+ Register

[alrelax]

There is only one thing that works for me and that is as old as the hills. Bet big when you are doing well and bet small when you aren't.

.
Exactly.  Spot on, no matter what when you are in the grove pump it up and take off.  Solid , sound and the easiest and most  positive thing one can do.

[Mike]

alrelax,

I thought you didn't believe in systems? 

I agree, it's probably the best you can do against a NE game. In fact it's the approach recommended by mathematicians. Not a long term winner though, for reasons previously mentioned.

[alrelax]

I do not.  You misunderstood what i meant and maybe i didn't define it. 

I was agreeing with Gizomotron in relationship to, when you are doing well--stick with it and pump it up-big time.  When it falls off, taper down-stop-bet small/smaller, etc. 

I know Gizmo is heavy on his computer written protocol/system, i did not think that is what he was referring to what i answered, which was:

"There is only one thing that works for me and that is as old as the hills. Bet big when you are doing well and bet small when you aren't."

No matter if that is following a system or not.  Example, if i am wagering large on 3/4 repeats and cut, fine--keep doing it.  When it falls off, cut way down.  Try again or don't do it.  Stack up the wins.  Or, perhaps I was doing chop-chop or ties cut, etc.  Same thing.  Or, following 1's and 2's for say 6 squares and then calm down.  That is what i was referring to and agreeing with.

When the wins are there, stack it up and wager larger, do not flat bet when you are hitting 3 out of 4 or 6 out of 7/8 wagers, and then Marty like insane when you are losing.

[Mike]

When the wins are there, stack it up and wager larger, do not flat bet when you are hitting 3 out of 4 or 6 out of 7/8 wagers, and then Marty like insane when you are losing.

Not trying to be clever here, but that's a system too. The fact is, anyone who plays a game like Baccarat, Roulette, or Craps on a regular basis probably uses some kind of system. I guess it can't really be avoided, depending on how you define "system". The question then becomes, are any systems better than others? Depending on your reasons for playing and bankroll, I would say yes.

[alrelax]

Mike I guess anything can be considered a 'system' in baccarat.  Following what the shoe is producing, wagering against what the shoe has just done, wagering anything such as 3 and cut--natural and cut or stick-tie and cut or stick-wagering because of winning ro losing hands and their point values, etc., etc.  Also, sheer guessing with no logic-definition or thought, also--following another player or even wagering against another player, all systems of some type or another, yes.

However, for sake of understanding and clarity.  Here is my definition of a system in baccarat.  And wager that is part of a pre-selected, preconceived, bet placement method that is your wagering protocol as decided up in advance.

As I have said, i attack the game, each shoe as independent and from all directions.  I do not employ a preconceived bet placement scheduled protocol to be wagered.  I might use a 3 repeats and then wager for the cut or I might do exactly the opposite of it and keep wagering for the streak.  Then again, I might sit back and just watch. 

[AsymBacGuy]

The question then becomes, are any systems better than others? Depending on your reasons for playing and bankroll, I would say yes.

Agreed.

The main problem is to try to reduce variance not wagering many many spots, for example.

If we would raise our "trigger" requisites we'll know to pay an inferior tax as the less we bet the less we are taxed.
Additionally, "bad" outcomes must come out along the way, it's just a question of time.
Notice that consistently hoping to get good results into too short intervals of time is just a silly move.

Over selecting the spots we're betting into will raise our probability of success as some distributions won't get high standard deviation values.

as.