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Title: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Atlantis on January 28, 2017, 10:14:16 AM
This can be a fun system that's easy to track and play.

For Baccarat - but can be applied to roulette as well (more even chances on roulette)

Example below uses even chance R/B ROULETTE results.

For instance RED/BLACK pairs (Banker/Player in baccarat)

Play dominant side of last 5 R/B 'pair results'.

Odd Pair = RB and BR

Even Pair = RR and BB

Best of 5 progression.
Reduce to 1u and start new cycle when level or new high.

Check for the DOMINANT side of the LAST 5 'pair results'  (odd or even pairs)
Wait for next decision (R or B) then play for the "dominant pair" results to continue eg: same (even) or opposite (odd)

Session result
===========

RR
BB
RB
RB
RB  Initial tracking of 5 pairs of R/B - odd is dominant side - play odd after next result.
BR  w+1 - play odd next
RR  L-1 - play odd next
BR  w+1 - play odd next
RB  w+1 - play odd next
BB  L-1  - play odd next          +1 stay at 1u for next cycle
BR  w+1 - play odd next
BB  L-1 - play odd next
RR  L-1 - play even next
BB  w+1 - play even next
RB  L-1 - play even next          +0 up to 2u for next cycle
BR  L-2 - play even next
BR  L-2 - play odd next
RR  L-2 - play odd next
RB  w+2 - play odd next
RB  w+2 - play odd next         -2 up to 3u for next cycle
RB  w+3 - play odd next
BB  L-3 - play odd next
BR  w+3 - play odd next
BR  w+3 - play odd next         +4 new high; down to 1u for next cycle
BR  w+1 - play odd next
BB  L-1 - play odd next
RB  w+1 - play odd next
RB  w+1                                 +6 (*stopped here*)

Or can use your own suitable progression idea or tweak.

Regards,
A.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 29, 2017, 09:02:01 AM
Hi Atlantis ,I like this way to play....its like my system  Diamond cutter  baccarat!!!
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 29, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
This is my system...
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Atlantis on January 29, 2017, 01:08:19 PM
Hi verrengia,

Thanks verrengia. Wow! Seems you already earlier formulated this code first!
Have you improved it since or got any playing/staking tips to share?
Thanks for your input. I like the method for same reasons as you stated.
Anyhow, always grateful for any further input should you care to share any points...

Thanks,
A.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: VLS on January 29, 2017, 02:04:07 PM
Thanks for sharing verrengia*,

Interesting situational, easy to follow and flat method :nod:

Now it's there for the tweaking by the fellows :thumbsup:

Cheers & many thanks to you and Atlantis too.

:cheer:
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: caddy on January 29, 2017, 07:37:41 PM
Can the last 10 decisions also be split into 5 pairs and be  used to determine odds and evens,, or do you always have to look at the past 5 sets of

2's?
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 30, 2017, 10:06:40 AM
In original version I play like this:
If I play x even group....
Exm:
B...osserve wait
P...lose -1
P...losr -1
P....osserve!!On this time I look the pastI have 3 P..
        So,now I play 2 unit for recouper on P
         Because was a serie.  If alternate,like:
B wait
P-1
P-1
B wait. Now 2 units bet on P for alternate.if lose play immediate for 2/2/2group.
Example:
B wait
P lose-1
P lose-1
B wait
B lose -2 play for 2/2
P.  Win
P win closed cycle
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 30, 2017, 10:11:34 AM
Onother tip...don't play Martingala..
But paroli...if its failed
Try the next time paroli of 2of 3
Depende how many units are you down.

Paroli only in the second fase..
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 30, 2017, 10:25:01 AM
If you play the other version....you can play at beginnin of the shoe.

There is some one with original result of one shoe???
I can play all to show you how to play in details.
If there is someone to make better the all system.
Please come in the didcussion.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Atlantis on January 30, 2017, 11:13:48 AM
Session of "DOMINANT PAIRS" using my same rules in the topic header but now I try using a "betting string" progression idea:

1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-5....  (15 step   45u)

Start at Step 1 with a stake of 1u.

On a loss move one step to the RIGHT.
On a win move one step to the LEFT.

However, I ALWAYS restart from step 1 if a "level high" or "new high" in the bankroll is reached.


*   = level or new high in bankroll


Real baccarat session (Ties not shown)

First track 5 couplet pair results:
 
Pairs.....+/-........... Step for next bet
==========================
pp
bp
pb
bb
bp
pp         -1                    s2
pp         -2                    s3
pb         -1                    s2
bp         -2                    s3
bp         -1                    s4
bp        +1*                   s1
pp        +0                    s2
pp         -1                    s3
pb         +0                   s2
bb         -1                    s3
pb         -2                    s4
bb         +0                    s3
bb        +1                    s2
pb         +0                    s3
bp         -1                   s4
bb         -3                    s5
pp         -1                    s4
bb        +1*                    s3
pp       +2*                   s1
bp       +1                     s2
bp        +0                     s3
bb       +1                    s2
bp        +0                     s3
bp       +1                     s2
pb       +2*                    s1
pb       +3*                    s1
pp       +2                     s2
bp       +3*                    s1
bp       +4*                    s1
bb       +3                     s2
bb       +2                     s3
bp       +1                     s4
pp        -1                     s5
bb       +1                     s4
bb       +3                     s3
bp       +2                     s4
pp      +4*                     s1
pb      +3                      s2
pp      +4*                     s1
bb      +5*                     s1
bp      +4                      s2
pb      +3                      s3
pb      +4                      s2
bb      +3                      s3
pb      +4                      s2
bb      +3                      s3
pp      +2                      s4
bp      +0                      s5
pp      +2                      s4
bp       +0                      s5
pp      +2                      s4
pp      +4                      s3
pb      +3                      s4
pp      +5*                     s1
bb      +6*                     s1
====================
STOPPED +6u


It's a bit of a grinder - but seemed to fare quite well.


A.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: tdx on January 30, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
This method may be a good way to play as a team...like 4 people investing $ 1000 each for a total of a $4000 total bankroll.

Then have each person play at different tables.

Of course everyone must play the same progression and exit at the same profit or loss on the shoe..

However it is hard to find good team members because:

1 You have to find people who have the time to play and are not working.

2. If they have the time to play, then they are probably unemployed and don't have any money to invest.

3. You have to find honest people so that they don't steal money, and say they lost $500 on a shoe when they actually won $ 500 and keep the $ 1000.

Also I would look at a different progression such as 111112222233333  up as you lose down as you win and go back to 1 unit every time you show a 1 unit profit. The 111222 ......described above may be too risky since you can easily lose 7 hands in a row with the method.


Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: verrengia on January 31, 2017, 05:07:39 AM
Atlantis is difficult 4 players....when there is money in the way ,are everytime problems....!!!!
I try al ready in the pass,but money make ppls crazy...look donald Trump.

I think the best way is take 200 with you,and play the system...you win 100 and go home....you lose 200 go home!!

all bad and good systems are times that go down and up...go with flow
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Dutchie on February 01, 2017, 10:29:29 PM
Atlantis,tested it out on 2 shoes baccarat , random generator.Plus 7 both times. Biggest drawdown was 11 units. :applause:
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: alrelax on February 02, 2017, 12:05:55 AM
2 Shoes?  That is impressive!  Meaning like....1.....2?

Or do you mean 2 such as 200K or 2 million shoes????
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Dutchie on February 02, 2017, 12:55:08 AM
  The funny part is its two more than you tested! :applause:
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: alrelax on February 02, 2017, 01:11:22 AM
Just curious as to how you definitively know that?
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: caddy on February 02, 2017, 07:22:50 PM
I tested "dominant pairs" and it does not even come close to making a profit.

Forget this one.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: alrelax on February 02, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
The problem with so many systems and triggers in baccarat is they work sometimes and other times they do not.  The experienced player will be able to 'somewhat' employ his own protocols as to when those possibilities have a greater chance to work or not. 

I hope I said that without offending anyone, thanks!
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: Dutchie on February 03, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
 Caddy and  Alrelax,the important thing is giving members a free line to post any methods they have.I am personally not expecting to find a "Holy Grail".It would be great wouldn't it.Still I respect the posters effort.In Atlantis defence he did say it was a " fun" method.On any given day it may work,just like other methods.
Title: Re: Dominant Pairs
Post by: ProfessorSlot on February 03, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: alrelax on February 02, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
The problem with so many systems and triggers in baccarat is they work sometimes and other times they do not.  The experienced player will be able to 'somewhat' employ his own protocols as to when those possibilities have a greater chance to work or not. 

I hope I said that without offending anyone, thanks!

I 100% agree on what you just said. So many system that we don't even know what does it do in baccarat. Some work and some don't. Make a move the other actives don't know how but they automatically activates.