anyone knowing how the great one is doing on bacc as he made it a part of retirement?
I was wondering this myself. His two weeks notice should have been up 3 weeks ago.
Flat betting a 53.5% win rate is phenomenal if it holds up over the long run. Sometimes increasing your unit size is not an accurate definition of flat betting. Regardless of that, I can't see how this 53.5% could be considered the long run or he would have retired years ago.
I wish plenty of people ill will, but have no desire to see GR8 destroyed financially hitting a losing streak. But that's my concern. To me, it seems as if he should start closing in on a 46.5% win rate. And "sometimes increasing unit size after some losses" is not flat betting. It is a recipe for disaster, especially when one believes they should win more often, and then gets lured into disbelief as their ability to successfully trend disintegrates.
I'm interested in knowing if he can stay zeroed in on his intuitive trending. Because there certainly is no mathematical edge.
Hello fellas....I must thank you for your interest, and with that in mind:
Yes, I've been "pro" now going on three weeks. I do have a family and the related commitments; and so I limit myself to two nights/three days in either Atlantic City or Connecticut. I believe that is surely enough casino time in order to achieve my desired win goal for the week.
Well, bottom line....I've been right for 2 out of the 3 weekly trips. I won the first trip (12 units...it's funny...I lost my very first session as a "pro", but won each subsequent session); I lost on my second trip 4 units, losing 2 out of 5 sessions....sidenote: I'd normally at least break even if I win 3 of 5 sessions, but, unfortunately, those losing session were #3 and the last one, #5. But I just got back last night from my third trip, and I won 4 out of 5 sessions, winning another 12 units.
Anyone notice the commonality in that report? My goal is to win, after all expenses, 12 units for the week. (Please bear in mind that my "week" consists only of roughly 5 sessions.) I am a conservative Baccarat player, with the patience and discipline of a saint. But, that said, my unit sizes are, shall I say, sufficiently rewarding. But, that said part 2, my loss limits are rather tight as well, as you can see.
And so I've begun my journey onto this "roller-coaster" called "pro Baccarat". Yes, it truly is an up-and-down ride. But, my friends, that roller coaster ride is a fearless one for the 'prepared' player; in fact, it is rather expected. And so it goes.
I must say: I'm lovin' it. Is it the same income as when I was working? Absolutely not, and never will be...I always made a nice living at my profession, thank Goodness. But I wasn't expecting to match that income, and I'm fine with what I'm making now....wait, let me take that back just a bit....I am disappointed with trip #2, my losing trip....and, frankly, I simply will not allow that to happen too often. I don't mind "shoe setbacks" or even "session setbacks", but "trip setbacks" are not acceptable. In that regard, I am working towards the solution.
In fact, it's funny about this game (although, I bet that's part of its appeal)....we're FOREVER working to "perfect" our Bac games. I wouldn't have it any other way. Bottom line: gotta WIN. Everything else is just pure baloney....you must WIN over the long term. It's a result-orientated deal....you gotta come out ahead, or you'll simply drown over the long run.
But, that said, you've also got to learn to separate that "must win" mentality from each hand, each bet, each shoe, and each session. That's a pressure, my friends, that'll do more to push you down than it ever will to rise you up. So it's a "long term" approach that one must take to this game that'll see the player much more relaxed at the tables and much more confident in their over-all Bac game and the success that can accompany it, if only they remain patient and disciplined.
As always, my friends, I wish it for all of you. Stay well.
So glad the transition is going well for you :)
Dennis
Thanks, Dennis, you know I always wish the best for you as well.
Like I said, it's pretty much everything I'd expected. The biggest (and best) difference: my casino time has expanded tremendously, and that plays into directly into two of my strengths: being patient and disciplined.
I mention P & D alot....ever wonder why?:
Because it plays into everything that is RIGHT about this game. Disciplined play is about playing only your proven plays, your very best bet selection process; while your patience allows you to await the "triggers" that put you onto those preferred plays and, of course, "no-betting" those "in-between" periods.
Combined with a conservative money-management plan built around your average variances (translation: a calculated formula for any bet sizing "adjustments"), and you'd find yourself to be "one tough out" for any casino.
Stay well, my friend.
Good job GR8. Thanks for coming in here and commenting.
I figured you would spend some immediate time with the family but still be anxious to get at the tables. Here, no news is usually bad news. And apparently the suspense was getting to some of us.
It must have been one helluva test of your psyche to lose your very first session. Murphy's Law you know..... And still another test to accept a 'trip' loss on your second trip.
However, you have always been correct with the importance of patience and discipline.
Far be it for me to offer any advice, but don't put too much pressure on the intolerance of losing trips if you are still making forward progress over all. +20 units is excellent.
Glad to hear of your success and I wish you continued success.
Everyone knows not to believe a single word of yours, Johno, so you'd probably be best served to cower on back to your dense private forum. At least there, my friend, it must be good to be King.
But it won't happen here, or at any legitimate Bac forum, because you are now and forever will be "persona non grata"; treated as the substandard element that you are. Or maybe that's a misconception....could it be just a public outcry on these internet forums for some personal help? If that's the case, PM me and I will try to assist you off of the ledge that you're about to jump off of. I know you for enough years to know that somewhere, deep down inside, there might actually exist a real human being.
Reach out, Johno, and I will respond in kind.
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Reach out, Johno, and I will respond in kind.
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Quote from: WalterMittyBUUUUT, the way I trend, I will catch certain trends that most of you out there would be left scratching their heads over. I look for things that most bac players haven't yet dreamed about.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=651&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
And this tool is driving the bus on behalf of the board?
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unblock me from pm please.
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And this tool is driving the bus on behalf of the board?
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Jealousy is but a wasted emotion that will lead you nowhere, Johno.
It is a proven fact that while I've been a most esteemed member of every Bac forum in which I contributed, you, on the other hand, have been suspended and expelled from every single one. And numerous times, at that, because you've employed countless aliases on all of these forums, each one more despised than the next.
Me? I've been "gr8player" on each forum, as I've never needed to hide in shame or deceive anyone with aliases. Can you, Mr Rolex Watch/ Johno/ Carlo/ Egalite/ the list goes on and on, just like your expulsions....can you say the same? Of course not.
Why is that? Why the need for dozens of forum aliases? Who, exactly, are you trying to fool? What sort of deception are you up to now?
You're so jealous of my status in these forums that you seek, at every twist and turn, to attack me as quickly and as often as you can. It's grown old already. Anyone whose been around these forums already knows that the TRUTH of gr8player will FOREVER overshadow the LIES of you and all your aliases combined.
So, for the sake of all members, give it up already. Haven't you been beaten down enough already, or are you the same glutton for punishment here in these forums as you are at the Baccarat tables? You should be ashamed of yourself....a grown man acting like a complete fool, who's really only fooling himself.
Go back to your own forum, where you can practice your double zigzag/template/multi-line labbys to your hearts content. Nobody can bother you there, all you need do is remove them. Presto! You're the king, queen, and the joker over there.
You don't need any more humiliation, Johno, you really don't. You are, truly, the laughing stock of every forum that you've ever been associated with. And, lastly, know this: You will never, ever be able to take me down with you. I am head and shoulders above you, both in real Baccarat play and in LIFE.
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WHAT you had to leave the WoV before Shackford was about to instigate a rule change to get rid of you, as you were a laughing stock. Who cleaned up the GG site from the scammers, not you. Esteemed? Oh yeah on Bac-Labs, who accumulated me, likes, kudos etc on that stupid point system that was used?
You are now more irrational than ever, my guess due to the stress of being unemployed. While I may use multiple ID's as does most, at least I don't hide in real life, avoiding anybody who offers to meet up, what have you got to hide Roberta? Somebody even offered you a quick 10K on the Wiz site, you acted like a rabbit caught in the headlights, fancy that GR8 turning down the offer to make a quick 10k in 3 shoes? Yeah we all know why you ran scared, because when the push came to the shove, you would never be able to produce and the fantasy would have been exposed, the internet party well and truly over.
Jealous of your status? Jesus, you're a half baked fruit cake, being polite and calling everybody "my friend" doesn't bring home he bacon, won't make people slicker players. You have no "real world friends" Walter, which is why you post so much dribble over the years, your crave the recognition, need the attention because in the real world, you simply don't get any and still feel guilty about ruining your life by giving the casino's a quarter of a million dollars. Just think how your life coulda/woulda/shoulda turned out had you never gambled!!!
Yeah Robert I'm seriously so jealous of somebody who perhaps has more cyber-friends, not that he'll ever offer to meet any of them at the tables. There's a few Foxwood players on this forum, just like there were many AC players on the Wiz site, I recall they offered to meet you'. moral support don't pay the bills as you will find out soon enough
The weasel excuses you invented was laughable as always, what are you scared of Walter, your plays, your bet amount?? One time it was $400 per hand, then that got downgraded to $100 (I have the posts), damn shame I don't have that email were you confessed you bet $10 per hand, you're turning into another spike.
You're too far gone, been regurgitating the same old basically nothing for the last 10 years, go do your thing, your yesterday's stale news. Kinda obvious now you don't have a regular income, things are really eating away at you, that there exists a forum related to Baccarat and you can't even see it. No amount of begging, badgering, silly offers of help (you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours) is ever going to gain you access, capish. Now ain't that just a darn shame, maybe all the internet friends you have gathered over the years will help you out, when a push comes to a shove.
My advice to you is this; as your money becomes tighter, don't dwell on the 250 large
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Quote from: Rolex-Watch on June 13, 2015, 01:20:44 PM
No amount of begging, badgering, silly offers of help (you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours) is ever going to gain you access, capish.
Wait....oh, my gosh....are you saying that I'm not allowed to join your forum, Johno? Oh my gosh....how am I going to learn how to bet BBPP (double ZZ) over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I going to learn the 3-column, 4-column, 75-column bet selection to bet over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I ever going to learn how to bet for a set template over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I going to learn how to form 37 labby lines so that I can try to recoup my vast losses until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll???!!! How will I ever sleep tonight knowing that I cannot gain access to some psychopath's web-site?
You, my friend, bury yourself deeper and deeper each and every time that you even attempt to assail my character and my good name. And you know why that is, Johno?: It's because your a lying, deceitful, conniving, psychopathic L.O.S.E.R.!!! And everyone knows it, and that's just killing you, because everyone saw straight through all those aliases you invented.
Stop trying to knock me down all in the vain attempt to stand on my shoulders in order rise in status. It ain't never gonna happen for you matter how hard you try, because you lay your baloney out like dirty laundry every time you log on to this site. You fool no one over here.
Go back to your web-site. You're the king, the queen, and the joker all rolled up into one over there.
I'm giving you a choice, Johno: Either contribute something of value here....I mean, put something in, make an addition, rather than keep on taking and just making yourself a distraction....or high-tail back to your own site, where you can talk to yourself all day. Your choice....choose wisely. You want to remain here, then get on board and do the right thing for once in your life.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on June 13, 2015, 01:20:44 PMnot that he'll ever offer to meet any of them at the tables. There's a few Foxwood players on this forum, just like there were many AC players on the Wiz site, I recall they offered to meet you'.
I, for one don't like playing with other gamblers unless I am playing partners. Makes me nervous to ahve someone watching my play. I guess I feel pressured somehow. Maybe Gr8 feels the same way.
However, I am happy to meet other players to say hello and even share ideas. I have suggested to Gr8 that we meet up sometime. Apparently he frequents MoSun as well.
We likely play in a similar fashion and t would be fun to share ideas in general. Also it would be a good to just have a meeting of the minds since we haven't always seen eye to eye. He has never even responded to my PM. I can understand guys wanting anonymity but generally those types are not posting on a website year after year.
One would think a guy who was an internet "friend" for so many years wouldn't mind saying hello.
J
Yup, time for the Guinness and cashew again, hey hey.
Quote from: Jimske on June 13, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
I, for one don't like playing with other gamblers unless I am playing partners. Makes me nervous to ahve someone watching my play. I guess I feel pressured somehow. Maybe Gr8 feels the same way.
Jimske, you could have, and should have, ended your post right there.
Look, I enjoy these Bac forums, and always have, in spite of certain obviously "unsavory company". But I feel that it's only a part of the "price of admission" in joining these public forums, and so I choose to deal with it.
But what I simply will not EVER choose to deal with is to meet up with ANYONE from any public internet forum. I have a number of very valid reasons for maintaining my anonymity at the Baccarat tables, most especially from complete strangers.
That said, I generally frequent the same casinos continuously, and I do engage a myriad of other players THAT I KNOW and have FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE of.
But meet someone that I know only from the other side of an anonymous keyboard? An absolute non-starter for me.
I should think that you're an intelligent enough man to respect those feelings.
Stay well.
Quote from: gr8player on June 13, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
Wait....oh, my gosh....are you saying that I'm not allowed to join your forum, Johno? Oh my gosh....how am I going to learn how to bet BBPP (double ZZ) over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I going to learn the 3-column, 4-column, 75-column bet selection to bet over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I ever going to learn how to bet for a set template over and over again until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll; or how am I going to learn how to form 37 labby lines so that I can try to recoup my vast losses until I'm getting so buried with it that I must go on tilt and lose my entire bankroll???!!! How will I ever sleep tonight knowing that I cannot gain access to some psychopath's web-site?
You might learn how
not to gift $250000 to the casino's. Defo worth the admission price.
The thing is Roberta, you have no idea what is on the board, what concepts, what chit-chat is taking place. We could be discussing mechanical trending all forms of MM, trip reports galore, including scans of actually played cards. "You don't know what you don't know", but it really appears it is eating you up, cos' you keep on mentioning it .
You don't want me to leave here, otherwise you wouldn't keep slagging mechanical modes of play at every opportunity, when the smart ones realize, there is no difference. If that doesn't work, then you start stealing my quotes to get a reaction "pay the cost of time rather than the cost of your bankroll", is one recent example.
The IQ of members at the WoV site is higher than most other boards, they sussed you out fairly quickly, just like I did back on GG, it doesn't really say a lot for those members who still can't see though the endless cr@p you spew over the years. One of which whom is no stranger, actually attends WoV annual dinners, could get other members to vouch for him, offered you a chance to make $10k inside 3 shoes. 10 large but you ran scared, we all figured why you turned him down, it was for no other reason other than you HAVE NOTHING, but bluster, you know it, the board knew it.
Then there are more attention seeking quotes;
QuoteTotals for Trip: Plus 2.5 Units (enough for your bus fare perhaps)
Frankly speaking, I have been approached to write a book on my Baccarat play. (That was one of the reasons that I had stopped posting my "trip reports".) But, I've decided against it. Why? Because I DID NOT INVENT THIS GAME!
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=490&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
For the last time, I do NOT bet $400 per hand. IF you must know, my initial unit size is $100, and I employ parlays (or partial parlays) that will see me bet to $200 or even $250. Now, occassionally, when my variance is showing stats that deem it necessary, I will raise my intial unit size to $200, and then my parlays will have me betting as high as $400, or even $500. But those occassions, Thank Goodness, are rare, indeed.
http://baccaratforums.com/t7003/thread-page-3/#post44691
Hmmmm, yesterday's session saw me net 9 units after commissions and tips. That $1800 kicks your $975 right in the behind, don't it?
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=990&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
That said, however, please understand this:
I will not enumerate my plays in this forum, not now and not ever.
I paid for my plays. Dearly. Money-wise. Time-wise. Blood, sweat, and tears-wise.
Do you think, for one second, that I'd just "give away" all I've worked so hard for lo these 20 years?
Do you think I would enumerate my plays for the casinos to see?
Do you think I'd enumerate my plays for ANYONE to see?
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board&topic=853&entry=
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A "suit" came down to watch us (my playing partner and myself) play. He was just observing, but made sure we knew that he was observing US. After the session was over, I walked over the CCC booth, and asked them one simple question: Can I, if I'm a consistent winner, be asked to leave by casino personnel? Their answer: No, sir, unless you are using a device or cheating. I said I was doing neither, and they told me not to worry about it. That's the last time I saw that "suit".
Another time, when I had asked a casino boss to "check my rating" because I was given unquestionably "short" comp dollars, I was told by him that it actually reads in their computer my EXPECTED WIN, not my EXPECTED LOSS. (Somehow, apparently, they calculate what you're generally expected to lose on a per session basis.) What I felt was amazing was that they actually had an "expected win" percentage for me in their computer.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=597&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
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Sidenote #2: I'm leaving the parking lot at the AC hotel when the "attendant" says to me: "Wow, sir. Very nice. You are a very good player. I see you don't bet every hand and are very patient. Very nice." This from the freakin' parking lot attendant! When the heck did she see me play? Isn't she working? You could've knocked me over with a feather. Still, to speak honestly......it felt good.
Nope. True story. I was in disbelief myself, but my playing partner heard it as well. She did look a bit familiar to me, and is Asian. She might be what I call a "hanger". If you frequent the bac sections of the casinos in AC, you'll get to know the "hangers", a term I use to describe the people who are there just to watch the play, as if it were a movie. Maybe it's because of the larger bets made at the bac tables, or they just want to get close enough to the action that they can "smell it", or, maybe, as I suspect this woman, trying to "observe and learn". Who knows. But, yeah SF, it surely was "weird".
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=648&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
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You see, I have certain trend plays that, frankly, will never see the light of day on this or any public board. That's why I laugh when I read certain comments about "my plays", "my signals", or "my triggers". Suffice it to say (and listen up good here): My signals/triggers VARY from shoe-to-shoe, always CONFORMING TO the results that THIS SHOE is DISPOSED TO GIVING. Does it work all the time? Of course, not. Just look at the first shoe of my second session. I lost 6 units. And the begining of the next shoe was difficult for me, as well. BUUUUT, the way I trend, I will catch certain trends that most of you out there would be left scratching their heads over. I trend EACH SHOE SEPARATELY. I look for things that most bac players haven't yet dreamed about.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=651&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
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None of "my shields" injured? Are you kidding me? Oh, how I wish that were true. I've LOST more money at this game than I'd ever care to count, especially in my "early years", when I ONLY THOUGHT I has it "all figured out". Ever hear that expression: "A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing?" Well, it's true. It can be.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=725&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
I do realize that I might sound a bit "too cocky" in many of my posts, but I trust that people realize that I don't mean it as an "ego" thing as much as a "pride" thing. I spent a lot of money and many hours of my time to get my game to where it is at today, and I take pride in my competitiveness and perserverance. If it comes across as cocky, well, while I can totally understand that, I should hope that most of you guys can tell the difference.
This game is "changing" for me, my friends, right in front of my eyes. I see it, and "they" know I see it, but they don't care. Furthermore, by continuing to "crow about" and "elaborate on it" here in a public forum, it could "change the game" for us all, and that's not a good thing for any of us.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=957&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board so gr8's play is going to change the game of Baccarat
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I must tell you; yesterday morning I was going over my Baccarat cards (as per usual on Sunday mornings) and I took notice of a "lagging play" that I'm currently utilizing. I will keep a keen eye on it, and it may warrant substitution. I don't know yet. I should say also that it is difficult to warrant any changes while I'm winning; the "why fix it if it ain't broken" theory. But, I'm a realist, and will not fool myself into thinking that an under-performing play will suffice. It won't, especially not long term.
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board&topic=957
Sorry, guestposter, but I decided a while ago to discontinue saving my scorecards. I'd need to build another room in my house if I kept bringing them home. Now, what I do is take them with me and evaluate them immediately either in the hotel room or at dinner. Then, I'll transpose my findings on a separate piece of paper. In this manner, I am able to consolidate an entire "trip's worth" of scorecards onto one sheet of paper, simply using my "summarizations".
http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=460&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board
Sure we all understand and can feel your pain, a case of Wende~itist is prevalent here.
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Quote from: gr8player on June 13, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
I'm giving you a choice, Johno: Either contribute something of value here....I mean, put something in, make an addition, rather than keep on taking and just making yourself a distraction....or high-tail back to your own site, where you can talk to yourself all day. Your choice....choose wisely. You want to remain here, then get on board and do the right thing for once in your life.
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Okay I will now post something of value. Recently you preached to HBS about the Labby needing to win 50% of one's bets. Get it right
Mr Teacher, it is in fact 33% plus the number of elements in the starting string.You also corrected HBS that he was not using a Labby just because he wrote down figures. Well also do the same, but you accused me of using a Labby LOL.
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BTW you don't meet up with anybody, because you have plenty to hide, I know that and you simply are afraid to admit it, because without this Baccarat waffle, you have nothing, no ego, no life, zada zilch. Now your job has gone puff, this is the last thing you have left to cling too. Take solace from the fact, you join a few likewise souls on this forum.
On a serious note, it's obvious you are
begging for morsels (did you lose?, if you're playing DBL as recently mentioned on this forum, then you will getting your a$$ handed on a plate most shoes), trip reports, how I'm doing and the like. All is revealed, "too bad, so sad" you can't access such info.
It's not 37 Labby strings BTW, it's actually 36 with a 3.75 Col template deploying virtual regressing symmetrical racket techniques that makes one unbeatable and the game there for the taking. But don't you worry about all that, keep bamboozling the good folk here with your sermons, you have many friends here.
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Don't dwell too much on you know what, eh!!
lol Johno we gotta hang out sometime. Let me know if ever in the States m8.
If I come stateside it would only be Sarasota Fl in a few months. That puts me in ADulay terrority (Seminole casino), so I'll be quiet as he is a Glock expert and I don't wanna be a fackin statistical accident
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Sarasota is BEAU-TI-FUL. Went there twice to tennis camp as a teenager and went twice more recently. You may not want to leave there. Check out Casey Key, Longboat Key, Siesta Key.
Quote from: Jimske on June 13, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
I, for one don't like playing with other gamblers unless I am playing partners. Makes me nervous to ahve someone watching my play. I guess I feel pressured somehow. Maybe Gr8 feels the same way.
I met a board member recently, everything worked out fine. He left me to do my thing, I had somebody to chat to if I wanted break or at the end of my session, then we had a great old natter taking shop and casinos in general. He knew the score, perhaps other don't.
If somebody is sharing a table with me, we can chat away, cool with that, been in that situation many times. $10k is not a sum to be sneezed at and if a respected member of the Wizard site, whom many can vouch for as being above board beyond repute, slaps down a $10k a 3 shoe duration challenge and you decline after you have spouted on about some mystical 54% strike rate while claiming to be an above average experienced 50-50 guesser.
If somebody bets $100 per hand, making 12 units on a good trip, yet turns down the opportunity to make 100 units due to a side bet. Well there really is one one conclusion isn't there, it has nothing to do with personal safety, more to do with the said person not being able to do what they claim on some anonymous internet gambling forum (read = rabbit + headlight).
Quote from: gr8player on June 13, 2015, 10:30:42 PM
Jimske, you could have, and should have, ended your post right there.
Look, I enjoy these Bac forums, and always have, in spite of certain obviously "unsavory company". But I feel that it's only a part of the "price of admission" in joining these public forums, and so I choose to deal with it.
But what I simply will not EVER choose to deal with is to meet up with ANYONE from any public internet forum. I have a number of very valid reasons for maintaining my anonymity at the Baccarat tables, most especially from complete strangers.
That said, I generally frequent the same casinos continuously, and I do engage a myriad of other players THAT I KNOW and have FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE of.
But meet someone that I know only from the other side of an anonymous keyboard? An absolute non-starter for me.
I should think that you're an intelligent enough man to respect those feelings.
Stay well.
I didn't say I didn't respect those feelings. I just think it a little strange. One would think that after all this time you would at least have more "first hand" knowledge of me than some persons you might meet in the casino from time to time. After all you continually refer to me as your "friend." Now you've hurt my feelings.
Like Johno, I'd be happy to say hello to any fellow gambler - even Johno as long as he wasn't packing! ;-) So it's obvious it has got nothing to do with this "anonymous keyboard" stuff. Heck, I'd buy you a Guiness and some cashews! hey hey!
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on June 14, 2015, 01:47:53 AM
If I come stateside it would only be Sarasota Fl in a few months. That puts me in ADulay terrority (Seminole casino), so I'll be quiet as he is a Glock expert and I don't wanna be a fackin statistical accident
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Not to worry. I'll be the perfect gentleman.
Sarasota is north of me but I could find my way to make a special trip up there for a quick meet and greet over a beer.
I'll still be packing, but in your case I'll at least hide it for the day.
If worse comes to worse, I'll drag you over to my range and you can blast away all afternoon. [smiley]giga/OK.gif[/smiley]
AD
this is more for gr8 ---Jimske is a crumudgean but also a good player--mostly a grinder . I have played with him in mo-sun and foxwoods several times.....lots of fun playing with him and then sharing bacc stories -----
Years back I invited a cat from the gamblingglen to come eyeball my baccarats play. Sadly, the cat turned coconut so I won't be doing that again. But, I would be happy to talk baccarats with serious cats over a coupla few pints, hey hey.
Quote from: ADulay on June 14, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
Not to worry. I'll be the perfect gentleman.
Sarasota is north of me but I could find my way to make a special trip up there for a quick meet and greet over a beer.
I'll still be packing, but in your case I'll at least hide it for the day.
If worse comes to worse, I'll drag you over to my range and you can blast away all afternoon. [smiley]giga/OK.gif[/smiley]
AD
Blasting away at a range is about all it's good for. Glock? From your pic I would have thought you were a Colt man. Anyway "45 ACP" hasn't been around for 150 years!
Quote from: Tomla on June 14, 2015, 09:59:15 PM
this is more for gr8 ---Jimske is a crumudgean but also a good player--mostly a grinder . I have played with him in mo-sun and foxwoods several times.....lots of fun playing with him and then sharing bacc stories -----
Tomla scolded me for being mean to Gr8. Curmudgeon? I had to look that up to see exactly what it meant. I'm offended. I don't think I'm quite that far gone. A bit cantankerous maybe. Old? Ill tempered? Nah. Harsh? - ok, yeah, even my friends say I am a little too harsh. But I'm funny! Don't believe me? Ask my ex-wife. She says, "Yeah, he's a regular riot!" ;D
Sorry Gr8, it's really not personal. Anyway I would spot you a mile away at MoSun IF you go there. If you do then it's just because you don't go on weekdays so maybe we just never cross paths. I've played well over a thousand shoes at MoSun and pretty much recognize any new non-Asian face.
J
Jimske, no worries, it's all good....
In fact, I was in Mohegan yesterday (Monday). I took my wife for the day so she could spend my mounting comp dollars in the shops there.....she met me at the Bac tables carrying 5, 6 bags from Sephora and Brookstone.
So I had the time to play only a couple of shoes: First shoe I was plus 4 units (was a plus 6, but lost my last two bets and quit the shoe); second shoe wasn't as good for my preferred plays and I finished it at a minus 1 unit; that's about when my wife arrived, so I didn't play another shoe, finishing the trip at a plus 3 units (2 3/4 after comm & tip). Not a bad day's pay in anyone's book.
I don't go to Mohegan as often as I frequent AC, but I have been going there for a few years....so, yeah, there's a good possibility that we've already chatted up at the tables at some time or another. But it so happens that I get along with the Asian players as well, and I'm conversive with many of them as well.
Take care.
Quote from: gr8player on June 16, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Jimske, no worries, it's all good....
In fact, I was in Mohegan yesterday (Monday). I took my wife for the day so she could spend my mounting comp dollars in the shops there.....she met me at the Bac tables carrying 5, 6 bags from Sephora and Brookstone.
So I had the time to play only a couple of shoes: First shoe I was plus 4 units (was a plus 6, but lost my last two bets and quit the shoe); second shoe wasn't as good for my preferred plays and I finished it at a minus 1 unit; that's about when my wife arrived, so I didn't play another shoe, finishing the trip at a plus 3 units (2 3/4 after comm & tip). Not a bad day's pay in anyone's book.
I don't go to Mohegan as often as I frequent AC, but I have been going there for a few years....so, yeah, there's a good possibility that we've already chatted up at the tables at some time or another. But it so happens that I get along with the Asian players as well, and I'm conversive with many of them as well.
Take care.
I guess the implication is that you play really big units for 2 3/4 units win to not be a "bad day's pay in anyone's book." I guess it's all relative. One man's ceiling is another man's floor. My base bet is either $15 or $25 so $41.55 or $68.75 wouldn't be a great day in my book. Frankly even at black $275.00 wouldn't be a really good day's pay for me. Wouldn't be a bad day's pay as you say but ANY win is not "bad." What's good is another story.
I don't get the points at Bacc I used to get at BJ (thousands). Since the lay offs a few years ago MoSun really cracking down on points. I'm happy to get lunch and my gas paid for! A person really has to put in the time, not just the average bet size to get a lot of points at Bacc. So even with my average bet size around $40 or $50 and all the time I put in I still don't buy my wife David Yurman anymore. I guess you must be flat betting $500 at least to accumulate lots of points? Great! No reason why you should keep your job!
Unlikely we've ever crossed paths, Gr8. You know these places get the "regulars." I know all of the non-Asian regulars (most of the Asian ones, too) either by site or acquaintance since I've played well over 1000 shoes there. Guarantee we've never "chatted up" at the tables. I basically play my game and go home. I'd spot a non-regular a mile away and if I chat I usually ask people where they're from etc. Only natural when you meet someone.
Take care.
J
Quote from: Jimske on June 16, 2015, 02:01:43 PM
I guess the implication is that you play really big units for 2 3/4 units win to not be a "bad day's pay in anyone's book." I guess it's all relative. One man's ceiling is another man's floor. I guess you must be flat betting $500 at least to accumulate lots of points? Great! No reason why you should keep your job!
A.) I couldn't care less about any of the "points". I accumulate them over time (Mohegan has no expiration date, unlike the Borgata....6 months shelf life) and then have my wife and/or children use them as they please.
B.) "$500 units"....no way. More like 100 - 200. (It wouldn't pay for me to play anything less; especially given my relatively conservative playing style.)
Quote from: gr8player on June 16, 2015, 05:11:35 PM
A.) I couldn't care less about any of the "points". I accumulate them over time (Mohegan has no expiration date, unlike the Borgata....6 months shelf life) and then have my wife and/or children use them as they please.
B.) "$500 units"....no way. More like 100 - 200. (It wouldn't pay for me to play anything less; especially given my relatively conservative playing style.)
Amazing, considering you posted on this forum you are going pro after
getting laid off left work. So that means prior to
getting laid off left work, you must have been betting bigger units, $400 a hand maybe, well I guess not because you alrready back-tracked on that one a few years back.
This is the thing "oh mighty great player", nobody knows what to believe, all I have my is word and what you told me you were betting many years ago, not that it matters, we can all be a Walter Mitty on the internet.