Just checking to Dr. Tom's website. Apparently he has raised his course up to $4,500-$7,500 :o :o :o
Wonder why? ??? :))
Which site is that?
Quote from: Garfield on May 15, 2016, 05:22:23 AM
Just checking to Dr. Tom's website. Apparently he has raised his course up to $4,500-$7,500 :o :o :o
Wonder why? ??? :))
That's a very nice price, I must say, hey hey.
It amazes me that people come up with these ways of making money by taking it from the people but not using their systems to make the money at the tables?
I was naive enough to believe and buy a few of them!!
Cause some ppl DO desperate and hope to find a HG out there. Been there too.
Face to face training and then playing along in casino is not bad. Not too high price for a real player. If he offers money back on not proving his point, it is worth trying.
Only thing I am suspicious of is, none can bring in good luck by a system and in bad times all systems doom. In all over play, whatever you do, casino has to win from you in the long run. Anyone prove the contrary, casinos will go broke. I guarantee this.
I know someone that knows him and he got his money back -I guess some like it some don't but he did what he said he would
This system has been posted and tested thoroughly. It is like any other system. Works sometimes, other times no.
Quote from: marinetech on May 15, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
This system has been posted and tested thoroughly. It is like any other system. Works sometimes, other times no.
Really? By who? You? Tested thoroughly? What was the results and how man shoes?
Quote from: Garfield on May 15, 2016, 05:22:23 AM
Just checking to Dr. Tom's website. Apparently he has raised his course up to $4,500-$7,500 :o :o :o
Wonder why? ??? :))
He realized Gunas was getting upwards of 35k sometimes for his method so he finally woke up and realized lots of losing gamblers with deep pockets. Why should just the casinos make all the profit?
I've known him long time. I have two of his iterations but don't know if this is the next generation or what he is pushing now.
Quote from: Jimske on May 15, 2016, 11:20:54 PM
Really? By who? You? Tested thoroughly? What was the results and how man shoes?
It's no good. trust me, many people tried it after I posted it and through extensive correspondence and many runs at making it better, it's no better than flipping a coin.... If you had success with it, super......I (we) could not.
and he also made an alias (dr. tom) and asked me via messages to remove my statement of getting it through a friend in chicago! lol, wtf. He must not understand that chicago has a lot of people there. lol dr. tom is a systems seller. does it make him a bad person? no. is he ethical? that is up to you.
the same thing i say to everyone, i will say it one more time for those who don't understand.
jim made a reference of 35k some guy sells systems for. that is PEANUTS if the system really worked. I don't claim to have the most money or access to the most but one with reasonable credit, some savings, etc, would be able to string together some cash and parlay that into much more than 35k!
hell, i have credit cards with 50k limits and hundreds of thousands in total credit with credit lines, etc. So, if you have the golden goose, wtf is 700 or 4k when you can make 1000000000000000000x that?
you guys get fascinated by these system sellers who have the next best thing! lol, it's a ploy, nothing more....
If someone has the secret sauce lets meet at mohegan in ct, Ill wire in 50k and if you can show me it works, we can play in the high stakes room for REAL MONEY not the paltry 25/hand nonsense. I see a lot of talk, very little action....This alrelax guy i may meet in vegas when im there for the WSOP, lets see if he is legit. One thing for sure is I know I am, but are you?
Quote from: marinetech on May 15, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
and he also made an alias (dr. tom) and asked me via messages to remove my statement of getting it through a friend in chicago! lol, wtf. He must not understand that chicago has a lot of people there. lol dr. tom is a systems seller. does it make him a bad person? no. is he ethical? that is up to you.
the same thing i say to everyone, i will say it one more time for those who don't understand.
jim made a reference of 35k some guy sells systems for. that is PEANUTS if the system really worked. I don't claim to have the most money or access to the most but one with reasonable credit, some savings, etc, would be able to string together some cash and parlay that into much more than 35k!
hell, i have credit cards with 50k limits and hundreds of thousands in total credit with credit lines, etc. So, if you have the golden goose, wtf is 700 or 4k when you can make 1000000000000000000x that?
you guys get fascinated by these system sellers who have the next best thing! lol, it's a ploy, nothing more....
If someone has the secret sauce lets meet at mohegan in ct, Ill wire in 50k and if you can show me it works, we can play in the high stakes room for REAL MONEY not the paltry 25/hand nonsense. I see a lot of talk, very little action....This alrelax guy i may meet in vegas when im there for the WSOP, lets see if he is legit. One thing for sure is I know I am, but are you?
LOL. Are you a professional? 50k, huh? So that's 50 units, right? 100 units at $500? I don't think that's enough to prove any method, do you? But okay, wire it in, I'll give it a shot - probably will win, too since I usually do.
Thanks for the offer!
J
Quote from: Jimske on May 15, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
LOL. Are you a professional? 50k, huh? So that's 50 units, right? 100 units at $500? I don't think that's enough to prove any method, do you? But okay, wire it in, I'll give it a shot - probably will win, too since I usually do.
Thanks for the offer!
J
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Well, according to the bac doc he has the secret sauce right? if he didn't, why would he be selling? or better yet, what would he be selling if he didn't have the grail? or is he just a scammer looking for quick cash?
100 units? I have no idea. I do not have a winning system so i cannot comment on that....if someone has the sauce i have the cheese.. together we can make a helluva dip......
Well, you guys always miss a point. Whenever you get any claim of HG from any baccarat/roulette pro/expert/seller just ask him two things:
1. Can his method survive a case of 25 hits in 100 trials or 65 hits in 200 trials whenever they come? Even if it can survive, what will be the drawdown figure and can we get to win a net win if things merely go normal thereafter?
2. If not, can his method eliminate any probability of getting such bad streaks?
If he says yes to any of them, just ask him to do these sessions and give feedback on results on each: http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/
If he beats them all with any given methodology, I will provide him just 30k random outcomes of mine to do with the same approach. If he beats that all too, positively and without getting superbig DDs, the system is worth playing, for sure, for any price.
Quote from: Albalaha on May 16, 2016, 03:27:23 AM
Well, you guys always miss a point. Whenever you get any claim of HG from any baccarat/roulette pro/expert/seller just ask him two things:
1. Can his method survive a case of 25 hits in 100 trials or 65 hits in 200 trials whenever they come? Even if it can survive, what will be the drawndown figure and can we get to win a net win if things merely go normal thereafter?
2. If not, can his method eliminate any probability of getting such bad streaks?
If he says yes to any of them, just ask him to do these sessions and give feedback on results on each: http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/
If he beats them all with any given methodology, I will provide him just 30k random outcomes of mine to do with the same approach. If he beats that all too, positively and without getting superbig DDs, the system is worth playing, for sure, for any price.
answer : Well as far as I aware of his system, he stop after getting 3 LIAR so it rather hard to prove this. And also his system based on the outcome of P/B, where in your link it is just W/L registry (CMIIW)
The last live report is on April. Haven't seen the newest (May). His website also improve significantly since the last time I visited.
Maybe he need more cash to cover the website's overhead cost?
His cartoon character is one of his student's. I dare to assume he might have worked together with his student. Need more cash to feed two bulldogs. LoL
Just ask him the two questions. Whatever way he picks his bets, can he handle those cases or avoid getting them? If he says yes, is he ready for a 30k placed bet simulation only on random shoes, as he suggests. Ask this to anybody claiming to beat the game. Half will wet their pants. No jokes.
Btw recently I found another one in Youtube. The title is "baccarat 2016" by some Indonesian guy. The author : trik menang baccarat (baccarat wining trick)
He said his bs could manage to get 5:1 ratio of winning. He posted a demo video on live play. And he sells it for only Rp.500.000 (almost equal to USD 38,5)
Well...maybe we all might want to start a company selling ALL the trick we have here. LoL >:D
ps. if anyone interested with it, I could help you to contact him. >:D >:D >:D :)) :)) C:-) :cheer: :cheer:
No endorsements of Dr. Tom's 'WHATEVER' it is. I read some of his website.
Lots of common sense and lots of self-knwoedlge is required for it to even work "SOMETIMES"
Before anyone of you changes around what I said, I said:
SOMETIMES it can work and your will need common sense when to employ it or stop it. But then again, that is with most things like this anyway!
Period. Nothing else to really discuss worthwhile.
And as far as pricing, it is subjective to what one's business demands to operate. It is the same for many various kinds of products and services. It is worth what the buyers will pay for it, nothing more and nothing less.
Quote from: Albalaha on May 16, 2016, 03:27:23 AM
Well, you guys always miss a point.
Actually I think it is you who are missing the point - some others, too. The point is that Dr. Tom is likely NOT claiming this is a holy grail, secret sauce methodology.
Full disclosure. I know and am friendly with Dr. Tom. Have even played with him and his wife. Haven't spoken to him in a while and I do have the first two two of his methods. If this is one of them I don't know.
Quote from: alrelax on May 16, 2016, 12:08:52 PMAnd as far as pricing, it is subjective to what one's business demands to operate. It is the same for many various kinds of products and services. It is worth what the buyers will pay for it, nothing more and nothing less.
Exactly.
So Albalaha, like any other strategy it needs adjustments on the fly when not performing and is only a base or reference point. We need a reason to place a bet or not. Dr. tom has been in this game a loooong time and is serious about predicting. My guess is that his methods are as good as the trend capture of the derivative roads.
His first two methods were about waiting for some dominance having to do with placement and W/L registry then making bets based on those trends. It got complicated. He also was predominantly a flat bettor and quick to leave a shoe with a few units win or lose.
Anyway, if you need a reference point then it's a good thing ton look at all and any strategy to decide what you like best. If you want to buy them that's your business. Apparently lots of people do!
J
Few people are in the game a long time, and by a long time I mean over 5 years, but for sake of argument, let's just say 10 years.
Baccarat will eat you up and kill you. Don't believe me, keep playing it and trying for those larger wins.
Now, if you win a few units or lose a few units and leave the casino until another time in the near future, you will survive the game.
If you think you could do anything else on a consistent basis, you are full of poo-poo and I will put thousands against your survival at the tables to keep playing with the same bankroll---adding to it from large wins---and also using some of the win money for your enjoyment and living, etc., you will go broke and ruin your life.
BTW, why isn't anyone still at the tables wagering large bankrolls, consistently winning, everyday, every week, whatever, year after year after year. It cannot be done. Why are you any different. Oh excuse me, 3 Bankers, followed by a Player, followed by 3 Bankers, followed by a Player. You say wager $5,000.00 on a Banker next, oh okay, thanks. Or how about the one with 14 Bankers in a row and everyone tells me to wager huge on the Player every single time, because it has to cut back to Player. Oh oaky. I see.
As far as predicting, we all can do it at times. Period. The end.
I do not understand what do you mean by a HG? Do you think a HG will start showering money on you without getting any drawdown? A HG is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net result of fighting with randomness and breaks the concept that a player has to lose ultimately whatever he does. Any method with negative progression usually win till a so-called Run from hell comes and wipes all the efforts. If a method that relies upon progression tanks badly and loses all the winnings so far, it is not a method but a joke.
You said you have experienced his systems. Can you get that simulated on random sessions to prove if it actually holds?
No method can claim to win flat bet. It is impossible per se. Can his way of picking bets create any advantage by itself?
Quote from: Albalaha on May 16, 2016, 12:55:36 PM
I do not understand what do you mean by a HG? Do you think a HG will start showering money on you without getting any drawdown? A HG is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net result of fighting with randomness and breaks the concept that a player has to lose ultimately whatever he does. Any method with negative progression usually win till a so-called Run from hell comes and wipes all the efforts. If a method that relies upon progression tanks badly and loses all the winnings so far, it is not a method but a joke.
You said you have experienced his systems. Can you get that simulated on random sessions to prove if it actually holds?
No method can claim to win flat bet. It is impossible per se. Can his way of picking bets create any advantage by itself?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. pay attention!
Quote from: Albalaha on May 16, 2016, 12:55:36 PM
is a method that ultimately gets you to win(even small win) as net
I have a news flash for everyone! It is extremely easy to sit down and win a couple or a few units. Happens all the time.
I always see people at the casinos I go to, sit down and win a couple of units. None of them leave, none, ZERO. Does not happen. I do see them leave when they occasionally win $10k on a $2k buy in or $5k on a $5k buy in or $2.5k on a $300 buy in. But I see players win a few units all the time in the beginning or get even 3 or 5 or 8 times over in the course of a shoe or two or three and then win a couple of units. They DO NOT ever leave.
You talk about all these elaborate rhythms and progressions and positive this and negative that. Bull poo-poo. Mean zip at the table, nothing. Because people won't leave with $225.00, say 3 units on a $500 buy in or anything of the like.
And why not, because of the steakhouse, the bar, the club, the entertainment, the suite or rooms, the food.......all for free------LOL. Oh yeah, the chips in the rack, those rows of all the orange or yellow (depending on where you are at), those rows and rows of purple and black. Hell, some of you are so naïve in your gambling you do not even know tricks of the house. I was at a midi table over the weekend. Everyone was winning, everyone up huge. No one leaving. Almost all was playing with green and black. Floor person has most of the green and black removed and replaces with purple and orange. Every time someone wagers say $650 in green and wins, the dealer pays with one purple and one black and two green. Or the dealer takes the green ad pays in one orange and three black. Just one example out of many things the house can do and will do.
Quote from: Jimske on May 16, 2016, 01:02:19 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. pay attention!
Are you endorsing him on a commission? You are defending him without giving any answer of the queries asked about what he does.
I have no ties to the guy, never purchased the system or advise or course (whatever it actually is) and receive nothing from him regarding this.
I looked and read 70% of his website. All common sense and can very well work, but the same thing can be learned on your own and usually lots quicker with more meaning. However, some of us are very self-lacking when it comes to these things. IMO his 'course' appears to be more worthy of purchase than anything else I have read about. I have never purchased his stuff or anyone else's.
Albalaha, at times you appear to come off as a mathematical wizard and rocket scientist, but you are not and never will be IMO and only IMO. Your projection of anticipated wins or choosing the right side based up 'make up' strategy or what the shoe has not done yet---will also work sometimes and fail tremendously at an equal amount of times. Unfortunately for the player almost anything in the way of a protocol will also do this at baccarat, it has to and nothing can always prevail. If it did not the baccarat tables would NOT be in any casino let alone, their largest single drop (PROFIT) out of any table game period!!!!!!
People have either developed or found or copied something and put their claim to fame on it. Advertised it, marketed it and developed a business around it. It is really no different with most any kind of business. Someone goes out and buys a lawnmower, an edger, a weed whacker, a hedge trimmer, shovels, rakes and misc. Buys a pickup truck and gets a city permit. Advertises his lawn care and maintenance service and develops slogans and material as to how his service is new and great, so much better than Joe Schmo's, etc., etc. He is neither right or wrong. It is business, advertising and how it is perceived by the public and potential customers.
Something about an old saying in business, I think it goes, "He who climbs on in a tree and hollers is far better off then he who sits on the ground and says nothing"..............................
As far as all the stories of Dr. Tom's, we all have them, pretty normal for any gambler. He just puts them into advertising and plies on those that are looking for assistance.
Everything and/or anything can and will work sometimes, even VooDoo! Seriously, 100%!!!!
QuoteAlbalaha, at times you appear to come off as a mathematical wizard and rocket scientist, but you are not and never will be IMO and only IMO. Your projection of anticipated wins or choosing the right side based up 'make up' strategy or what the shoe has not done yet---will also work sometimes and fail tremendously at an equal amount of times. Unfortunately for the player almost anything in the way of a protocol will also do this at baccarat, it has to and nothing can always prevail. If it did not the baccarat tables would NOT be in any casino let alone, their largest single drop (PROFIT) out of any table game period!!!!!!
Buddy,
I am not a scientist or a PhD in mathematics or Statistics but I know the basics that is not something anybody can deny. Anything can work for time being but with the arrival of variance the same anything lose pants too. If anybody claims that his anything will do everything he should be able to answer the why too. One can not say, oh, no logic, it just works, try a shoe to see. On every claim of system I would like to ask the same questions:
1. Why the hell this way of playing should make any difference than just sticking to a random bet flat every trial?
2. How does your system do in the worst of worst that is inevitable to happen or if you claim that your methodology can filter the horrible runs out?
3. Can you dare your system to be simulated on random results for enough trials and prove your point?
I have talked in length to not less than a dozen authors of gambling systems; even those who are bestsellers. All are :-X
I think we have now arrived at bleeding edge of the argument of the winning baccarat player versus the approach that will crack baccarat 'In The Long Run'.
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What the hell is that orange thing, a foreign stoner's take on the legendary 'General Lee'?
Quote from: Albalaha on May 17, 2016, 02:13:53 AM
.... if you claim that your methodology can filter the horrible runs out?
Ahh, therein lies the rub, my friend. The paradox; that which separates the best from the rest. "....filter the horrible runs out"....yes, this is, in fact, the very key that opens many doors for the astute player; doors that lead to both win/loss goals and the money-management process that'll serve them best to expedite those goals.
Albalaha, I question none of your statements, none of your gaming beliefs; you are a learned and well-intentioned member of this forum, of that I've no doubt.
But I believe that you might be making the most common of mistakes when looking broadly at the scope of playing this game, and I believe that it might be causing you to come to certain conclusions that just might be a bit prejudiced by those same mistakes.
For one thing, Albalaha, I must inform you that NOT EVERY PLAYER encounters these "25 of 100" or the "65 of 200" losses in their play. Astute players have certain "built-in brakes" that are applied in order to prevent such calamities. And so they are effectively, as you put it yourself just above, able to "filter the horrible runs out".
That's all I have time for right now, Albalaha....I'm leaving for Mo Sun in an hour, and will be there for a few days. I'll catch up with you at a later date.
Take care, and stay well.
Quote from: alrelax on May 17, 2016, 12:02:23 PM
What the hell is that orange thing, a foreign stoner's take on the legendary 'General Lee'?
It's THE DIRTY LEE (A Ford -> Ford vs Chevy). Sure it's here in 'Merica - I like.
Quote from: Albalaha on May 16, 2016, 04:19:27 PM
Are you endorsing him on a commission? You are defending him without giving any answer of the queries asked about what he does.
Re-read what I said and you'll answer your own questions.
QuoteFor one thing, Albalaha, I must inform you that NOT EVERY PLAYER encounters these "25 of 100" or the "65 of 200" losses in their play. Astute players have certain "built-in brakes" that are applied in order to prevent such calamities. And so they are effectively, as you put it yourself just above, able to "filter the horrible runs out".
Dear Friend,
25/100 or 65/200 are inevitable to come. Your safety break could lead you to stop at 4/20 or anything like that momentarily but you can not eliminate to get 25/100 as 4/20,5/30,6/20,10/30 or anything alike despite your so called "safety breaks". I know many gentlemen here who says, oh! I won't get 25/100 ever as I am so smart to quit earlier. I agree that you can quit but you can still get 25/100 in the manner I described in 4 sessions of yours or so. I hope you must have caught this point of mine.
Since, in a random game we have no control over what will happen in the next spin, anybody claiming to never get 25/100 is a naive only.
QuoteThat's all I have time for right now, Albalaha....I'm leaving for Mo Sun in an hour, and will be there for a few days. I'll catch up with you at a later date.
It seems Mohegun Sun is a hot favorite among many of my friends here. Best of luck for your coming days of play.
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Quote from: Albalaha on May 18, 2016, 04:17:55 AM
Dear Friend,
25/100 or 65/200 are inevitable to come. Your safety break could lead you to stop at 4/20 or anything like that momentarily but you can not eliminate to get 25/100 as 4/20,5/30,6/20,10/30 or anything alike despite your so called "safety breaks". I know many gentlemen here who says, oh! I won't get 25/100 ever as I am so smart to quit earlier. I agree that you can quit but you can still get 25/100 in the manner I described in 4 sessions of yours or so. I hope you must have caught this point of mine.
Since, in a random game we have no control over what will happen in the next spin, anybody claiming to never get 25/100 is a naive only.
It seems Mohegun Sun is a hot favorite among many of my friends here. Best of luck for your coming days of play.
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That pic is Foxwoods.
I didn't see Gr8 today but I was only there a short time in the early afternoon. Maybe he was napping getting ready for a new session.
My worst shoe ever was a 32% strike rate. Once. Before that a 38% and more than once. In about 60 hands or so. Perhaps I've had a couple similar back to back but I don't recall. Looking back at my sessions over 10,000 live bets since I've been keeping track it hasn't occurred. But even so it doesn't mean that one cannot win consistently even with such encounters.
For the most part I got to agree with Gr8 post regarding "built in brakes." It's a betting and MM game more so than the elusive holy grail bet selection that you seem to think is a necessity for success. But selection is important. I had a 52.13% strike rate for over 10,000 bets and re-started my stats 1,316 bets ago after some bet selection tweak. Now at 54.64% strike for those hands. I don't necessarily think it will hold up forever but then I don't care much about forever. I play for the short term.
BTW, I'm still trying to figure why betting less hands is better. Are there certain places to wait for that have a better chance of winning? If so I'd sure like someone to clue me in. Today I had my best win ever % wise. Won 39 of 55 bets placed. I think that's like 71%?
QuoteQuoteI had a 52.13% strike rate for over 10,000 bets and re-started my stats 1,316 bets ago after some bet selection tweak. Now at 54.64% strike for those hands.
Betselection never gives an edge to us, so far it is very random and has no physical bias or tampering. Variance could be by your side for long enough to give an illusion of an edge but if you are capable of simulating your wise betselection idea over random data, it will tell you the truth itself.
QuoteThat pic is Foxwoods.
Nope. foxwoods is this:
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and what I shown was Mohegan Sun:
This is the Mohegun Sun setting behind the rock. So bright you can still see it.
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:nope:
Looks like a very cool place to play.
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@Jim maybe the best implementation of less betting is we stop after maybe 2 LIAR. Yes according to theory it might not help but at least it gives you time to cool down a little bit, maybe?
Somehow I have to agree with Lung Yeh when he said that there will be "sar chi" phase , when everything you do is always wrong, no matter what.
Quote from: Albalaha on May 19, 2016, 03:19:11 AM
Betselection never gives an edge to us, so far it is very random and has no physical bias or tampering. Variance could be by your side for long enough to give an illusion of an edge but if you are capable of simulating your wise betselection idea over random data, it will tell you the truth itself.
Nope. foxwoods is this:
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and what I shown was Mohegan Sun:
Oooops, you right . . . about the pic. Sorry.
What you mean is mechanical bet selection never gives us an edge. No argument there. In order to get the edge one must adjust the bet selection to conform to the bias. And yes this amounts to guessing for sure but it also relies on statistical limitations which exist in random elements but more so in closed systems such as Baccarat.
Unlike Roulette we know there is a bias in every shoe. We don't know what it is of course. Perhaps the bias is caused by card value accumulations and/or depletion. In the end I am betting on consistency of a particular, albeit forever changing, bias. The rest is just MM and betting which is the greater key IMO.
IMO, attempting to get an advantage over each and every next individual decision is a mistake. That is what mechanical selections do and the derivative roads I believe. It is necessary to look at groups or patterns. At least that's how I do it. I never concern myself with the point values of the decisions.
Finally, I think players complicate and read into the game too much. Anyway Alb, you can have the last word. These conversations go nowhere.
Good luck.
Quote from: Jimske on May 19, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
Oooops, you right . . . about the pic. Sorry.
What you mean is mechanical bet selection never gives us an edge. No argument there. In order to get the edge one must adjust the bet selection to conform to the bias. And yes this amounts to guessing for sure but it also relies on statistical limitations which exist in random elements but more so in closed systems such as Baccarat.
Unlike Roulette we know there is a bias in every shoe. We don't know what it is of course. Perhaps the bias is caused by card value accumulations and/or depletion. In the end I am betting on consistency of a particular, albeit forever changing, bias. The rest is just MM and betting which is the greater key IMO.
IMO, attempting to get an advantage over each and every next individual decision is a mistake. That is what mechanical selections do and the derivative roads I believe. It is necessary to look at groups or patterns. At least that's how I do it. I never concern myself with the point values of the decisions.
Finally, I think players complicate and read into the game too much. Anyway Alb, you can have the last word. These conversations go nowhere.
Good luck.
I thought you frequented foxwoods and mohegan sun? One should surely know the difference between the 2 as they are vastly different....
But, a lot of people on these boards say a lot of things!! :whistle: :o :o :o :o :o
Quote from: marinetech on May 19, 2016, 06:40:14 PM
I thought you frequented foxwoods and mohegan sun? One should surely know the difference between the 2 as they are vastly different....
But, a lot of people on these boards say a lot of things!! :whistle: :o :o :o :o :o
Caught red handed! You found me out! Truth is I don't even play and I live in California.
Quote from: Jimske on May 20, 2016, 11:02:43 AM
Caught red handed! You found me out! Truth is I don't even play and I live in California.
That's too bad. Thought you might have been legit but I've been fooled yet again...............
Quote from: marinetech on May 20, 2016, 08:30:35 PM
That's too bad. Thought you might have been legit but I've been fooled yet again...............
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Jimske for president.
Quote from: Albalaha on May 18, 2016, 04:17:55 AM
Dear Friend,
25/100 or 65/200 are inevitable to come. Your safety break could lead you to stop at 4/20 or anything like that momentarily but you can not eliminate to get 25/100 as 4/20,5/30,6/20,10/30 or anything alike despite your so called "safety breaks". I know many gentlemen here who says, oh! I won't get 25/100 ever as I am so smart to quit earlier. I agree that you can quit but you can still get 25/100 in the manner I described in 4 sessions of yours or so. I hope you must have caught this point of mine.
Since, in a random game we have no control over what will happen in the next spin, anybody claiming to never get 25/100 is a naive only.
Oh, boy, Albalaha....those are some rather rough numbers up there....Thank Goodness I haven't suffered through losing jags quite that drastic. I do recall that my worst trip was a weekend some 20 years ago at Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, but, even then, my strike rates were were in the high 30's, nowhere near a mere 25%. And here's the thing about that, Albalaha....my very next trip was a rather successful one, nothing less than I would have expected and anticipated after such a disastrous trip.
Look, let's all acknowledge: "Spit Happens". There are times when we simply cannot win a bet. I get it. Frankly, I'm rather familiar with those difficulties. But I also know how to combat those difficulties. I choose to sit out. I don't abort the session; rather, I just wait it out. My bet selection process will come around; it's only a matter of time. So my job then becomes to make sure that I AM THERE when it does, and that all leads to bankroll preservation; hence, my "no-bet" option.
I apologize in advance, Albalaha, if I am making this all sound just a bit too easy or a bit too simple....please know, it is not. But I know exactly what I am at that table for, and I have a very good way of going about acquiring it.
As always, I wish it for all of you. Take care, and stay well.
Quote from: Jimske on May 19, 2016, 02:58:48 AM
BTW, I'm still trying to figure why betting less hands is better. Are there certain places to wait for that have a better chance of winning? If so I'd sure like someone to clue me in.
Absolutely not, Jimske. There exists no "certain places...that have a better chance of winning". It's all even chance.
I bet less hands because my bet selection process is probably alot more "selective" (read: narrowed) than yours is. That's my approach to this game; I like to pick my spots as the shoe's bias (read: "dom") comes into focus for me. This methodology pretty much automatically allows ''wiggle-room" for my much-applied "no-bet" option, as well. So I'm rather comfortable with my over-all play, and we all know just how imperative that is, especially when viewing this game (as I do) over the long term.
Doesn't make my play any better than yours; frankly, your strike rates are just fine, and wouldn't change a thing if I were you. Play the way that you're most comfortable with, and your chance for long-term success increases, IMHO.
Anyhow, take care and stay well.
Awwww, shucks, guys. yer makin' me blush! But I accept the presidency!