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Title: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: BacDealer on October 17, 2013, 04:32:04 AM
ATTENTION BACCARAT PLAYERS - Don't be fooled by anyone trying to sell you a "Baccarat System"

QuoteMy current "Partner" betting progression that I use allowing me to color up $500.00 after catching a run of 8 consecutive Players / Bankers in a row and also another $500.00 after 11 in a row.

My methods are as follows:

*I bring my "Gamblers Wallet" to the casino leaving any other Money, Debit/Credit cards home.

*I sit at the table and hand in my "Players Reward Card" along with $1000.00 as my starting bankroll.

*I start off each game betting both "Banker" and "Player"

*My "Betting Progression" is 25, 50, 75, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 200, 100, 150, 200

*I will increase my first win 100% (Parley the first $25.00 win to $50.00).

*After each consecutive win, I will compliment the losing side with a $25.00 chip and increases my winning side by approx 30-50% pulling back any additional profits to my "Bankroll".

*At this point, I hope to catch a run of Bankers or Players to reach my "Short Term Goal"

*I never play a full 75-80 hand shoe. Instead I leave shortly after I've made either a $200.00 Minimum Profit, or 20 hand limit has been reached win or lose, or catch a runner of Bankers/Players to an end of the streak.

http://youtu.be/re3BBJ3GOB4 (http://youtu.be/re3BBJ3GOB4)

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QuoteFeel free to try this betting with many score cards posted to give you a taste of how my methods work.
Don't be afraid of the losing tables, because there are many and they are easy to walk away from by simply limiting each session to about 20 hands. You will also notice in reaching a 200.00 goal in many sessions can be easily done within 7-15 hands average.

Enjoy.

Guys, if you have any questions in reference to this video posted feel free to ask and I'll put together a custom video to explain in more detail about my other methods to better assist you with the game of Baccarat.

I can't work miracles, but I can increase your chances of winning by simply showing you some cool tips to better your everyday play and maybe put a few bucks in your pocket.

QuotePlease keep in mind that my Methods, Tips, and experiences are for your educational purposes only and I do not care if you win or lose your money.

QuoteWhat I see in the game of "Baccarat"

1) I see consecutive runs of 13-18 Bankers / Players at least "Twice" a day in the Casino. (2 out of 100 games)
By seeing this with my own eyes, I know it is possible to catch again and again and again.

2) I see approximately 75% of the tables are bad throughout the day (Not showing any consecutive Banker or Player runs. (If you are stuck playing at one of these tables, this is a good opportunity to utilize a "20 hand table Limit" and leave the table "Win or Lose")

3) I see consecutive runs of 8 Bankers / Players at least "Twenty times" a day in the Casino. (20 out of 100 games)
That's 20 x $500.00 = $10,000.00 Per Day "Potential Income".
(If I set a "Short Term Goal" to make $1000.00 per day, and knowing a consecutive run of 8 gives me a $500.00 profit potential twenty times per day, I should have no problem reaching my goal for the day by simply catching just a couple of these.)

4) I see many tables having consecutive runs of 3 and 4 in a row allowing me to make approximately $200.00 to $300.00 within the first 20 hands (sometimes as little as 6 hands) many times throughout the day.

5) I must say that the game of Baccarat is the best game I've ever played in knowing that the frequent consecutive runs can provide anyone with the opportunity to make quite a comfortable living day after day by simply following my methods described.

For those of you who use their "Player Rewards Card", you've probably noticed I've bet just over $1200.00 in just the 11 hands. Playing this way with a $1000.00 Bank roll allows for a good 6-8 hrs of play totaling approx $28,000.00 per day for each "Partner" betting the same way. (One bets "Banker" only and the other bets "Player" only) This type of play opens a nice window for Free rooms, Food, Entertainment to good concerts, Gift shop & more.

So enjoy the program and don't forget to hand in your "Player Rewards Card" at every table!!!

QuoteBaccarat Professional Gambler - (Must have) System Requirements

1) A Positive and Professional Attitude at all times.
2) A Bank Roll ($1000.00 is Perfect starting Bankroll) Leave all the rest at home.
3) A Short Term Goal  20% over your Bankroll is adequate for each Session
(Casino's are open 24hrs a day and never run out of money)
4) A Long Term Goal of $1000.00 per day is pretty good for starters.
5) Dress Nice and Be Hygiene friendly. (Don't gamble if you smell like yesterdays underwear)
Have some respect for other Gamblers / Dealers at your table.
6) Basic Knowledge of the Game. (Take 20-60 minutes and learn how the game is played) Don't just jump in and expect to win.

That covers just about everything for now.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 17, 2013, 06:54:31 AM
makes sense , I have been playing partner bacc for a couple of years with old friends from the baccarat forum.on this one I think the strategy is they are waiting for one side to get ahead 3 or 4 steps ahead of the other side--(Player-Banker)---if its an even shoe or close to it for awhile they lose--just my first thought after reading this....
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 17, 2013, 07:11:34 AM
we have used several bet selections and they worked 90% of the shoes. mostly positive progressions. Im just back from a casino and will check the chart out tomorrow. handing the chip over is just away of keeping the losing player in the game until the loser takes off, they must play with a set amount the 1 k for each shoe--probably never buy back in, in the same shoe? they might have figured out that they make the 200 or whatever 6x to one burnout or maybe even better?
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: BacDealer on October 17, 2013, 07:19:06 AM
Quote from: Tomla on October 17, 2013, 07:11:34 AM
we have used several bet selections and they worked 90% of the shoes. mostly positive progressions. Im just back from a casino and will check the chart out tomorrow. handing the chip over is just away of keeping the losing player in the game until the loser takes off, they must play with a set amount the 1 k for each shoe--probably never buy back in, in the same shoe? they might have figured out that they make the 200 or whatever 6x to one burnout or maybe even better?

These games from the score cards show 2 losses from a total of 8. I'm currently off work for a bit so I will go again on October 17th to get more results.

I've tried this all at home for a few weeks and do notice an  average loss of 6 games in 10 from (Taken from an average of 100 Games Played) many of the older games show same winning amounts and the losses experienced are small, roughly about 10-15% of a 1000.00 Bank roll.

I've seen many system style players win and lose, but this one shows to be somewhat of an eye opener as I see these guys play for quite a while on the same bank roll. (Approx 6-7hrs).
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 17, 2013, 08:40:41 PM
Looks like a pretty good strategy to me,,,I wouldn't make the bets that require giving up the vig etc because at my casino you can sit out unless no one else is betting.
But overall I like it--I'm going to spend some more time looking at it after i finish my last (thanks for that) roulette test tomorrow.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 22, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
Im going to test some on old Bacc shoes in the USA morn tommorow--will post results
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: BacDealer on October 22, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
Updated very first post. Enjoy the video.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Blood Angel on October 22, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: BacDealer on October 22, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
Enjoy the video.

I did, thank you!
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 22, 2013, 08:41:20 PM
I see the video now-thank you! wasn't there a write up on how to play it somewhere? I get the basic concept
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: nOrMy2o0o on October 22, 2013, 09:04:36 PM
Thanks for the video,

but it would nice to read the betting strategy as my english is not 100% [smiley]aes/erm.png[/smiley]
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Big EZ on October 22, 2013, 10:06:14 PM
Can you post the progression back up please......idk why you would take that down
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on October 23, 2013, 02:45:12 AM
The progression is clear pretty much I was going to work it out on old bacc scorecards,
but he's always giving partner the extra q ,
that's what interested me.

In essence he's trying to get ahead 4- 5 times by one side or another
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: BacDealer on October 23, 2013, 09:11:13 AM
Updated very first post with more info on methods.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Pockets on October 23, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
Instead of playing both sides, how different is it from a positive progression on a series to form with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units. Atleast you will not lose all the commission you are giving for the bank.

I don't see any advantage of playing with a partner here, unless someone can correct me.

You observe one hand. It is player, start betting on player with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
If you see bank, start betting on bank with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
When you lose, switch sides.

It is essentially a positive progression on FTL. Am I making sense?
I will stand corrected if my understanding and reading of this is wrong.

I am doing the maths, and am seeing that am saving on the commission.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: BacDealer on October 23, 2013, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Pockets on October 23, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
Instead of playing both sides, how different is it from a positive progression on a series to form with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units. Atleast you will not lose all the commission you are giving for the bank.

I don't see any advantage of playing with a partner here, unless someone can correct me.

You observe one hand. It is player, start betting on player with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
If you see bank, start betting on bank with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
When you lose, switch sides.

It is essentially a positive progression on FTL. Am I making sense?
I will stand corrected if my understanding and reading of this is wrong.

I am doing the maths, and am seeing that am saving on the commission.

If you play this way you will lose out on many runs resulting in normal play. you will lose your bank roll.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Pockets on October 24, 2013, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: BacDealer on October 23, 2013, 07:01:59 PM
If you play this way you will lose out on many runs resulting in normal play. you will lose your bank roll.
This is not my way of playing, this is what you described as your system.

Before I explain what am describing with an example, let me try understanding your system without any doubt. For a moment, let us assume that there is no commission on banker. Lets see a streak of 20 hands that is - BPPPBBPBPPPBBBBBBPBB

Now lets play with what you described in this post. Bacdealer, can you confirm, whether am playing it right?

[csv=,]
Result,Partner playing P,Partner playing B,Team result,Team total
B,-25,25,0,0
P,25,-50,-25,-25
P,50,-25,25,0
P,75,-25,50,50
B,-50,25,-25,25
B,-25,50,25,50
P,25,-75,-50,0
B,-50,25,-25,-25
P,25,-50,-25,-50
P,50,-25,25,-25
P,75,-25,50,25
B,-50,25,-25,0
B,-25,50,25,25
B,-25,75,50,75
B,-25,50,25,100
B,-25,75,50,150
B,-25,100,75,225
P,25,-125,-100,125
B,-50,25,-25,100
B,-25,50,25,125
[/csv]

A profit of 125$ in 20 hands. Is this the right way to play Bacdealer?


Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: ezmark on June 01, 2014, 04:05:52 AM
 Greetings,
I know this is an  old thread , but had to take a look.
I'm I correct that this is a simple follow the run betting method. 
And the complimentary secondary 25 dollar bet isn't needed because you can adjust your primary bet by the same amount. 

And I must hit a run within the first 20 hands,  the first 19 % of the shoe.

So there are approx. 20 big winning shoes a day,  but what percentage happened with in the first 20 hands ?

Ok here's the mind twister, we have hands,  bets,  and shoes,  to consider...

There 80 bad shoes  I assume are those that do not have ANY runs ,    and    20 good shoes, those that do ...
of  which I will lose some of the 20 good shoes because I will hit my stop point - 20 bets  before my win point +$200, 

Lets look at the 20 good shoes first.
Lets say I  lose an optimistic 10 shoes hitting my stop point first  ( someone said they lost 6 of 10 ,  60%  so optimistic lets say 50%)  and win 10 shoes,  only half of the good 20,  And that I'm  negative some bets  each 10 shoes I lost.  (someone say 10%  $100   to   15% $150 of the $1000 bankroll  each losing shoe) , 10 x $100 to $150 = $1,000 to $1,500 loss  lets average -$1,300   and what remains is 10 shoes  I win +200 my stop win.  10 x $200 =   +$2,000    SO  I'm plus $700 on the good shoes.
NOW the bad shoes,   I will lose some or all  of the 80 bad shoes lets say 10 % to 15% of my bankroll on average each shoe,    $130 each shoe for simple math.  80 x $130 =  - $10,400 

So I will lose 10,400   and win  700   ?     is my math bad ?   Or is my luck bad ? 
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: baccking on June 19, 2014, 04:20:58 AM
Quote from: Pockets on October 24, 2013, 10:25:11 AM
This is not my way of playing, this is what you described as your system.

Before I explain what am describing with an example, let me try understanding your system without any doubt. For a moment, let us assume that there is no commission on banker. Lets see a streak of 20 hands that is - BPPPBBPBPPPBBBBBBPBB

Now lets play with what you described in this post. Bacdealer, can you confirm, whether am playing it right?

[csv=,]
Result,Partner playing P,Partner playing B,Team result,Team total
B,-25,25,0,0
P,25,-50,-25,-25
P,50,-25,25,0
P,75,-25,50,50
B,-50,25,-25,25
B,-25,50,25,50
P,25,-75,-50,0
B,-50,25,-25,-25
P,25,-50,-25,-50
P,50,-25,25,-25
P,75,-25,50,25
B,-50,25,-25,0
B,-25,50,25,25
B,-25,75,50,75
B,-25,50,25,100
B,-25,75,50,150
B,-25,100,75,225
P,25,-125,-100,125
B,-50,25,-25,100
B,-25,50,25,125
[/csv]

A profit of 125$ in 20 hands. Is this the right way to play Bacdealer?




Well done
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Tomla on June 20, 2014, 05:29:18 AM
it works
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: RichBailey86 on August 04, 2014, 01:00:19 PM
I'm looking to try this at my local casino........they have the organic baccarat, it uses real decks of cars with a mechanical arm........I went yesterday and saw plenty of P and B streaks which would have yielded profit if i used this system....and I don't need a partner because I can bet on both on the terminal screen.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: RichBailey86 on August 05, 2014, 11:11:36 PM
the video is good but would be better if it said what to do if banker hit and messed up the streak. need MORE info
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: 777vic on August 06, 2014, 10:05:49 AM
Its very easy Rich, u just start over again 25 on player and 50 on banker and hope for a long streak on the banker. you are winning on the streaks and losing on the opesits
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Rolex-Watch on August 06, 2014, 02:11:37 PM
Betting 25 after any single to go to two, i.e follow the last hand, OR betting the difference after any double to go to three!

What did I miss??
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: Atlantis on August 08, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
I am also interested to know if the way pockets played was correct or not?

A.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: 777vic on August 12, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Anyone tested this for a longer period? It started well but now it dosnt go well. Would be nice if anyone have tested it to see if it works in the long run
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: HunchBacShrimp on June 19, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
Been reading through the entire board backwards from page 6. Came across this old thread and wanted to comment because I am familiar with the method.
 
It is quite simply nothing more than utilizing the bet selection of FLD on both Banker and Player. Using a positive progression of 1 2 1 2 3 4 5 .....

There is no reason or advantage to play this with a partner. In fact, as mentioned earlier in the thread it only accumulates more money lost to commission. You will not miss out on any runs or bust your BR any sooner without a partner.

Just subtract the the value of your partners bet from your bet. I think I came across someone a few years ago calling this differential betting. I could be wrong about that, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Decision   Banker bet  Player bet

B               no bet          no bet
P               -25               nb
P               nb                 +25
P               nb                 +50
B               nb                 -25
B               +25               nb
P               -50                nb
B                nb                -25
P                -25                nb
P                 nb                +25
P                nb                 +50
B                 nb                -25
B                 +25              nb
B                +50                nb
B                 +25               nb
B                +50                nb
B                +75                nb
P                -100               nb
B                 nb                 -25
B                 +25                nb
_______________________
                 +75                 +50       = 125 same as above, without the added loss of commission on unnecessary bets on Banker

Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: tdx on June 19, 2015, 10:28:34 PM
As mentioned in the thread, just hope you don't keep getting shoes with a lot of chops (PBPBPB  etc ) or the terrible twos (PPBBPPBBPPBB etc )

If you do, its back to your day job.
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: AsymBacGuy on June 19, 2015, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on June 19, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
Just subtract the the value of your partners bet from your bet. I think I came across someone a few years ago calling this differential betting. I could be wrong about that, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Your memory serves you right.

as. 
Title: Re: Partners Playing Baccarat and doing well.
Post by: soxfan on June 20, 2015, 12:13:19 AM
The Frank Barstow was a huge proponent of the partnership style of play, hey hey.