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[alrelax]

So we have two shoes with the same cut position with different order of cards out of the auto shuffler.  Doesn't prove anything, nothing. 

The whole point of this was to have a set-up the same and thus proving a different cut and possibly a different burn card would change the outcomes. 

Same amount of burn cards, same cut position with different results.

[Azim]

Let me ask you this way, Is this what you were expecting?


Shuffle 1).  Cut at 10->  20B's 13P's and 2T's.
Same Shuffle 1).  Cut at 20-> 14B's 19P's and 4T''s.
Same Shuffle 1).  Cut at 70-> 12B's 12P's and 6T''s.

[alrelax]

This would be ideal for my purposes:

Shoe #1:  Cut card @ ____.  Burn Card ___ for total of  ____burned.

Results posted as the picture on a horizontal card as shown.

Any fashion, X=Players or P=Players, and 0=Bankers or B=Bankers.
Or, Red 0 is Bankers and Blue 0 is Players.   

thanks.

[goez]

Yes Azim,
There are what I expected.
The patterns are much different from each others.
I rest my case.

[alrelax]

The last test of the 2 shoes were in a different set-up order from what I understand.  The first tests were the same order.

Setting up the shoes in different orders does not accomplish anything.

Setting up the shoes in the same exact order, cutting in a different spot would prove that even if the cards were pre-set, that a random cut and a burn card will change any possible pre-set outcome from happening.  Which I know the latter would have to happen. 

[Azim]

I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

Let me start by saying I started with 8 decks. I did a shuffle.

For files without new the shuffles should be the same. I have produced a log file for that.

For files with new the shuffles should be the same. I have produced a log file for that too.

If the starting shuffle for files with new should all have the same and different for the files with out new., and files without the word new should have their own shuffle.

This is confusing to explain.

may be its me...


Without new the shuffle was 1 4 7.

With new the shuffle was 2 5 6.


I hope this made sense.

[Azim]

This would be ideal for my purposes:

Shoe #1:  Cut card @ ____.  Burn Card ___ for total of  ____burned.

Results posted as the picture on a horizontal card as shown.

Any fashion, X=Players or P=Players, and 0=Bankers or B=Bankers.
Or, Red 0 is Bankers and Blue 0 is Players.   

thanks.

This is easy..

BaccaractResult10.txt should have the shuffle and what the burned card was and play by play. Result10.txt should have the results only.

BaccaractResult11.txt should have the same shuffle as 10 and what the burned card was and play by play. Result11.txt should have the results only.


BaccaractResult50.txt should have the same shuffle as 10 and what the burned card was and play by play. Result50.txt should have the results only.


BaccaractResult50New.txt should have the it's own shuffle and what the burned card was and play by play. Result50New.txt should have the results only.

BaccaractResult60New.txt should have the it's own shuffle same as 60New and what the burned card was and play by play. Result60New.txt should have the results only.


BaccaractResult408.txt should have the it's own shuffle same as 50 and what the burned card was and play by play. Result408.txt should have the results only.


BaccaractResult408New.txt should have the it's own shuffle same as 50New and what the burned card was and play by play. Result408New.txt should have the results only.

[21 Aces]

Where I play after the cut there are a certain number of burn cards.  One is dealt face up and the rest face down.   Then the first hand is dealt.  The total number of burn cards is always the same.  I'll get that number...

[Azim]

Yes. I saw that last night too.

It's the value of the open card that gives the count of burnt cards.

Example:  Shuffle   cut,  open card value 5 burn cards count 5, for a total of 6:

Example:  Shuffle   cut,  open card value 7 burn cards count 7 for a total of 8:

That's how I have done my cut and burn.

[21 Aces]

One face up and ten face down burn cards.

[Azim]

Is it always 11 where you are?

if face up card is 6. burn facing down will be 6 for a total of 7. Is what I saw and have done.

if face up card is 10,J,Q,K. burn facing down will be 10 for a total of 11. Is what I saw and have done.

[21 Aces]

I think it is always the same.

[Azim]

If the interest is still there, I can do the same, burn 11 cards.

Do you want to give me spots where you want me to do the cuts?

I will run them against both the shuffles, that I have so far, so we comparing apples to apples.

[alrelax]

I will have a few completed from doing manually today.  Will scan and post in the morning from my office computer, I don't have a scanner at my house.

[goez]

If it is not too much trouble I would like to compare two shoes with cut points exactlyvone deck apart, and two shoes with cut points two decks apart.