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Playing baccarat for living?

Started by Drewm, June 05, 2016, 03:53:48 AM

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Donkeyskillz

I don't't have any triggers as I just leave the casino if I am up for the session and that's all I do really well. I limit my bankroll exposure to 8 units so that is the most I can ever lose so I don't go on monkey tilt on any given day and lose thousands because I got pissed off and double up on  BANKER and player wins again and go home a broke behind loser. I had  1 session in May where I lost 5 units to player wins and only won 3 units on my BANKER bets. I did not add those 3 units to my session bankroll and took those 3 units home and recorded my session as a loss of 5 units.

As players we can only control when we enter the game and when we leave the game, and how many units we lose when we are wrong on any given day. Anything else is
pure bs when it comes to baccarat. As I have said I don't claim to be a pro in anyway in a -ev game as I understand variance really well and the casino's edge which is why
I hit and run and get the hell out of the casino if I am up a couple of units in a session. Some people play for pure pleasure and entertainment only and others play to try and make some money. Both groups will have a completely different approach to this game.

Donkeyskillz

My units are $50 and I take $400 per session only or 2k per week as I play about 5 days on average. My biggest win was 9 units in any one session in May and my biggest
loss was -5 units in May as well. That day Player side won 5 times and I only correctly bet Banker 3 times and did not add those 3 units to my session  roll of 8 units. How I got to 8 units is I had many small wins on average when I was winning but when I lost I would lose the 100 plus units I brought to the casino when I had a bad day. Recovering a 100 plus units cann take days or even weeks and I eventually did not see the point of a 100 plus unit session bankroll. Last week I only netted 27 units so at that rate it would take me about 3.5 weeks to recover 1 bad day of a 100 unit loss just to break even for the month. Even worse i could have more than one 100 unit loss in the same month and a much longer recovery point.

For myself losing 8 units takes about 1.5 sessions at the most to recover if I was to lose all 8 units in a single session and that is why I chose to no longer take 5k to any given session that I play.

21 Aces

Quote from: Donkeyskillz on June 10, 2016, 04:55:57 PM
My units are $50 and I take $400 per session only or 2k per week as I play about 5 days on average. My biggest win was 9 units in any one session in May and my biggest
loss was -5 units in May as well. That day Player side won 5 times and I only correctly bet Banker 3 times and did not add those 3 units to my session  roll of 8 units. How I got to 8 units is I had many small wins on average when I was winning but when I lost I would lose the 100 plus units I brought to the casino when I had a bad day. Recovering a 100 plus units cann take days or even weeks and I eventually did not see the point of a 100 plus unit session bankroll. Last week I only netted 27 units so at that rate it would take me about 3.5 weeks to recover 1 bad day of a 100 unit loss just to break even for the month. Even worse i could have more than one 100 unit loss in the same month and a much longer recovery point.

For myself losing 8 units takes about 1.5 sessions at the most to recover if I was to lose all 8 units in a single session and that is why I chose to no longer take 5k to any given session that I play.

Since nobody on here has any sense of what you have actually posted, why don't you explain your 21 minute average session time.  I'm working on 20 minutes and almost have it perfected.  Thanks for playing.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

Donkeyskillz

If I am up a couple of units I take them home with me and I don't risk more units than I can win in any one session. Should be simple to understand

21 Aces

Quote from: Donkeyskillz on June 11, 2016, 02:25:19 AM
If I am up a couple of units I take them home with me and I don't risk more units than I can win in any one session. Should be simple to understand

I happen to play in the real world and I think your estimate of play time and performance is either way off or you don't play.  ^This is not what you stated.  What you specifically stated is in line with my first comment to your first post.  You roll in and get on lighting fast win streaks in a blistering average time of 21 minutes and jet.  Of course here in la la land where most everyone believes that nobody wins, everyone believes you.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

Donkeyskillz

All i stated in my first post  was that my last 5 sessions lasted 1.75 hours only. I never stated that all my sessions lasted this long so it is quite obvious i caught a couple of banker bets and got the hell out of the casino. If I take 8 units to the casino it will not be a 10 hour grind. I will either be up or down rather quickly for the session

Garfield

@Donkey

Don't sweat it. Some understood what your point and some didn't. Don't take part in any cat fight that are going to start.
You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

bacply

I play ties when a new dealer takes over,  plus I will play for tie on the last hand of the shoe if there has been 12 or more ties in the shoe.  This has worked fairly well for me.  Also, I sometimes see a tie on one of the first four hands of the shoe.

21 Aces

Quote from: Garfield on June 11, 2016, 05:36:20 AM
@Donkey

Don't sweat it. Some understood what your point and some didn't. Don't take part in any cat fight that are going to start.

I fully understood exactly what he stated and if you and the rest here believe it, it clearly demonstrates that you do not play.  BTW, I'm working on 20 Minute Baccarat.  Book to be released soon.  BOFL and I hope the hell you all know what the 'F' stands for.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

21 Aces

Quote from: alrelax on June 22, 2016, 05:45:23 PM
20 Min Baccarat, lots of talk about complete shoes played these days in well under 20 mins?? :o

BOFL,  Bust Out Frigging Laughing or Bad Odor Fart Licking.  ;D

Quote from: Donkeyskillz on June 07, 2016, 12:18:34 AM
Hi this is my first post and i would like to give my opinion on gambling for a living. I just moved to Vegas from Canada in april as my american wife could not stand the snow any longer and had me immigrate . My wife is a poker dealer at the WSOP for 6 weeks a year which is where I met her 2 years ago. I now live 15 minutes from the casino that I go to every day here in Vegas.

I started out as a blackjack counter in Canada years ago when the casinos first open. Eventually they started using shuffle machines and moved on real quickly to a game I knew nothing about called bacarrat. It was a comment from a pit boss that he had never saw a shoe that never had a tie in it and that peaked my interest and entered games where no ties occured in the first 35 hands etc and every possible strategy one could possibly think of.

I keep perfect records of all my sessions including date, casino, result, and time invested
I never  bet plaver and always bet banker
My session bankroll is 8 units and if I lose it I go home
All bets won go home with me every time regardless if the session is up or down so any bets won do not ever get added to my session bankroll and get rebet
When I am winning and finally lose a bet I cash out and go home and never risk losing any units won EVER
When I am winning it usually happens within the first 30 minutes so I keep my sessions short

My last 5 sessions netted me 27 units for the week (5.5, 4.7, 4.5, 5.1, 7.2) and I invested a total of 1.75 hours. The partial units is because I side bet  banker for dealer when i am winning. When I am up and lose a bet I go home with the profit every time I play and never give into greed and have 100 % self control. My wife keeps her own records of date and amount won/loss only and takes all the money and keeps it in a separate account so even if I had the impulse to play my wiinnings I only have access to my 8 units per session and that's all i will enter the casino with EVER. I will not go so far to say I am a  professional  but at the moment this is how I am making money in Vegas each day.

I really don't care anymore, but this is a very detailed and strong statement about play performance which I believe is next to impossible to achieve.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

21 Aces

Great question.  The reason I responded is that in order for a site like this to have any credibility with respect to a game like baccarat, people that post should point out things that don't make sense or are incorrect.  The fact that in this instance nobody else is really questioning was surprising, but not surprising at all.

Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

marinetech

Quote from: alrelax on June 22, 2016, 10:42:20 PM
So, in all seriousness 21Aces, you consider yourself a baccarat expert??  Is that correct?

Is there such a thing as a baccarat expert? If you know the rules, super, if you know all the bets, great. But, does that make one an expert? Maybe, maybe not? You can have all the knowledge in the world and it still won't always help you win, usually, it's quite the opposite. The more you know, the worse you do.....

soxfan

Most cats ain't serious about makin their living at the baccarats tables so they should stick to playing for "fun", hey hey.

MarkTeruya

Big Al only plays for fun, it was so much fun he doesn't maintain records, has no idea if he is up or do since 1979.  The usual excuse big losers use to avoid admitting the exact amount squandered (hic).  Going by him claims, it must be in the millions (hic).  You would of thought any sane person would have stopped by now, but no, my guess a lot of the company profits are still finding it's way to the chip trays (hic, slurp, hic, burb).   

Drewm

Well I was thinking(maybe Ben hoping) there will be lot more people actually playing Bacc for their income.... Here in Midwest area, I see or hear quiet of few people doing it to making living and wanted to read their back ground stories...

Regardless thanks all you guys taking time to post your ideas and stories. 😀😉👍🏻😎✌🏻👌