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[Pockets]

If you play this way you will lose out on many runs resulting in normal play. you will lose your bank roll.

This is not my way of playing, this is what you described as your system.

Before I explain what am describing with an example, let me try understanding your system without any doubt. For a moment, let us assume that there is no commission on banker. Lets see a streak of 20 hands that is - BPPPBBPBPPPBBBBBBPBB

Now lets play with what you described in this post. Bacdealer, can you confirm, whether am playing it right?

[csv=,]
Result,Partner playing P,Partner playing B,Team result,Team total
B,-25,25,0,0
P,25,-50,-25,-25
P,50,-25,25,0
P,75,-25,50,50
B,-50,25,-25,25
B,-25,50,25,50
P,25,-75,-50,0
B,-50,25,-25,-25
P,25,-50,-25,-50
P,50,-25,25,-25
P,75,-25,50,25
B,-50,25,-25,0
B,-25,50,25,25
B,-25,75,50,75
B,-25,50,25,100
B,-25,75,50,150
B,-25,100,75,225
P,25,-125,-100,125
B,-50,25,-25,100
B,-25,50,25,125
[/csv]

A profit of 125$ in 20 hands. Is this the right way to play Bacdealer?

[ezmark]

 Greetings,
I know this is an  old thread , but had to take a look.
I'm I correct that this is a simple follow the run betting method. 
And the complimentary secondary 25 dollar bet isn't needed because you can adjust your primary bet by the same amount. 

And I must hit a run within the first 20 hands,  the first 19 % of the shoe.

So there are approx. 20 big winning shoes a day,  but what percentage happened with in the first 20 hands ?

Ok here's the mind twister, we have hands,  bets,  and shoes,  to consider...

There 80 bad shoes  I assume are those that do not have ANY runs ,    and    20 good shoes, those that do ...
of  which I will lose some of the 20 good shoes because I will hit my stop point - 20 bets  before my win point +$200, 

Lets look at the 20 good shoes first.
Lets say I  lose an optimistic 10 shoes hitting my stop point first  ( someone said they lost 6 of 10 ,  60%  so optimistic lets say 50%)  and win 10 shoes,  only half of the good 20,  And that I'm  negative some bets  each 10 shoes I lost.  (someone say 10%  $100   to   15% $150 of the $1000 bankroll  each losing shoe) , 10 x $100 to $150 = $1,000 to $1,500 loss  lets average -$1,300   and what remains is 10 shoes  I win +200 my stop win.  10 x $200 =   +$2,000    SO  I'm plus $700 on the good shoes.
NOW the bad shoes,   I will lose some or all  of the 80 bad shoes lets say 10 % to 15% of my bankroll on average each shoe,    $130 each shoe for simple math.  80 x $130 =  - $10,400 

So I will lose 10,400   and win  700   ?     is my math bad ?   Or is my luck bad ? 

[baccking]

This is not my way of playing, this is what you described as your system.

Before I explain what am describing with an example, let me try understanding your system without any doubt. For a moment, let us assume that there is no commission on banker. Lets see a streak of 20 hands that is - BPPPBBPBPPPBBBBBBPBB

Now lets play with what you described in this post. Bacdealer, can you confirm, whether am playing it right?

[csv=,]
Result,Partner playing P,Partner playing B,Team result,Team total
B,-25,25,0,0
P,25,-50,-25,-25
P,50,-25,25,0
P,75,-25,50,50
B,-50,25,-25,25
B,-25,50,25,50
P,25,-75,-50,0
B,-50,25,-25,-25
P,25,-50,-25,-50
P,50,-25,25,-25
P,75,-25,50,25
B,-50,25,-25,0
B,-25,50,25,25
B,-25,75,50,75
B,-25,50,25,100
B,-25,75,50,150
B,-25,100,75,225
P,25,-125,-100,125
B,-50,25,-25,100
B,-25,50,25,125
[/csv]

A profit of 125$ in 20 hands. Is this the right way to play Bacdealer?

Well done

[Tomla]

it works

[RichBailey86]

I'm looking to try this at my local casino........they have the organic baccarat, it uses real decks of cars with a mechanical arm........I went yesterday and saw plenty of P and B streaks which would have yielded profit if i used this system....and I don't need a partner because I can bet on both on the terminal screen.

[RichBailey86]

the video is good but would be better if it said what to do if banker hit and messed up the streak. need MORE info

[777vic]

Its very easy Rich, u just start over again 25 on player and 50 on banker and hope for a long streak on the banker. you are winning on the streaks and losing on the opesits

[Rolex-Watch]

Betting 25 after any single to go to two, i.e follow the last hand, OR betting the difference after any double to go to three!

What did I miss??

[Atlantis]

I am also interested to know if the way pockets played was correct or not?

A.

[777vic]

Anyone tested this for a longer period? It started well but now it dosnt go well. Would be nice if anyone have tested it to see if it works in the long run

[HunchBacShrimp]

Been reading through the entire board backwards from page 6. Came across this old thread and wanted to comment because I am familiar with the method.
 
It is quite simply nothing more than utilizing the bet selection of FLD on both Banker and Player. Using a positive progression of 1 2 1 2 3 4 5 .....

There is no reason or advantage to play this with a partner. In fact, as mentioned earlier in the thread it only accumulates more money lost to commission. You will not miss out on any runs or bust your BR any sooner without a partner.

Just subtract the the value of your partners bet from your bet. I think I came across someone a few years ago calling this differential betting. I could be wrong about that, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Decision   Banker bet  Player bet

B               no bet          no bet
P               -25               nb
P               nb                 +25
P               nb                 +50
B               nb                 -25
B               +25               nb
P               -50                nb
B                nb                -25
P                -25                nb
P                 nb                +25
P                nb                 +50
B                 nb                -25
B                 +25              nb
B                +50                nb
B                 +25               nb
B                +50                nb
B                +75                nb
P                -100               nb
B                 nb                 -25
B                 +25                nb
_______________________
                 +75                 +50       = 125 same as above, without the added loss of commission on unnecessary bets on Banker

[tdx]

As mentioned in the thread, just hope you don't keep getting shoes with a lot of chops (PBPBPB  etc ) or the terrible twos (PPBBPPBBPPBB etc )

If you do, its back to your day job.

[AsymBacGuy]

Just subtract the the value of your partners bet from your bet. I think I came across someone a few years ago calling this differential betting. I could be wrong about that, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Your memory serves you right.

as. 

[soxfan]

The Frank Barstow was a huge proponent of the partnership style of play, hey hey.