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MarkTeruya

Looks like thin-skinned alrelax is about to spit the dummy, oops he already did, never mind fella, don't forget concentrate really hard while studying those red and blue circles.... 

soxfan

Quote from: Garfield on June 16, 2016, 07:08:49 PM
One more thought of mine about Money Management.

For me now it isn't about progression at all (positive/negative).IMO, if there's no such thing as HG for Bet Selection, there isn't one for MM also.

So nothing could help you to have a slightly better chance against the casino. Nope we aren't that lucky.

But someone stated in this forum that because MOST couldn't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.

There may be no HG for mm/progression scheme but some are demonstrably better/worse than others, hey hey.

gr8player

Quote from: Garfield on June 16, 2016, 05:42:37 PM
So how do you plan to get back from $600 with $25 unit bet? IMO $25 with $600 is worse than $10 with $500.

I've tried from $10k, $4k, $300 buy-in BR and IMO the chance to win is all the same. The only difference is with smaller buy-in BR it's easier to buy-in if you have busted. With $300 I could buy-in 2-3 days after I've busted and with $15k I may need 2-3 months to buy-in again.

And frankly from my experience, with $300 BR I usually could gain $900-$1,200 for each winning session but with $10k my max is to get $10k from my winning session. And with $300, I have more winning session than if I use $10k.

Well, IMO it's all subjective. For me the reward should AT LEAST equal to the risk.

I rather risk $300 to gain $300 than risk $10k to gain $3k.

Do everyone agree it's easier to gain $3k from $10k than to get $300 from $300 ???

And not to mention the stress. IMO the bigger the BR, the tension and the stress is also bigger.

Hello, Garfield.  I've always enjoyed your posts, and this one is no exception.  Much food for thought therein....

Money management is such a vital part of our play, so that any discourse can prove valuable:

Let's begin by looking at your last sentence, regarding "tension and stress".  I've spoken often about every player's own personal "comfort zones"....bet sizes should be comfortable and therefor relatively easy to play with.  Goodness Knows, this game brings upon enough "tension and stress" just by its very nature; we, as players, needn't be adding to that by "over-betting" with dollars/chips that are simply to large for either or bankrolls or our psyche. 

Not to mention the inherent "hesitation"  that accompanies one's over-betting....you know what I mean....when the player is thinking of placing their bet but, instead, hesitates (and eventually fails to do so) because the stress on their bankroll and their psyche have overcome them.  That, my friends, can only be, in the long run, the absolute WORST bet selection process that one could EVER employ.  Simply gotta make those bets that you're triggered into....otherwise, you're simply setting yourself up for failure.

And so we learn to keep our bets within our own personal comfort zones.....OK, done.

Next Garfield's post touches upon the "how much" and/or the "how many units" topic.  This, as well, becomes again a matter of personal taste.  That said, I will offer my opinion on the subject:

For me, personally, I've never done better, over the long run, as when I decided to reduce my unit sizes and bet smaller.  Why?  Because of the afore-mentioned "hesitation" that I spoke of and its accompanying stress.  I finally decided that I, for lack of a better phrase, simply "didn't need the aggravation".  It was becoming over-whelming for me, and so I needed a change....a change for the better.  And that change came in the form of both unit-size reduction, and, naturally, buy-in reduction.

Now, I can play longer and more often.  Sure, I win less, "dollar-wise".  Of that there can be no doubt.  But, you know what, fellas:  "F" the money!  I'm much more important to myself than the money can ever be, so "F" it!  I'd rather play COMFORTABLY and AFFORDABLY.  And, without the hesitation and stress that comes with large units and large buy-ins.

And guess what happened:  my play improved and I'm winning more units.  Albeit, smaller units, but still, MORE units.  And, even more importantly, any losses are RECOVERABLE losses.  And, frankly speaking, my friends, ain't that the "name of this game"?  Losses happen....will you let them destroy you (read: risking a huge session bankroll) or might it be better to keep them both manageable and recoverable?  I believe the answer is rather obvious.

You see, my friends, we as players MUST control what we can control.  And then tailor that to our BEST GAME...our best chance at succeeding over the long run in this game.  We mustn't ever be our own worst enemies at the tables....and believe me, I see it time and time again from these desperate players.  And so we should make sure that we're doing everything in our power to give us the absolute best chance....lesser unit sizes and lesser session bankrolls, to me, lead to a longer (and better) life at the tables.

And, as always, I wish it for all of you.  Take care, and stay well.

Garfield

Thx, gr8. Nice to see you again.

For some reasons, some post's from member here are more reasonable and accepted for me than others. I could clearly understood what they said because that's what I experienced also.

But for some, it's hard for me to chew what they posted. Really. I guess the world out there is bigger than I expected. You could never said "I've seen everything".



You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

Garfield

As much as the casino "love" any system player, I believe they also love the fat BR player. Really. I don't believe they will hate player who bring $xxxk or even $xxxM come into their door.

They will even might provide a red carpet for you.

IMO.

If that's the fact, well I should consider quit because no matter what I couldn't compare to casino's BR, which I would dare to say almost unlimited.

If only I could have 5%, or even 1%, or even less than a percent of any casino's BR, that's should be enough for me.

Funny, how casino never refuse any amount you put. And guess which side is winning more. Player, on the other hand, who have the chance to choice when to bet, still losing more.

Well, I must be taking too much sh*t this week. LoL.

You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

soxfan

Quote from: Garfield on June 17, 2016, 09:19:57 PM
As much as the casino "love" any system player, I believe they also love the fat BR player. Really. I don't believe they will hate player who bring $xxxk or even $xxxM come into their door.

They will even might provide a red carpet for you.

IMO.

If that's the fact, well I should consider quit because no matter what I couldn't compare to casino's BR, which I would dare to say almost unlimited.

If only I could have 5%, or even 1%, or even less than a percent of any casino's BR, that's should be enough for me.

Funny, how casino never refuse any amount you put. And guess which side is winning more. Player, on the other hand, who have the chance to choice when to bet, still losing more.

Well, I must be taking too much sh*t this week. LoL.

Cats have got the gavel just for winning regular using the "system". And lots of joints are stingy as far as offering the nice fat spread between min-max bet, hey hey.