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Title: Perception
Post by: alrelax on July 12, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
So much influence at the table from a player's take on perception.

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Title: Re: Perception
Post by: AsymBacGuy on July 15, 2017, 12:53:37 AM
Lol. Great contribute, Al!

as.

Title: Re: Perception
Post by: owenslv on July 15, 2017, 03:18:25 AM
So simple, yet so profound
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Albalaha on July 15, 2017, 06:45:08 AM
Sadly, mathematics has no room for perceptions.
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: greenguy on July 15, 2017, 08:14:53 AM
Quote from: Albalaha on July 15, 2017, 06:45:08 AM
Sadly, mathematics has no room for perceptions.

Who said anything about mathematics?
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2017, 02:59:55 PM
Perception is Everything!

In Gambling....
In Love........
In Business......
In School.....
In Sports....
In Personal Life.....
In your Home.....
In your Self-improvement
In your Health....
In your Outlook for your family-yourself-your future....
In Everything......Seriously Applies 110% 24/7 and 365.

Perception is Angle.  The correct mixture of recognition with 'experienced player feelings' will allow a smart player to have the perception of events that WILL/COULD/SHOULD lead to the possible clear vision of the pending formations to be produced by the shoe.  Those pending formations, no matter what they are, are not going to be adherent to any statistical data that can be derived from any testing or tests that have been documented.  The best ammunition and the most successful players have tremendous of, clear and concise---from every direction and angle, PERCEPTION.

And, why are those shoes you are sitting down to gamble at, 'not adherent' to any statistical data or testing?  For the simple fact they were not part of that testing you desire to link them to and as well, they have better than a 50% chance to be in the minority part of any statistical testing data that made up the statistical data you want to apply to your gambling.  And as difficult as it may be to the majority of you guys, that is exactly the reason when you place your 'sure wager' that was placed on statistical and testing data only, that wager does not win the highest majority of the time.

Without Perception, all you would have is statistical and mathematical data and results that will not apply the majority of the time to the trivial amount of shoes you will be gambling against.   
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2017, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: greenguy on July 15, 2017, 08:14:53 AM
Who said anything about mathematics?

Thank you. Well said.....
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: 21 Aces on July 15, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
In Love........

FML THREAD CLOSED
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: esoito on July 15, 2017, 11:18:31 PM
Quote from: Albalaha on July 15, 2017, 06:45:08 AM
Sadly, mathematics has no room for perceptions.

Totally wrong....again.

Perceptions are defined as:
The representation of what is perceived; basic component in the formation of a concept

Which is exactly what is involved in mathematics! QED
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Albalaha on July 16, 2017, 05:43:12 AM
Your perception could be illusory and faulty, maths is eternal and definite. I hope you got the difference.
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Mike on July 16, 2017, 07:47:53 AM
Albalaha,

Wikipedia has an excellent article on Mathematics, I highly recommend that you read it. Your view is common, but rather misleading. A mathematical argument, model, or  equation gives the impression of definiteness and precision, but in fact it is only as good as the premises which form the basis of it, just like any other argument. Garbage in, Garbage out.

QuoteMathematicians seek out patterns[9][10] and use them to formulate new conjectures. Mathematicians resolve the truth or falsity of conjectures by mathematical proof. When mathematical structures are good models of real phenomena, then mathematical reasoning can provide insight or predictions about nature.

Note the "when" in the last sentence above. Just because an argument or conclusion is formulated in mathematical terms, it doesn't mean that it's true. It's the difference between a sound argument and a valid one. An argument can be valid even if its premises are false; only if the premises are true is the argument a sound one.

Furthermore, there is no consensus, even among mathematicians, of what mathematics actually IS.

QuoteThere is a range of views among mathematicians and philosophers as to the exact scope and definition of mathematics.[7][8]

QuoteToday, no consensus on the definition of mathematics prevails, even among professionals.[7] There is not even consensus on whether mathematics is an art or a science.[8] A great many professional mathematicians take no interest in a definition of mathematics, or consider it undefinable.[7] Some just say, "Mathematics is what mathematicians do."

Three leading types of definition of mathematics are called logicist, intuitionist, and formalist, each reflecting a different philosophical school of thought.[30] All have severe problems, none has widespread acceptance, and no reconciliation seems possible.[30]

Then there's Einstein's famous quote:

QuoteAlbert Einstein (1879–1955) stated that "as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."[16]

Mathematics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics)
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: alrelax on July 16, 2017, 09:01:34 AM
Even if math is a science and say (it does not but for sake of argument we will say it does) at baccarat.  No matter what you follow it has to change and it is impossible to know in advance what and when anything will occur or be regressed.  Correct wagering will and always will be partly influenced by the players perceptions he is formulating.  80 events is a miniscule amount of trials and no mathematical preset order or statistical method can be established, followed, or set for those  80 events due to the shuffle and cut and burn card being conducted prior to the happening of those 80 events, causing each one of those shoes to be formulated with a different order of result dispatching. 
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Mike on July 16, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
"Reality can be so complex that equally valid observations from differing perspectives can appear to be contradictory."

True, but I think it's important to realize that reality itself can never be contradictory, although it can appear to be. If it "appears to be" then it means you're missing some information.
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Mars Rocks on July 16, 2017, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: Mike on July 16, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
"Reality can be so complex that equally valid observations from differing perspectives can appear to be contradictory."

True, but I think it's important to realize that reality itself can never be contradictory, although it can appear to be. If it "appears to be" then it means you're missing some information.

Reality doesn't exist if you aren't looking at it.  It even gets worse, the future can rewrite the past.
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: 8OR9 on July 16, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
If string theory can ever be proven mathematically, there may be 10, 11 or 26 dimensions in addition to our current three            (height, length and depth )        ( or 4 if you include time )........and those dimensions may be currently existing but we unfortunately can not experience them with our five senses......so now what would be the correct definition of reality ???   

"In my Father's house there are many mansions"
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: Mike on July 16, 2017, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: Mars Rocks on July 16, 2017, 12:00:38 PM
Reality doesn't exist if you aren't looking at it. 

Even the guy in the video doesn't say that. The Copenhagen interpretation is just one of many.

QuoteOne of the great scandals of modern intellectual life is the way that physicists brushed the problems of quantum mechanics under the carpet throughout the twentieth century. Led by Niels Bohr and his obscurantist "Copenhagen interpretation" of quantum mechanics, they told generations of students that the glaring inconsistencies apparent in the theory were none of their business. "Shut up and calculate" was the typical response to any undergraduate who had the temerity to query the cogency of the theory. (This slogan has been variously attributed to Paul Dirac, Richard Feynman and others. The indeterminacy of the attribution is itself a testimony to the prevalence of the attitude.)

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/philosophy-simply-harder-science/
Title: Re: Perception
Post by: alrelax on July 21, 2017, 06:17:15 PM

What happens at the table while engaged in a game of baccarat will generally be perceived as 'reality'.  No matter if those were 'truly fallacy', 'absolutely real', or any form of anything in between those two.  Something that always quickly turns and leaves you with being somewhere you really don't want to be.  Problem is, you don't know it.