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[Albalaha]

Well, you guys always miss a point. Whenever you get any claim of HG from any baccarat/roulette pro/expert/seller just ask him two things:

1. Can his method survive a case of 25 hits in 100 trials or 65 hits in 200 trials whenever they come? Even if it can survive, what will be the drawdown figure and can we get to win a net win if things merely go normal thereafter?

2. If not, can his method eliminate any probability of getting such bad streaks?

     If he says yes to any of them, just ask him to do these sessions and give feedback on results on each: http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/

If he beats them all with any given methodology, I will provide him just 30k random outcomes of mine to do with the same approach. If he beats that all too, positively and without getting superbig DDs, the system is worth playing, for sure, for any price.

[Garfield]

Well, you guys always miss a point. Whenever you get any claim of HG from any baccarat/roulette pro/expert/seller just ask him two things:

1. Can his method survive a case of 25 hits in 100 trials or 65 hits in 200 trials whenever they come? Even if it can survive, what will be the drawndown figure and can we get to win a net win if things merely go normal thereafter?

2. If not, can his method eliminate any probability of getting such bad streaks?

     If he says yes to any of them, just ask him to do these sessions and give feedback on results on each: http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/

If he beats them all with any given methodology, I will provide him just 30k random outcomes of mine to do with the same approach. If he beats that all too, positively and without getting superbig DDs, the system is worth playing, for sure, for any price.

answer : Well as far as I aware of his system, he stop after getting 3 LIAR so it rather hard to prove this. And also his system based on the outcome of P/B, where in your link it is just W/L registry (CMIIW)

The last live report is on April. Haven't seen the newest (May). His website also improve significantly since the last time I visited.

Maybe he need more cash to cover the website's overhead cost?

His cartoon character is one of his student's. I dare to assume he might have worked together with his student. Need more cash to feed two bulldogs. LoL

[Albalaha]

Just ask him the two questions. Whatever way he picks his bets, can he handle those cases or avoid getting them? If he says yes, is he ready for a 30k placed bet simulation only on random shoes, as he suggests. Ask this to anybody claiming to beat the game. Half will wet their pants. No jokes.

[Garfield]

Btw recently I found another one in Youtube. The title is "baccarat 2016" by some Indonesian guy. The author : trik menang baccarat (baccarat wining trick)

He said his bs could manage to get 5:1 ratio of winning. He posted a demo video on live play. And he sells it for only Rp.500.000 (almost equal to USD 38,5)

Well...maybe we all might want to start a company selling ALL the trick we have here. LoL 

ps. if anyone interested with it, I could help you to contact him. 

[alrelax]

No endorsements of Dr. Tom's 'WHATEVER' it is.  I read some of his website. 

Lots of common sense and lots of self-knwoedlge is required for it to even work "SOMETIMES"

Before anyone of you changes around what I said, I said:

SOMETIMES it can work and your will need common sense when to employ it or stop it.  But then again, that is with most things like this anyway!

Period.  Nothing else to really discuss worthwhile.

And as far as pricing, it is subjective to what one's business demands to operate.  It is the same for many various kinds of products and services.  It is worth what the buyers will pay for it, nothing more and nothing less. 

[Jimske]

Well, you guys always miss a point.

Actually I think it is you who are missing the point - some others, too.  The point is that Dr. Tom is likely NOT claiming this is a holy grail, secret sauce methodology. 

Full disclosure.  I know and am friendly with Dr. Tom.  Have even played with him and his wife.  Haven't spoken to him in a while and I do have the first two two of his methods.  If this is one of them I don't know.

And as far as pricing, it is subjective to what one's business demands to operate.  It is the same for many various kinds of products and services.  It is worth what the buyers will pay for it, nothing more and nothing less.

Exactly.

So Albalaha, like any other strategy it needs adjustments on the fly when not performing and is only a base or reference point.  We need a reason to place a bet or not.  Dr. tom has been in this game a loooong time and is serious about predicting.  My guess is that his methods are as good as the trend capture of the derivative roads.

His first two methods were about waiting for some dominance having to do with placement and W/L registry then making bets based on those trends.  It got complicated.  He also was predominantly a flat bettor and quick to leave a shoe with a few units win or lose.

Anyway, if you need a reference point then it's a good thing ton look at all and any strategy to decide what you like best.  If you want to buy them that's your business.  Apparently lots of people do!

J

[alrelax]

Few people are in the game a long time, and by a long time I mean over 5 years, but for sake of argument, let's just say 10 years. 

Baccarat will eat you up and kill you.  Don't believe me, keep playing it and trying for those larger wins. 

Now, if you win a few units or lose a few units and leave the casino until another time in the near future, you will survive the game.

If you think you could do anything else on a consistent basis, you are full of poo-poo and I will put thousands against your survival at the tables to keep playing with the same bankroll---adding to it from large wins---and also using some of the win money for your enjoyment and living, etc.,  you will go broke and ruin your life.

BTW, why isn't anyone still at the tables wagering large bankrolls, consistently winning, everyday, every week, whatever, year after year after year.  It cannot be done.  Why are you any different.  Oh excuse me, 3 Bankers, followed by a Player, followed by 3 Bankers, followed by a Player.  You say wager $5,000.00 on a Banker next, oh okay, thanks.  Or how about the one with 14 Bankers in a row and everyone tells me to wager huge on the Player every single time, because it has to cut back to Player.  Oh oaky.  I see.

As far as predicting, we all can do it at times.  Period. The end.

[Albalaha]

I do not understand what do you mean by a HG? Do you think a HG will start showering money on you without getting any drawdown? A HG is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net result of fighting with randomness and breaks the concept that a player has to lose ultimately whatever he does. Any method with negative progression usually win till a so-called Run from hell comes and wipes all the efforts. If a method that relies upon progression tanks badly and loses all the winnings so far, it is not a method but a joke.
        You said you have experienced his systems. Can you get that simulated on random sessions to prove if it actually holds?
No method can claim to win flat bet. It is impossible per se. Can his way of picking bets create any advantage by itself?

[Jimske]

I do not understand what do you mean by a HG? Do you think a HG will start showering money on you without getting any drawdown? A HG is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net result of fighting with randomness and breaks the concept that a player has to lose ultimately whatever he does. Any method with negative progression usually win till a so-called Run from hell comes and wipes all the efforts. If a method that relies upon progression tanks badly and loses all the winnings so far, it is not a method but a joke.
        You said you have experienced his systems. Can you get that simulated on random sessions to prove if it actually holds?
No method can claim to win flat bet. It is impossible per se. Can his way of picking bets create any advantage by itself?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.  pay attention!

[alrelax]

is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net

I have a news flash for everyone!  It is extremely easy to sit down and win a couple or a few units.  Happens all the time.

I always see people at the casinos I go to, sit down and win a couple of units.  None of them leave, none, ZERO.  Does not happen.  I do see them leave when they occasionally win $10k on a $2k buy in or $5k on a $5k buy in or $2.5k on a $300 buy in.  But I see players win a few units all the time in the beginning or get even 3 or 5 or 8 times over in the course of a shoe or two or three and then win a couple of units. They DO NOT ever leave. 

You talk about all these elaborate rhythms and progressions and positive this and negative that.  Bull poo-poo.  Mean zip at the table, nothing.  Because people won't leave with $225.00, say 3 units on a $500 buy in or anything of the like. 

And why not, because of the steakhouse, the bar, the club, the entertainment, the suite or rooms, the food.......all for free------LOL.   Oh yeah, the chips in the rack, those rows of all the orange or yellow (depending on where you are at), those rows and rows of purple and black.  Hell, some of you are so naïve in your gambling you do not even know tricks of the house.  I was at a midi table over the weekend.  Everyone was winning, everyone up huge.  No one leaving.  Almost all was playing with green and black.  Floor person has most of the green and black removed and replaces with purple and orange.  Every time someone wagers say $650 in green and wins, the dealer pays with one purple and one black and two green.  Or the dealer takes the green ad pays in one orange and three black.  Just one example out of many things the house can do and will do. 

[Albalaha]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.  pay attention!

Are you endorsing him on a commission? You are defending him without giving any answer of the queries asked about what he does.

[alrelax]

I have no ties to the guy, never purchased the system or advise or course (whatever it actually is) and receive nothing from him regarding this.

I looked and read 70% of his website.  All common sense and can very well work, but the same thing can be learned on your own and usually lots quicker with more meaning.  However, some of us are very self-lacking when it comes to these things.  IMO his 'course' appears to be more worthy of purchase than anything else I have read about.  I have never purchased his stuff or anyone else's. 

Albalaha, at times you appear to come off as a mathematical wizard and rocket scientist, but you are not and never will be IMO and only IMO.  Your projection of anticipated wins or choosing the right side based up 'make up' strategy or what the shoe has not done yet---will also work sometimes and fail tremendously at an equal amount of times.  Unfortunately for the player almost anything in the way of a protocol will also do this at baccarat, it has to and nothing can always prevail.  If it did not the baccarat tables would NOT be in any casino let alone, their largest single drop (PROFIT) out of any table game period!!!!!!

People have either developed or found or copied something and put their claim to fame on it.  Advertised it, marketed it and developed a business around it.  It is really no different with most any kind of business.  Someone goes out and buys a lawnmower, an edger, a weed whacker, a hedge trimmer, shovels, rakes and misc.  Buys a pickup truck and gets a city permit.  Advertises his lawn care and maintenance service and develops slogans and material as to how his service is new and great, so much better than Joe Schmo's, etc., etc.  He is neither right or wrong.  It is business, advertising and how it is perceived by the public and potential customers. 

Something about an old saying in business, I think it goes, "He who climbs on in a tree and hollers is far better off then he who sits on the ground and says nothing"..............................

As far as all the stories of Dr. Tom's, we all have them, pretty normal for any gambler.  He just puts them into advertising and plies on those that are looking for assistance. 

Everything and/or anything can and will work sometimes, even VooDoo!  Seriously, 100%!!!!

[Albalaha]

Albalaha, at times you appear to come off as a mathematical wizard and rocket scientist, but you are not and never will be IMO and only IMO.  Your projection of anticipated wins or choosing the right side based up 'make up' strategy or what the shoe has not done yet---will also work sometimes and fail tremendously at an equal amount of times.  Unfortunately for the player almost anything in the way of a protocol will also do this at baccarat, it has to and nothing can always prevail.  If it did not the baccarat tables would NOT be in any casino let alone, their largest single drop (PROFIT) out of any table game period!!!!!!

Buddy,
              I am not a scientist or a PhD in mathematics or Statistics but I know the basics that is not something anybody can deny. Anything can work for time being but with the arrival of variance the same anything lose pants too. If anybody claims that his anything will do everything he should be able to answer the why too. One can not say, oh, no logic, it just works, try a shoe to see. On every claim of system I would like to ask the same questions:
1. Why the hell this way of playing should make any difference than just sticking to a random bet flat every trial?

2. How does your system do in the worst of worst that is inevitable to happen or if you claim that your methodology can filter the horrible runs out?

3. Can you dare your system to be simulated on random results for enough trials and prove your point?
I have talked in length to not less than a dozen authors of gambling systems; even those who are bestsellers. All are 

[21 Aces]

I think we have now arrived at bleeding edge of the argument of the winning baccarat player versus the approach that will crack baccarat 'In The Long Run'.

[alrelax]

What the hell is that orange thing, a foreign stoner's take on the legendary 'General Lee'?