were. I always remind myself, there is always a chance that I may run to a string of bad days, and would not like that on that level. I will come to that in time. As I look at this long term, and in long term view/play.. Timing is all but everything.
In Summary, the advice I can give to you is, the lower your win goals are and the shorter your time in the casino will be in a given day or session, the higher the chance of you getting some success and with consistent results. Real discipline is key.
Regards,
Bacchus
Here you go Gizmotron
Gambling Psychology -
Learning proper playing strategies and sound money management principles is only part of a successful casino gambler's game plan. Having a proper playing attitude is just as important.
The typical attitude of losing gamblers is something like this: They always go to the casinos to have fun and of course, they always expect to lose. They experience an emotional high when playing and are invariably swept up in the exciting casino atmosphere. They always feel obligated to take the free drinks offered by the casino as a way of getting even for their losses. And, of course, when they lose, they always blame it on rotten luck, or poor cards, but the consolation for their losing is "well, I had a good time anyway," attitude.
Keep this thought in mind next time you go to a casino to have some fun. First, when you enter a casino, you are entering a place of business. And like all successful businesses, the casinos are operated by shrewd businessmen whose job is firstly, to keep you playing and happy and secondly, to separate you from your money as quickly and painlessly as possible. To meet these objectives, they create an atmosphere in the casino that can be described as a "Disneyland for adults." No clocks to let you know it's time to leave this utopia, no windows to let you see out to the real world, free drinks at the tables, free lounge shows and plenty of pretty girls to keep you happy and playing.
And what happens to the average gambler when he/she enters this casino designed excitement? For him/her, the rewards of winning all of the casino's money far outweigh the risks of losing his meager hundred dollar bankroll. And this exciting atmosphere also makes it so easy for the average player to feel lucky and go for broke at the chance of winning that jackpot.
First and foremost, in order to be a winner, you must learn to control your emotions in the casino. The real struggle when you are playing is, in most cases, not between you and the casino, but between you and yourself. You will find plenty of temptations to keep you playing and losing, therefore, you must learn to develop a sense of timing or awareness of when to play and, more importantly, when to quit.
In short, you must develop the proper playing attitudes to overcome the psychological barriers created by the casinos to keep you losing and to make it difficult for you to leave the tables with a profit. For example, go to the casinos expecting to win (rather than lose). Granted, there are no guarantees that you will win, but likewise there is no guarantee that you have to lose. Always prepare yourself for those inevitable losing sessions. No matter how skilfully you play, sometimes everything will go wrong. Will you quit and call it a day or will you be like most gamblers and dig in for more cash, hoping the tide will turn? And how many gamblers have the attitude that a small profit is better than no profit or a loss? Not many.
Above all, learn to develop a sense of timing for when to play and when to quit. Playing blackjack, for example, if you are tired or have been drinking will cost you dearly.
These attitudes are not always natural. Most of them take an amount of work before you can feel comfortable playing with discipline. But if you develop these proper playing attitudes and learn proper playing and money management strategies, you will be able to enjoy the fun and excitement of casino gambling with a minimum risk at your bankroll. Isn't it worth the effort?
Player or Banker?
"Your primary battle is with yourself, as this battle permeates all aspects of your play, and proper self-management --as one might be managed by a coach on the sidelines is critical."
"You are wrong when you say that the casino deserves no respect as an opponent. These people know more about the psyche of the gambler than is ever published in any psychology book, and they are more than willing to use this information in any way they can to trip up the winning player."
"As a player, you have 3 fronts to watch: monitoring yourself, monitoring the game, and monitoring the casino as it reacts to your play of the game. Repeated lessons in each of these areas teach one to , value playing when you are not stressed ("by anything" including your level of play), not emotionally upset, and well rested, and to understand that NO APPROACH to play wins in every situation EVEN ONE WHICH DELIVERS A verifiable WIN BIAS-- and when you encounter those bad shoes, one must learn to "take their lumps" like a big boy or girl, and walk away a temporary "LOSER". In this regard, playing at, NOT ABOVE one's comfort level is the mark of a confident player, sticking more money out in front of you when you are losing, is the act of a scared person, NOT A WINNER."
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There is no monitoring the casino. Of course they will have there limits on every game. If the dealers and floor managers I play with cheered any harder for players they would look like this:
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Quote from: MarkTeruya on July 22, 2016, 08:14:44 PM
Here you go Gizmotron
It's pretty well written. I never concern myself with the ambient distractions of the casino other than getting to know the section supervisors. I know that they watch me hammer the win streaks. There is no way they can manipulate the characteristics of randomness. They don't need to. The sequences of death are always just a few spins away. Mindset and self control are my responsibility to keep in control. The casino does not exist other than a mechanism to give or take money. The random flow of information is my battlefield. The flow of effectiveness dictates my decisions. The distractions are of no concern to me.
That's what works for me. "Aim small, miss small," that's how you teach someone to hit the target. I try to see only the randomness flow. Focus, see the opportunity, strike, these are the tools of discipline. I'm never distracted by the mistakes of other players.
Quote from: Bacchus on July 22, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Bankroll, money management, bet selection is never successful most of the time for the 99% of players because of the lack of discipline. Sure, I can easily control and stop my session whenever I have reached my profit goal, but how do I control myself while on the losing side or from going overboard and the risk of ruin? Discipline is the Holy Grail.
My "discipline" is my system sort to say as simple as choosing between betting on banker or player side, I don't need any mathematical equation. It is what it is, no system can beat the casino, but one thing I am sure of, a disciplined player can pinch a little share of that very huge pie (casino profits) gradually and steadily all year long or as long as your life or casinos exist.
You should be very proud of yourself, Bacchus. You took the journey....the very same journey that we've all taken....the winning, the losing, the betting "this" and the betting "that", the futile "money chase"....and you came away from it all relatively unscathed. In fact, dare I say, you came away from it all BRILLIANTLY.
Now you're simply the "toughest out" the casino will ever face. You've "got it". Yes, my friend, as you put it just above, "Discipline IS the Holy Grail". Learning to control that which you can control. We, as players, haven't got much more than that as we battle through our sessions; ahh, but the savvy and astute players know that, in the long run, that's pretty much all we'll ever need to succeed.
If you're unaware of my philosophies regarding this game, I am compelled to inform you that I have been espousing the very necessity of Patience and Discipline and Consistency and Conservative win goals/loss limits combined with our Player's Edges (of which "no-betting" is a major part) for years and years on these very forums. So, with me at least, you're "preaching to the choir". And I should inform you....it's a darn good choir. It's a group of players that know exactly what it takes to get the better of this game over the long run; and then, just as importantly, have the tools (yes, the discipline included therein) to put it into action each and every session they play.
I thank you Bacchus for authoring a thread that caught my interest enough to respond; you see, I'm retired now and so I spend alot more time at the casino and alot less time at the keyboard. That, combined with the fact that there's just not much worth responding to in most of these threads, has me posting less and less. But, in this case, you inspired me Bacchus, and, again, for that I thank you and wish you continued successes. Take care and stay well.
Quote from: gr8player on July 23, 2016, 02:15:34 PM
If you're unaware of my philosophies regarding this game, I am compelled to inform you that I have been espousing the very necessity of Patience and Discipline and Consistency and Conservative win goals/loss limits combined with our Player's Edges (of which "no-betting" is a major part) for years and years on these very forums. So, with me at least, you're "preaching to the choir". And I should inform you....it's a darn good choir. It's a group of players that know exactly what it takes to get the better of this game over the long run; and then, just as importantly, have the tools (yes, the discipline included therein) to put it into action each and every session they play.
gr8player thank you for the kind comments.
I wish I had not started the journey, though I am relieved I will never ever get worse going forward, owing to the acquired discipline.
The experience gained is my guiding principle for the long and winding road ahead. Our journey never ends.
Just by reading your comment above I do feel we are on the same axis if I may say,
Please, I would like to know how did you come to that conclusion/philosophies that seems very close to mine. When was the point of that realization? How would a certain session of yours be on a very bad day?
Thanks and regards,
As to my "point of realization":
After playing this game, on a serious basis, for quite some time, I was in the position to ascertain exactly that which was assisting me in my game, as opposed to that which was undermining it. Thereupon came my "point of realization". That point in time where I realized that the game was more about "me" than it was about "them". I cannot control the cards and I cannot control their outcomes, but I can control "me". And so I quickly learned to take control of that which I am able to control.
You see, Bacchus, there is no magical formula for bet selection, nor is there one for money management. And the sooner one comes to that realization, the better. Over the normal course of time, your bets will win and lose, and your money will come and go. Up and down, down and up, 'round and 'round we go.
And so we come to strive for some consistency, for some normalcy. And the savvy, astute player learns that that consistency and that normalcy appears ONLY within the most Patient and Disciplined of us. And so we learn that, yes, Discipline is the Holy Grail.
The patient and the disciplined INHERENTLY (read: by their very nature) utilize the very best bet selection processes and the most efficient money-management strategies. If for no other reason than their P and D. And this is exactly why the P and the D is so imperative. (Those that are following this and understand it, "get it"....those that don't, probably never will.)
As to my reaction to "bad days":
"Spit Happens" I'm not immune, nor are you, nor is anyone. There are days that what I am doing is simply not working. All I can do is accept the loss and move on. (read: terminate the session)
Learning to lose is just as important as learning to win. No one likes it, nor should they; it stings. But it's all simply a part of the game, and there's nothing we can do about it but accept it. Why? Because the alternative is "chasing losses"; and, trust me, "chasing losses" is the biggest contributor to the casino's coffers, bar none. Don't become victim to it....much better to walk the smaller loss.
That all said, I also happen to play a "variance" game; and so, after a loss (dependent upon how that loss played itself out), I just might adjust my next session's unit sizes upwards a bit, all in the name of efficient recoup and/or profit. But true "variance" play is Baccarat at it's most advanced....now is not the time for me to delve into that any further.
Suffice to say that bad days come and go, just as the good ones do. And so we learn to both recognize and accept both. Just, my friend, keep that Discipline flame afire, and you'll be just fine. Take care and stay well.
SPOT ON!
This post of yours is truly classic, years of experience
conveyed in a hundred letters, I felt every word of it.
Anyone reading this who is still unaware, this is your wake-up call!
Thank you for sharing gr8player.
Thank you so much for taking the time and writing it all down.
I have been playing bac for almost one year. It is the best gambling game I have ever tried. And I have played roulette poker machines, then I got to Bacarat. And here I will stay.
I have come to exactly the same conclusions. As you. 12 units per day. I play 3 shoes if the bankroll holds out . Plus 3. A. Shoe target. Stop loss stop win. The most I will take is a loss of 5 in a row. Better off with a new shoe usually. I do bet trends and streaks. So far so good.
I just want to play long term so am happy to make a smaller target goal. Then over time be in a position to make the 12 units bigger units. Thus making more profits for the days I win.
I also think. That to risk just 10 per cent of your total bankroll is best for me no stress.
I played more aggressively in the beginning but found. I could not force wins. I had to accept that this game was good. But required a disciplined approach. Most times you win or get ahead.
But a win is not a win till you are out of the casino with the profits. I am retired and this is a hobby. I really enjoy it. I have been reading all the posts on various forums and yours was the best I have read. So thanks again. I am in Australia. So lots of naturals to ya !!!!
Thank you for a very informative and truth to earth experiences. I can not comment any more of your post. It's true that there is no system to beat the casino, especially baccarat. The only thing is DISCIPLINE. It happens to me thousand times but I still haven't learned to stop when losing. I have been on winning for a week, but last night, yes last night, I gave it all back even though I did realize I'm on the losing day. I can not just call it a day but go back to get more money. I feel (just like the other thousand times) ashamed and unintelligent. Right now, I'm down financially and mentally. I have only 800 left. Stupid me. Discipline is the only thing to survive.
Golden Dragon -- looks like you fell victim to the dreaded monster which destroys most gamblers..........the feared and destructive C.E.
C.E. = Casino Environment
Style drift in bet selection and position sizing FOR THE WORSE should be a big focus. You can drift very far over time and not even know it. A huge factor for me has been playing in the midst of much bigger players. It tends to make you too aggressive for your bank roll. If a player has a rack(s), most likely they have many, many, many racks behind that and more.
100% the game is patience, willpower, some type of progression/regression on wagers, money management and the experience that comes with losing in the past if one can change their own ways. The more you win the more you lust in the game, the harder and tougher you make it for yourself.
Anything good, fun, enjoyable, i.e.;expensive hobbies, addictions concerning drugs/alcohol, etc. that many have and so on, are some prime examples.
Baccarat sucks in many that see easy money and riches. In live casinos there are a ton of excuses players blame for their loses, other players, rigged machine shuffles, fast dealers, etc. But in all cases it is the player with delusions of fantasy.
A top source of problems in gambling as with financial risk taking has to be one's psychology and attitude towards money. Someone who has worked very hard in their life, been tested to the core in many arenas, and has dealt with large financials is in an advantaged position. It is their life experience that gives them the strength to act decisively.
I have a substantial problem at this time as I am a different player when in a win back position. Some of the amounts taken back and elapsed times are so far out of anything I have achieved with a lead. Why not play like that out of the gates?
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Quote from: GoldenDragon on September 01, 2016, 05:25:42 PM
Thank you for a very informative and truth to earth experiences. I can not comment any more of your post. It's true that there is no system to beat the casino, especially baccarat. The only thing is DISCIPLINE. It happens to me thousand times but I still haven't learned to stop when losing. I have been on winning for a week, but last night, yes last night, I gave it all back even though I did realize I'm on the losing day. I can not just call it a day but go back to get more money. I feel (just like the other thousand times) ashamed and unintelligent. Right now, I'm down financially and mentally. I have only 800 left. Stupid me. Discipline is the only thing to survive.
Hello, GoldenDragon, and welcome to the forum.
Yours is a rather familiar refrain, and you should know that the problem is not limited to you, nor any single player. We ALL suffer discipline lapses from time to time, so don't beat yourself up too much about it.
That said, I feel compelled to offer you some serious advice:
You might want to consider quitting gambling altogether. And I say that only with your best interests at heart. You see, my friend, not everyone is cut out for this game. And those that cannot control their emotions in the heat of battle at the tables certainly, IMHO, fall into that category.
Never forget this:
Writing about discipline is the easy part. All one needs to be able to do is to spell it correctly. Words come relatively easily...
BUUTTT, to empower those words and ACTUALLY INCORPORATE their usage into one's game AT ALL TIMES...that, my friend, is the hard part.
And I've found, after all these years spent at the Baccarat tables, that the MAJORITY of players wouldn't know discipline from a hole in the wall. They are there, after all is said and done, to gamble. They're there for the rush of it all. I could write a book all about discipline, and they'd be interested only in finding some pictures to look at.
IF, my friend, that lacking, non-serious player is YOU, again, I humbly suggest that you find a more suitable hobby for yourself. More suitable and a heck-of-a-lot LESS COSTLY.
Take care, and be well.
House edge is the most powerful tool of casino. Next comes "Gamblers' ruin" or the fact that a person playing with handful of chips can not win to a casino having virtually endless chips. Last but not the least is the variance, specially the negative one killing all strategies, MM, systems or whatever you may call.
The irony is, most of the educated player know all these either through reading about them or through there experiences, yet they chose to gamble with or without any strategy. If discipline makes a winner, a tracker, bot or tester is the most disciplined player. Feed that with your strategy, MM, stop loss or whatever u call discipline. Simulate long data and see where u will be standing after playing regularly. Nothing can make you understand better.
Quote from: Albalaha on September 04, 2016, 04:32:25 PM
If discipline makes a winner, a tracker, bot or tester is the most disciplined player.
This is simply not so, for there exists no "tracker, bot, or tester" that can play this game as subjectively as I.
I've said it a thousand times, but it bears repeating here: I've learned to take over control that which I CAN control and, believe me, there is no way that can be done, nor replicated, in any "mechanical" manner.
Well...it is not a new thing. Well at least I have something to read here. Wishing everyone a great day!
Hello Everyone,
I am new to this Forum and this is my first Post!
Bacchus , THANK YOU for this Thread! It actually confirms what I am doing at the moment.
Like you, I have a heavily disciplined approach. My aim is to increase my Bankroll by 10% per day. This has been happening successfully so far but I prefer your method of 12 units with the three units profit. What I have been doing is a Goal of 10%, sometimes if things are going smoothly, I try for over 10% but with a stop loss of 5% of that days profit. If I hit 15% I stop and if I go back down to 5% (of that days profit)I stop. Usually though, I attempt only a few bets over my 10% Goal and if it looks like achieving that target is not going smoothly I stop for the Day.
You have inspired me further and I will be adopting your Bankroll Mgt.
Oh, I play Baccarat online at a Live Dealer Casino and ONLY flat Bet. This has been going on for roughly two Weeks and I am playing everyday.
Thank you again for your Post and PLEASE keep us updated! :)
Warmest Regards,
Artemis
There are times where a session will start very bad. My playing colleague stated 'All of the shoes don't look good'. And we are talking a house that has an s load of them going. I think I'm doing three shots next time I start to get a bad vibe going.
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Up for awareness.... I got my share of experience too...
Anyone else lock up? I went over 90 minutes last night with no bet. Just wandering around the floor looking.
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Quote from: 21 Aces on October 20, 2016, 05:27:31 PM
Anyone else lock up? I went over 90 minutes last night with no bet. Just wandering around the floor looking.
I did better than that last week. Rocked up at local casino, which has no score board. Shoe is nearing the end, couple of Chinese players, but they record the shoe which is impossible to follow, both Banker and Player recorded as an "X". They are so slow, so I decide to have a meal and wait for a new shoe. I missed the shuffle up cos I was eating. Went over the same Chinese players had started the shoe and gone outside for a smoke. N
No way am I jumping in the middle of a shoe, because I need to know how many hands have been played. It would have taken at least an hour before this shoe finished, so I went home. Didn't place a single bet and ate for free :) Sod them, they should have a electronic score board by now.
Starting to see that warm-up and post play training have more and more value.
Warm-up
The game does not have an ability to care what is going on in our world. That is, everyone shows up to play at a certain day and time, and the number of tables and nature of every game may be this or that, but they are all live whether you are ready or not. Thinking that a series of $0 bets or low amount bets with maximum effort are a good approach to getting back in the cockpit. The upside is that a player can get back into a strong performance position, and the downside is the player goes redlined if they do well with zero or small small.
Post Play Training
Post play training can be allocating a certain amount of win to playing at a table really working hard to eliminate all real play weaknesses. This may be best at a table by yourself so there are no other players to influence. For example, if you are up $1,000 on the session, you could allocated $200 to play like this and improve.
Training
Training anytime should be a benefit if you take it seriously. This can include training in a knock out situation, strong up session, and everywhere in between.
Also, after so much experience playing, it is very difficult to understand what it is that makes a strong run of wins. Most experienced players will run into losing streaks and other times go on can't lose streaks.
Complete morons make a hell a lot of money playing professional ball and a number of a billion things in life. Go ask an executive casino manager about hold percentages, number of winners, the long run, and who win and who doesn't. Surprisingly, many that play discount the impact or infrequent players or players that come in and take massive, not massive, but MASSIVE LOSS.
The 'in the long run', everyone loses, baccarat is so hard line of thinking is great on paper! I equalled or bettered what most on Wall Street can not do in a year last night. It was so boss on a percentage basis too! And I won so I guess their 'in the long run' snipers will be gunning for me and everyone else tonight.
Actually it is better going through life believing that you won't succeed or that it is impossible. I mean that are such great prospects for everyone out there with a the great professions out there an no executives, boards, and AI/ machines looking to eliminate all of them.
People vilify casinos as evil when they offer one of the fairest propositions around. All of mankind has been built on slavery, debt slavery, or other forms of domination throughout history.
Actually quite laughable that so many are blinded to this. The lies and propaganda own you, pawn.
Best regards,
Fellow pawn
Rough travel to and from play can take away energy and put someone in a bad mindset. I have had a couple times where I turned around and went home because the way there was a parking lot. A non-player doesn't think most any of this matters. Those that are in position to have private car service or to fly private do it for a reason. Time is money, and they can concentrate on business, pleasure or rest while traveling. They evaluate the cost of this which can actually be huge to the benefit, but there are levels. A rock band, etc. might be living in their car, but if they make it big financially they will be flying or even flying private in the end with everything in between along the way.
For most players there is a drive involved to play. If you live in a major metropolitan area there are times of day where the time required to travel to their house can double or triple. These are typically rush hours times. In a big city area, rush hour is literally most of the day until after 9:00 pm or later, and late night not too much different than rush hour. So... whether it is for work or playing baccarat, location is a very important factor.
Getting prepared for a move that should be a plus independent of baccarat. Residing less than 15 minutes away from the house at any time of day is a significant advantage IMO. Ideally, I can score 5-10 minutes. In addition, most people are spoiled pack rats that own way too much that they don't use. Better parts of town for sure, but business/ play first.
Mental and emotional condition
Zero Hedge
Visualizing The Relationship Between Money & Happiness
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 03/30/2018 - 22:15
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-30/visualizing-relationship-between-money-happiness
No surprise on Thai people and many other cultures here.
Performance in play comes from no anchors.
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If I had to do life all over again to date, and this would be a recommendation to any young people out there... Contain your possessions to this and be as liquid as possible in cash/ bankroll, metals, savings, investments, and income producing assets like commercial real estate and businesses - American Express charge card only and credit card(s) for REAL emergencies only or legitimate accounting:
2 pieces of Travelpro baby. Oh stuff, I can't fit it in my Travelpro set. My set is full. Better not buy it and I will put the money to work in something. In fact, I might pull a wild move and revert to this. Take the best clothing you own, donate the rest, and throw away what is not of interest for donations.
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Quote from: alrelax on September 02, 2016, 12:16:36 PM
100% the game is patience, willpower, some type of progression/regression on wagers, money management and the experience that comes with losing in the past if one can change their own ways. The more you win the more you lust in the game, the harder and tougher you make it for yourself.
Anything good, fun, enjoyable, i.e.;expensive hobbies, addictions concerning drugs/alcohol, etc. that many have and so on, are some prime examples.
Baccarat sucks in many that see easy money and riches. In live casinos there are a ton of excuses players blame for their loses, other players, rigged machine shuffles, fast dealers, etc. But in all cases it is the player with delusions of fantasy.