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Title: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: Garfield on August 11, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Disclosure :

This is my personal opinions. Not to be debated whatsoever.

Okay, so this is more to those who are new. New to this forum, or even new to baccarat.

I joined this forum about 2 years ago ( if I'm not mistaken) , when I was high in baccarat. I meant I played everyday, making around $100 per bet, and could bet to $5k per hand MAX.

Then I started to lose, big time. http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/it-breaks-my-heart-!-t_t/

That's when I joined this forum. Read everything. Try everything.

There was one particular system's seller ; Alvin iplayforliving.
He posted here, some of his thought, and obviously his system. And by that time, for me he had what I need. To cover my lost. To make me a winner again.

So I bought it. Use the money I didn't own. After that I thought "Wow ! Never heard, seen or even thought about this before ! This will surely work. "

After that, thousand of shoes. Some lost, some won. Mostly, LOST !!!! And it was bigger, because I was so naive and think that the system will work out. Thus I came to what I am today.

"I believe every system has it own nemesis. It will work sometime, and it may not work on another. No matter what. And NO system could help you to beat baccarat / gambling"

I write this because the recent issue of some author promoting his book. He claimed many things. Personally, I DON'T BELIEVE him. But this is an open forum.

Thing's going everywhere since that. Some is funny, some is not.

Then this issue is re-appeared. Many positive reviews etc etc.

I found this misleading. But, it is YOU who decide, what you would do. It is YOUR own money, not mine. It is YOUR life / money / family at stakes, not mine.

So, IMHO, PLEASE, consider everything. EVERYTHING.

Baccarat / Gambling is not something you could consider as a source of steady, daily income.

Don't believe me ? Hey it is your choice. YOLO bro !

Over and out ?








Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: alrelax on August 11, 2017, 04:27:07 PM
IMO, and I have wrote about it--what is even worse is the desperation and frustration players inflict upon themselves and most all of them will eventually turn to someone such as Stephen in the hopes to, right all wrongs.  As you said, it is the deceitful, lying and reviews by proxy.  There are other things, but those are the main things.  With Stephen, he is obnoxious, a despicable form of scum, doesn't really have the experience and is a fallacy writer citing half-truths to sell garbage books, all IMO and all from my experience, nothing else.  The thing that sent me over the top was his accusation that I posted fake B&M shoes to show his system did not prevail.  Other than that, I don't care about him one bit, he is a lair, a fallacy writer and a con-man that preys on innocent people here trying to learn and figure things out.
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: MrGrindUDown on August 11, 2017, 06:13:53 PM
Hey Garfield,

Do you still have the materials from Alvin "Play for a Living", the precision baccarat mentoring program book? Did he send all the materials via pdf.?

Tell me more about your experience with this program and your relationship with Alvin during the time you were in this mentorship program.

If your okay about this, I would like to ask if you can send me some of his lessons from the book in pdf.  If you don't feel comfortable posting his material on this forum, you can send it to me directly at my email address.

Sincerely,
GrindUDown   
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 04:26:37 AM
Quote from: alrelax on August 11, 2017, 04:27:07 PM
IMO, and I have wrote about it--what is even worse is the desperation and frustration players inflict upon themselves and most all of them will eventually turn to someone such as Stephen in the hopes to, right all wrongs.  As you said, it is the deceitful, lying and reviews by proxy.  There are other things, but those are the main things.  With Stephen, he is obnoxious, a despicable form of scum, doesn't really have the experience and is a fallacy writer citing half-truths to sell garbage books, all IMO and all from my experience, nothing else.  The thing that sent me over the top was his accusation that I posted fake B&M shoes to show his system did not prevail.  Other than that, I don't care about him one bit, he is a lair, a fallacy writer and a con-man that preys on innocent people here trying to learn and figure things out.

Aren't you just a nasty man who has nothing better to do that hate Authors of system? I think you're jealous of Stephen's work because you could not come up with a better system.

Reading your posts, you don't believe anyone can win playing baccarat, if someone can win, it's only you, only the way you play, but you can't explain the way you play because only you know.

You don't believe in systems only your own. You don't like it when other get all the focus, all the attention. You begin to feel worthless and useless that readers overlook your pointless mutterings as if you were some old lame drunk on the outskirts of the Bronx. People are passing you by as if what you write is meaningless.

The way you write bad about Stephen and his books the ultimate baccarat winning strategy, silver bullet proof and the golden secret, really I think is a reflection of yourself, your life, your low life, your troll life, nasty, vindictive life.

I read somewhere on this forum that when an author gets hate this means he is successful. Otherwise if his work was useless he would not be receiving hate. I think the truth is you don't even play baccarat. You think you do but you don't. I think you're the type of person who hangs around a casino bumming to get a free drink.

Over and out.

Dave.
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: stephen tabone on August 12, 2017, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 04:26:37 AM
Aren't you just a nasty man who has nothing better to do that hate Authors of system? I think you're jealous of Stephen's work because you could not come up with a better system.

Reading your posts, you don't believe anyone can win playing baccarat, if someone can win, it's only you, only the way you play, but you can't explain the way you play because only you know.

You don't believe in systems only your own. You don't like it when other get all the focus, all the attention. You begin to feel worthless and useless that readers overlook your pointless mutterings as if you were some old lame drunk on the outskirts of the Bronx. People are passing you by as if what you write is meaningless.

The way you write bad about Stephen and his books the ultimate baccarat winning strategy, silver bullet proof and the golden secret, really I think is a reflection of yourself, your life, your low life, your troll life, nasty, vindictive life.

I read somewhere on this forum that when an author gets hate this means he is successful. Otherwise if his work was useless he would not be receiving hate. I think the truth is you don't even play baccarat. You think you do but you don't. I think you're the type of person who hangs around a casino bumming to get a free drink.

Over and out.

Dave.

WARNING: If Alrelax does not remove his libel from his posts I will have no recourse but to get these requested via host servers.
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: Garfield on August 12, 2017, 05:11:18 AM
I heard this song on radio last night. Abd this part of the lyrics remind me about things goin on here.

"...You're tryin' to be cool
You look like a fool to me
Tell me

Why do you have to go and make things so complicated?
I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else
Gets me frustrated
Life's like this
You, you fall and you crawl and you break
And you take what you get and you turn it into honesty
You promised me I'm never gonna find you fake it..."
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: alrelax on August 12, 2017, 06:04:13 AM
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 04:26:37 AM


You begin to feel worthless and useless that readers overlook your pointless mutterings as if you were some old lame drunk on the outskirts of the Bronx. 

The way you write bad about Stephen and his books the ultimate baccarat winning strategy, silver bullet proof and the golden secret, really I think is a reflection of yourself, your life, your low life, your troll life, nasty, vindictive life.



Dave.


A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE RULES HERE, SERIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO DEGRADE AND HUMILATE???
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 07:30:30 AM
Quote from: alrelax on August 12, 2017, 06:04:13 AM

A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE RULES HERE, SERIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO DEGRADE AND HUMILATE???

Well you did call Mr. Tabone names, it's all fair and all in good spirits, no harm meant.

Over and out,

Dave
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: greeneclipse on August 13, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: Garfield on August 11, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Disclosure :

This is my personal opinions. Not to be debated whatsoever.

Okay, so this is more to those who are new. New to this forum, or even new to baccarat.

I joined this forum about 2 years ago ( if I'm not mistaken) , when I was high in baccarat. I meant I played everyday, making around $100 per bet, and could bet to $5k per hand MAX.

Then I started to lose, big time. http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/it-breaks-my-heart-!-t_t/

That's when I joined this forum. Read everything. Try everything.

There was one particular system's seller ; Alvin iplayforliving.
He posted here, some of his thought, and obviously his system. And by that time, for me he had what I need. To cover my lost. To make me a winner again.

So I bought it. Use the money I didn't own. After that I thought "Wow ! Never heard, seen or even thought about this before ! This will surely work. "

After that, thousand of shoes. Some lost, some won. Mostly, LOST !!!! And it was bigger, because I was so naive and think that the system will work out. Thus I came to what I am today.

"I believe every system has it own nemesis. It will work sometime, and it may not work on another. No matter what. And NO system could help you to beat baccarat / gambling"

I write this because the recent issue of some author promoting his book. He claimed many things. Personally, I DON'T BELIEVE him. But this is an open forum.

Thing's going everywhere since that. Some is funny, some is not.

Then this issue is re-appeared. Many positive reviews etc etc.

I found this misleading. But, it is YOU who decide, what you would do. It is YOUR own money, not mine. It is YOUR life / money / family at stakes, not mine.

So, IMHO, PLEASE, consider everything. EVERYTHING.

Baccarat / Gambling is not something you could consider as a source of steady, daily income.

Don't believe me ? Hey it is your choice. YOLO bro !

Over and out ?
Hi, Garfield, is the playforaliving on available on Amazon?
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: symon_lucky on August 14, 2017, 05:13:49 AM
Quote from: Garfield on August 11, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Disclosure :

This is my personal opinions. Not to be debated whatsoever.

Okay, so this is more to those who are new. New to this forum, or even new to baccarat.

I joined this forum about 2 years ago ( if I'm not mistaken) , when I was high in baccarat. I meant I played everyday, making around $100 per bet, and could bet to $5k per hand MAX.

Then I started to lose, big time. http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/it-breaks-my-heart-!-t_t/

That's when I joined this forum. Read everything. Try everything.

There was one particular system's seller ; Alvin iplayforliving.
He posted here, some of his thought, and obviously his system. And by that time, for me he had what I need. To cover my lost. To make me a winner again.

So I bought it. Use the money I didn't own. After that I thought "Wow ! Never heard, seen or even thought about this before ! This will surely work. "

After that, thousand of shoes. Some lost, some won. Mostly, LOST !!!! And it was bigger, because I was so naive and think that the system will work out. Thus I came to what I am today.

"I believe every system has it own nemesis. It will work sometime, and it may not work on another. No matter what. And NO system could help you to beat baccarat / gambling"

I write this because the recent issue of some author promoting his book. He claimed many things. Personally, I DON'T BELIEVE him. But this is an open forum.

Thing's going everywhere since that. Some is funny, some is not.

Then this issue is re-appeared. Many positive reviews etc etc.

I found this misleading. But, it is YOU who decide, what you would do. It is YOUR own money, not mine. It is YOUR life / money / family at stakes, not mine.

So, IMHO, PLEASE, consider everything. EVERYTHING.

Baccarat / Gambling is not something you could consider as a source of steady, daily income.

Don't believe me ? Hey it is your choice. YOLO bro !

Over and out ?
You're correct it's only a game, win some lose some, keep more of the winnings lose less and you could end up in profit. I read The Ultimate Golden Secret Baccarat Winning Strategy 3.0 and along with his book, The Ultimate Silver Bullet Proof Baccarat Winning Strategy 2.1 they are multi attacks on how to win money playing baccarat for advanced baccarat pros.

When I play I listen to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I0vkKy504U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I0vkKy504U
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: alrelax on August 15, 2017, 02:26:50 PM
Quote from: Garfield on August 11, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Disclosure :

This is my personal opinions. Not to be debated whatsoever.

Okay, so this is more to those who are new. New to this forum, or even new to baccarat.

I joined this forum about 2 years ago ( if I'm not mistaken) , when I was high in baccarat. I meant I played everyday, making around $100 per bet, and could bet to $5k per hand MAX.

Then I started to lose, big time. http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/it-breaks-my-heart-!-t_t/

That's when I joined this forum. Read everything. Try everything.

There was one particular system's seller ; Alvin iplayforliving.
He posted here, some of his thought, and obviously his system. And by that time, for me he had what I need. To cover my lost. To make me a winner again.

So I bought it. Use the money I didn't own. After that I thought "Wow ! Never heard, seen or even thought about this before ! This will surely work. "

After that, thousand of shoes. Some lost, some won. Mostly, LOST !!!! And it was bigger, because I was so naive and think that the system will work out. Thus I came to what I am today.

"I believe every system has it own nemesis. It will work sometime, and it may not work on another. No matter what. And NO system could help you to beat baccarat / gambling"

I write this because the recent issue of some author promoting his book. He claimed many things. Personally, I DON'T BELIEVE him. But this is an open forum.

Thing's going everywhere since that. Some is funny, some is not.

Then this issue is re-appeared. Many positive reviews etc etc.

I found this misleading. But, it is YOU who decide, what you would do. It is YOUR own money, not mine. It is YOUR life / money / family at stakes, not mine.

So, IMHO, PLEASE, consider everything. EVERYTHING.

Baccarat / Gambling is not something you could consider as a source of steady, daily income.

Don't believe me ? Hey it is your choice. YOLO bro !

Over and out ?

I re-read this again and again with different views.  Some when i was upset, some when I was totally calm and happy, some when I was tired and some when I refresh myself in the AM.

You know something.  Garfield is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 % SPOT ON!  Total spot on. 

We all have different experiences at the casinos in baccarat, all in proportions and all monetarily different of course.  But the words and the gist of this statement is spot on and clear.  It happens and it repeatedly happens.

If I didn't have a career and own businesses while i was gambling, i am sure i would have been disastrous because of casino losses.  Don't get me wrong, it sucks losing $25k or $50k in a casino where that was win money or my buy in money, just the desperation was never there for survival money is what i am trying to say. 

Baccarat could supplement a players lifestyle with great money, but most all players have no idea of what can and will eventually happen wle they remain in the fallacy and fantasy worlds. 

Knowledge is great and knowledge is terrible and will hurt you if used the wrong way, and that is what happens the highest majority of the times in playing baccarat.

And furthermore--"Baccarat / Gambling is not something you could consider as a source of steady, daily income.", when you have to win or have to play to stay alive, etc., that is only trouble--bad trouble.  I tired to address this very thing before I answered this here and re-read this for the 10th or so time, I post a longer article this this AM, addressing this subject.

That article is entitled, "On author 'systems' type of thought/books Vs. the 'other' way of bac playing" within the baccarat thread section on this board. 
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: toknoy on August 15, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
you really enjoy writing, you should be a writer of baccarat books like Stephen lol  :cheer:
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: esoito on August 15, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
Quote from: toknoy on August 15, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
you really enjoy writing, you should be a writer of baccarat books like Stephen lol  :cheer:

That's right. He does enjoy writing.

And, quite frankly, I wish a few more would contribute thoughtful posts, instead of writing unhelpful one-liners.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take your comment simply as a light-hearted joke, and hope that Alrelax takes it that way, too.
Title: Re: Once again, about system !!!! For those who are new !!!!
Post by: alrelax on August 15, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: esoito on August 15, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
That's right. He does enjoy writing.

And, quite frankly, I wish a few more would contribute thoughtful posts, instead of writing unhelpful one-liners.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take your comment simply as a light-hearted joke, and hope that Alrelax takes it that way, too.

He is one of 3 that  I have blocked, after numerous nasty pm's from him and messages I have zero desire to read anything by him whatsoever,  he makes a zero contribution here and only insults  so no need.