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Love the one I saw a few nights ago. Just when you thought you seen everything at baccarat.
A bit better than the numerous ones I see 'work' 2 three-line cards when the first side has a 7 or better, 2-three line cards can never add up to be more than 6????
But the one I am referring to is this guy who worked a face card on 3 sides before turning it over and the other side had a 7 and he already exposed a 6. Someone has to clue me in cause I was always under the impression that if there is a black line on one side it is on the three other sides as well??? However, I guess I am wrong.
The one I recently experienced. Bet B. Player got a 4 and K. Banker got J and 6. Player drew 7. And Banker drew a 4. LoL.
I already wrote down my winning.
Then same scenario happened again but this time I was on the winning side.
Quote from: Garfield on May 20, 2016, 08:22:08 PM
The one I recently experienced. Bet B. Player got a 4 and K. Banker got J and 6. Player drew 7. And Banker drew a 4. LoL.
I already wrote down my winning.
Then same scenario happened again but this time I was on the winning side.
Hello, Garfield.
I had to laugh while reading your post....I had the misfortune of suffering a loss that EXACT SAME WAY (B6, P4; P draws a 7 for a total of one and the B draws a 4 which knocked me down to zero) on Thursday. Funny, too....it was in the midst of a bit of a losing jag for me; which only goes to show that when the cards ain't fallin' right, they just ain't fallin' right. Not much I could do but wait it out. So I no-betted for a while, and came back into the game when it seemed as if this kind of malarkey appeared over. It was. In the end I picked up 4 units (3 1/2 after comm)....not bad, especially after a tough start.
Take care, and stay well.
Quote from: Garfield on May 20, 2016, 08:22:08 PM
The one I recently experienced. Bet B. Player got a 4 and K. Banker got J and 6. Player drew 7. And Banker drew a 4. LoL.
I already wrote down my winning.
Then same scenario happened again but this time I was on the winning side.
I never write down the numbers. I can't figure out what difference it makes. I do have a theory about depleted denominations though. I notice that often times the second half of the shoe (more or less) exhibits entirely different bias (pattern). I wonder if the reason for this is that certain values become scarce in the deck and create this.
I guess it would be easy to test by removing certain values and looking at the patterns they produce to see if there are any consistencies. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor to examine.
Went to play last night. Seen it many times, I think it happened more when most or all the players were on the side that gets reduced to zero or 1 and the other side finishes with 1 or 2, at least 6 times if not more out of three shoes.
As far as the numbers, I know it does not matter over the course of numerous shoes, might at times within one shoe, but for a comparison factor or wagering guide, does not mean zip outside of a small section of the instant shoe.
I have always said split the sections up to 4 to 6 sections on the card horizontally and sections and most of the times, halves, will either be dominantly the same or opposingly different.
The real funny part is, the guy playing doing everything that 21Aces points out.
His girlfriend sneaks away from the table while the guy is playing and doing all his masterful luck regime with the cards, losing and getting wiped out, time and time again.
I spot his fine looking girlfriend walking straight, cute-fingernails and toes perfectly manicured and painted. Walking a perfectly nice straight line in her 5 inch high heels. Her delicious looking breasts sticking out for the very obvious to notice. Her thong outlined rear end in her skin tight white pants. Yep, sure as heck, about two hours later---right around the end of the shoe, her she comes, make up slightly smudged, missing her bra, her thong peeking out the top of her pants and very noticeably walking a slightly crooked and bold legged line. The guy she just re-entered the casino with gave her a wink and a smile, she gave one back just before they reached the baccarat table and he went towards the bar and she sat down next to her boyfriend blowing on the cards with the last of their $10,000.00 buy-in where upon, the player retuned a 7 and he had a Monkey and a three line card for the Banker. His last $1,400.00 wager was up. He announces he had a 6 or a 7 or an 8. As he tries to add two 'pips' to the middle to create an 8, his face
is still hopeful!
She looks at him and says at a whisper, 'what the f*** are you doing, really, stroking a card like that'? I noticed when she left, her wonderful feminine perfume aroma that she presented. Now, 2 hours later her new aroma became one of a sexual smell. The guy is so oblivious to what he is doing and what his fine looking girlfriend or wife seemingly did in the last 2 hours, his efforts are solely on the last wager he has riding on the Banker side.
His face gets real long and real sad, as he peels the card back saying 7 or 8 and then suddenly saying 7, 7, 7, 7 and then revealing a 6---he crumbles up the card and throws it at the dealer.
I look over at his girlfriend or wife and she is playing some kind of eye flirting game with the guy that she walked in with a minute ago, standing not too far away.
Sure you do! I understand. I see it all the time...............And, of course 100% that 8 you needed to win over the other side's 7, was only created because you added a 'pip' by pressing on the back side of the card or rubbing it over seat 8, numeral 8 imprinted on the layout!!!! Of course. I totally understand that if you did not do that, the 8 would have been a 6. Yes, I believe you, don't worry!
Or, perhaps you blew the 'pip' off the 10 when you had revealed 1 ten already and because you blew just the right way, you caused the other 'pip' 10 to be converted to a 9. Of course the other side had a Natural 8.
You are the best! 8) :thumbsup:
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 21, 2016, 06:05:38 PM
FWIW winning players, including myself, do a lot of these all of the time.
I just had to quote this before it gets erased :sing:! Sorry, it is a very special and unique quote.
I don't record the number either, just happened to remember that due to the topic here.
A win is a win, whether it's a natural or a 1.
Quote from: Jimske on May 21, 2016, 03:36:41 PM
I never write down the numbers. I can't figure out what difference it makes. I do have a theory about depleted denominations though. I notice that often times the second half of the shoe (more or less) exhibits entirely different bias (pattern). I wonder if the reason for this is that certain values become scarce in the deck and create this.
I guess it would be easy to test by removing certain values and looking at the patterns they produce to see if there are any consistencies. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor to examine.
I too have noticed that the low hanging fruit to be plucked is often in the first half of a shoe. I tend to make more virtual bet in the second half of shoes for some reasons, hey hey.
Quote from: Jimske on May 21, 2016, 03:36:41 PM
I never write down the numbers. I can't figure out what difference it makes. I do have a theory about depleted denominations though. I notice that often times the second half of the shoe (more or less) exhibits entirely different bias (pattern). I wonder if the reason for this is that certain values become scarce in the deck and create this.
Hello, Jimske, I trust all is well with you.
I don't record the card values/totals either, although many (mostly Asians) do. It's all just another way of trending, of which there are, literally, hundreds.
But I responded to your post more to discuss your: "....often times the second half of the shoe exhibits entirely different bias".
Yes, and there is a valid reason for it. It's called "diminishing probability". Basically, the longer a trend/bias lasts, the less likely it becomes to continue. Simple and basic common sense.
I call it the "unravel"....when the current leading trends/biases become depleted and simply cease their domination. Perfect time for my "no-bet" option.
So while it appears as if the card values or their denominations might be affecting the results, I'm quite certain that it's much more a matter of "diminishing probability" at work. Nothing more, nothing less.
The best response is to be ever-vigilant of those impending changes in the nature of the shoe, and have a best response lined up. (Most often, it's simply to sit it out and await the next trend/bias that, hopefully, can regain some of the positive momentum.)
Take care, and stay well.
GR8,
I am safe to say most Asians and most of the 'other' people of whatever country or color origin, intrepret trending and pattern following entirely different than your quoted, 'diminishing probability'. They will follow what it has displayed because they believe it will be the same way once again, such as the player always losing a subsequent hand for say 6 times when the Banker had a natural. They will generally intrepret that as meaning, 'it' will continue the same. That's why people that follow numbers get zapped the majority of the times.
Of course there are times and key triggers, of course! But as a consistent whole all the time, it will not pan out.....
There are absolute sections, say horizontal wise on the card, maybe 4 or 5 sections will hold true to a pattern or trend. The problem I bring forward is so many, looking at something on hands 0-20 and wagering on it continuing the same on hands 60-80.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 22, 2016, 07:30:13 PM
This is untrue, but keep believing. In fact a substantial player last night called out exactly what I mentioned on this thread when another went against everyone and he lost. I told him how I mention this to other players and exactly what I look at and how they gloss over it in search of applied statistics and mean reversion in the long run tactics and he got a laugh out of it. And I am very surprised that given you mentioned you are married to an Asian that you are so down on them as players. I see quite the opposite as far as skill and they have excellent sportsmanship and spirit for the game.
LMAO. You really are a newbie i d i o t trying to sound experienced aren't you? There is one reason and one reason only that Asian players are the biggest losers. That is that the majority of players are Asians!!!!! If the majority were Anglo then THEY would be the biggest losers! Have you never asked yourself why this game generally has the highest spreads between min and max? Have you never asked why this game is one of the most lucrative for the casinos.
Furthermore nobody who plays this games regular gives one hoot about the long run or reversion to the mean as you suggest - except maybe Asymbac. You really don't have a clue, do you? But the bulls h i t sure is deep! :))
Here's a clue for you. Nobody who plays this game is buying your nonsense but it sure is entertaining!
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 22, 2016, 07:30:13 PM
. And I am very surprised that given you mentioned you are married to an Asian that you are so down on them as players.
And by the way, she has some of the most dumbest and insanely stupid friends I have ever met! A few were highly successful (because they never got caught and probably never would have) until they bought a ton of fast expensive cars, huge houses and all kinds of material goodies including repeatedly buying in and cashing out, in excess of $10k (generating hundreds and hundreds of CTR's and STR's from casinos) all with the illegal profits of drugs and financial crimes. Yes they were all Asians. Of course, they have no real job or even tax returns.
And, I have nothing against Asians, plenty in my family. Thank you.
Not worth the argument you are bringing, but walk around the casinos and observe the ones on the strip and less than the majority off the strip with baccarat tables, very few in comparison to the low limit and high limit blackjack tables. Players dump (lose) more in baccarat per floor space than ever when compared to blackjack. When UNLV does their stats they fail to tell you how many properties don't even have baccarat. LOL.
21Aces you are not one of those players that attempt to squeeze two 3 line cards into beating a natural 8, returned to the other side are you?????? Tell the truth.
http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/strip_game_mix.pdf
Read page 7. Done, you have 2 monkeys, Jimske and I returned a 9. Sorry, Next argument. BTW, 300 something baccarat tables made the casinos more than 1,300 plus blackjack tables on the damn strip alone.
21Aces, look at the numbers of baccarat, it is greater than blackjack and lots of properties have only a couple or a few bac tables and many properties have none. Be real man, grow up.
The figures are accurate, it has to be reported by state law, the days of what happened in the movie Casino are over, BTW.
You are without a doubt, a special player----no doubt whatsoever! I really would like to see you play. I observed a player a few days ago that for some reason had me remember your postings here!!!! Seriously 100%, somehow and for some reason this player actually triggered me to remember and snicker about some of your postings here.
The guy won a few when obviously wagering against everyone else on a current trend and pattern. Of course, the other players wagering together and verbally stating the reasons why, this guy waited and eye contact with the entire table. Dealer is just started to wave his hand across the table to signify, no more bets. The guy throws up a few black chips on the opposite side. He loses. Same thing next hand, and it was probably 5 or 6 repeating wins thus far. Loses again with double his wager. Same thing next hand, loses once again. Same thing next hand, loses once again. He reach table max on his fourth bet I believe it was. He wants to wager more and asks the player next to him to allow him to wager on their opposite side he wanted. The player said no and waved their hand in his face. Told him to go home. Most of the other people had close to table max or at least half of it anyways.
The guy wagers max on the opposite side once again. He slams the cards down with an absolute condescending attitude with a winning hand. Everyone else loses of course. He is so proud of himself. He won less than he lost. Everyone else won and lost only their last wager on that run.
Then a few of the Asians start talking, he was Chinese the rest of them were Viet and Laos, he could not understand, as was obvious from what they were saying about him. Then they wait for him to place his bet. Everyone wagers the opposite side. Everyone wins. He looks puzzled. Someone says, "Hey, it's your turn to lose so we can do it also".
LoL. I guess I've been on both sides of the story.
Quote from: Garfield on May 23, 2016, 02:47:40 PM
LoL. I guess I've been on both sides of the story.
So, you used to be another 21Aces?
Quote from: alrelax on May 23, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
So, you used to be another 21Aces?
Nope. I mean both sides in YOUR story, Al.
I beg for your forgiveness :upsidedown:.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 23, 2016, 01:10:35 AM
Here is a white guy who did something very stupid on the surface. Do you think he actually thought 100% or even any percent he would be successful? BUT HE DID IT ANYWAY BECAUSE HE COULD. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.
People do stupid stuff all the time. It became widely known after the invention of the video camera and the internet as to each other's stupidity and gags/stunts. Now the people do it for the footage and publicity, back before the internet age, we did it cause we wanted to, LOL.
Hell, I remember when I was a kid, 12 or 13 at most. My 2 friends and I taking our go karts, (twin engine Mac 91 B's, in sidewinder racing kart frames) over to the local golf course a few blocks away from our homes. We proceeded to tear it the heck up, all three of us, wild and crazy on the greens. Well later that night the golf course manager comes over my house with the local police department. Tells my parents what I and my two friends did and hands them the estimate to repair the course, which was in excess of $15,000.00 and it was in the 1970's! Lots of bucks back then!
But the difference here and there, is two entirely different things. One is growing up and the other is gambling to make a profit with real money.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 23, 2016, 05:26:01 PM
Can't find a pic without the Ace thanks to all the poker heads out there.
Monkey
Picture
Boyfriend/ Girlfriend
It helps if you slam the table as you call out.
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Don't know where you play, as I said before, but all the places I have it is common to hear:
Monkey
Husband & Wife
2 Lesbians
2 Brothers
Jack and Jill
3 Days before you came up with this hogwash oops, Master Moves, I meant to say, I posted the following along the same lines, except from a reality concept, not fantasy:
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/magical-thinking-boy-does-it-apply!/
If you are looking for that at the gambling tables, wrong place in general. Try a after hours club or a 'juice bar'.
Most of the Asians, are heavily into debt and couple that with some form of illegal or immoral business activity. Many are involved in the adult business, drugs, or something with immigration scams, one form or another.
Believe what you want.
And, BTW if you mean on here, better go to a site like eHarmony or Tinder or some social chat room.
FYI:
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/super-master-lucky-baccarat-move!/
21Aces, I need help. I need to learn how to convert a card from say a 'face card' to a 9. Once you see it is a face how is it magically converted to what you had to have? Or, is it all dependent upon 'doing it' prior to the revealing???
Please do explain. Thank you!
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 24, 2016, 04:27:44 PM
You have to build it:
- For a 9 you have no 9 position on the table so you could hover it over the 3 position 3 times.
- Draw 9 on the back of the card
- Draw the sides and middle worth of symbols (4 sides and one in the middle, totally on the back) or more slick is just to draw one side of 4 and the middle because that defines the card.
- Push the card to and fro 9 times.
- If there is another 9 card already showing, you can copy it by photocopying it over the 9 with yours face down.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3f/07/8f/3f078f9a91437e4c89df494975c1d3af.jpg)
I just now read the once you see it's a picture... lol. Just tell everyone it's a 9 and they need to get some rest.
The photocopying technique should be a sure fire thing! :nod: ;) Absolutely!
Almost all the Midi tables I have seen have seats numbered, 1-2-3-5-6-7-8-9-10 accommodating 9 players. Guess you never seen those tables though.
SO with your sure-fire magical move system here, say I want an 8 card. I would rub it over the number #1 spot 8 times? Or, would it be better to rub it over the #2 spot say 4 times????
How about if I rub it over the number 7 spot say about 1 and 1/10 times to make 8, would that also work??? I mean, just to be clear, I rub it all the way over the spot and then just the corner on the 2nd rub????? Does that work correctly to make the 8?????
Thanks for your magical knowledge!
No, No, you have to continue and instruct us!
How does the karma and luck work. Is there a protocol? A certain song, church or prayer, come on tell us how it seriously works! :stress:
Maybe if I watch 21 Jump Street, no??
You mention the 'Super Secret Shuffle', please explain??
Is it true the certain shoes actually do contain a small conveyer belt style mechanism inside of them and the floor person or the 'eye in the sky' can press a magic button somewhere and the cards will actually rearrange themselves inside of the shoe to mess up the skilled players????
I am sure you know the answer, please inform us!
100% dedicated to you 21Aces, you are the absolute best! This is probably also you in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPGUUc1pyAY
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 24, 2016, 05:11:32 PM
Whatever you think works. Got lucky AGAIN last night because I guess I'm just lucky. I played at two tables where triple high payout bets struck so I guess we were all just lucky and from the minute you walk into a casino and every other minute of your life you are not building luck and karma.
Sorry to inform you, the high ranking religious officials that have a direct connection to the supreme being (himself), told me yesterday, one cannot receive good karma if he gambles. I posted the explanation here. Thanks, your busted!
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 24, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
Just want to be a player among players. If this game doesn't bring a tear to your eye and all that you see, don't know what will (within the context of games and sport). To see that unassuming older female player just kill it play after play after play...
I love this version. Not sure why - lol. I need to base out of Asia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0SkJmu7efE
Old lady is probably one of the local Loan Sharks. Watch when she speaks to the other Asians and then she walks away from the table and they both come back. The other will have the funds to buy in once again. The upper majority of those old ladies are the Asian loan sharks. Anywhere from 10 to 20% a month, sometimes more depending on their market there.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 24, 2016, 05:11:32 PM
Whatever you think works. Got lucky AGAIN last night because I guess I'm just lucky. I played at two tables where triple high payout bets struck so I guess we were all just lucky and from the minute you walk into a casino and every other minute of your life you are not building luck and karma.
Most regulars and certainly "senior members" on this board are known real people who play. Maybe not known by everyone but are connected through communications by play, phone or email, etc. But this is the Internet where anonymity abounds if you want it. So occasionally you get someone like Aces21 who has somehow got designated senior member rather than resident _________. Maybe he's actually Garnabby? Nah. Garnabby is a known quantity anyway.
Aces21, you have obviously recently discovered and have become enamored with the Asian Baccarat culture. Seriously dude you got a personality disorder that needs to be addressed. I hope you're careful and not going down the gambling rabbit hole known as addiction. More likely you don't really play much but got nothing better to do except study this new found phenomenon (gambling). I certainly hope so.
You're really not fooling anybody. But, that probably doesn't matter to you. Like our friend Trump it's really all about you. Can you say narcissism?
Take care.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 25, 2016, 12:04:42 AM
I posted enough content on here to make players win.
LOL zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I don't understand why so many people don't look at baccarat side, its easy to play, very low vig. Minimal available bets! what is more you need? :thumbsup:
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 25, 2016, 02:49:02 AM
You wish you could come close to my track record. I know it's exhausting trying.
UPDATE: I understand what you are saying, Jimske.
Importantly Part XXIV
If you are going to unleash your lucky baccarat moves on a hand, AT LEAST ASK FOR THE RIGHT THING. This typically requires basic math skills such as addition and subtraction and knowing what total(s) you want. Last night, several times a few players directly involved or somewhat involved called out for the wrong things. Fro example, please don't call for a win on a high payout bet that nobody bet on and would make everyone lose. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
:nope:
Last weekend see the exact thing. Everyone but on the Players, 2 monkeys for the players and 2 monkeys for the Bankers. Players pulls a card and tells the dealer to pull the Banker and expose before he looks. Bankers returns a 7 and the one guy had a red $5 chip up on the Fortune ($200) but he had numerous blacks on the Players (far greater win on the Players side of course). He is so happy and yelling, LOL. The guy is looking at the Players card and it is a 'pip' 10 so it's a 9 or a 10. Turns out to be a 9. We are trying to tell the guy with the $5 up on Fortune, it's better for a Players win. Never changes.
Quote from: 21 Aces on May 27, 2016, 01:32:01 AM
Importantly Part XXX
Was this mentioned? DON'T THROW CARDS AT THE DEALER.
:thumbsdown:
Depending on the bets, there will often be a certain order of revealing the cards within what's allowed by the dealing rules. The idea is that you can partially check and confirm a set of outcomes for your side including a shot at a high payout win and then confirm a win by checking the opposite side. Nothing worse than bad surprises that steal away a win.
Don't throw the shoe in the middle of the pit either like I did.
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/when-you-get-really-pissed-off-at-bac-you-throw-the-shoe!-here-is-what-happens/