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[soxfan]

The vast majority of cats ain't got what it takes to make the baccarats their fulltime gig. It's that simple, hey hey.

[marinetech]

The vast majority of cats ain't got what it takes to make the baccarats their fulltime gig. It's that simple, hey hey.

more of a dog person myself, ruff ruff.

[RolexWatch]

no one on this board plays baccarat solely for their income. I would bet on that, quite large btw......

I've told you I do, have done so for many years.  Ok, how am I suppose to confirm, collect, what evidence do you require without me revealing all my personal details?   I get it though, by the sheer number of people I have shared a table with in the last decade, 99% of them treat it as entertainment, win, lose, get upset, be happy, go home.  So I can fully understand anybody playing this game being sceptical, because most struggle.

nobody here makes a living solely playing baccarat. I would wager a large sum of money on that...

this is the internet and anyone can say anything. i can say im the pope or i own microsoft, now what? debunk it please........

I accept your wager, how much we talking, what needs to be done to prove it?  Just to let you know, I do understand where you are coming from, you've struggled and don't believe anybody else can pull it off.  I've felt that way at the tables many many times, it's takes a lot of patience, buckets of it.  It drives me up the wall sometimes, yet this it what it takes to be able to pull it off, patience and self-control, especially when it seems each time to bet Banker the Player pulls a natural straight off the bat, yeah once or twice I can handle.  Often when I've got one foot out the door and I'm cursing like a MF, that is when you dig deep inside and relax.     

Anyone playing bac ( full time or just for entertainment ) should record all his results on a spreadsheet  ( casino played, time played, hours played, profit or loss per shoe, profit or loss per session, profit or loss per hour played )
Of course all bac players are too lazy to do the above work.

You don't need all that info, who cares about a losing shoe, it is the session outcome that matters. Personally I record, date, profit or loss, buyin, # shoes played, and briefly how I played, as well as noting any extraordinary (bonuses, promotions, marathon session), you see we aren't all lazy.   

What do you mean playing for a living? are you saying that some one can play baccarat and not having a regular job?
Sound crazy.

Why does it, BJ players do so, I've heard of people playing Roulette professionally, Sports Bettors, so why not Baccarat.

and everyone can win at it full time and put them out of business.  Thanks for the info guys!

No not everyone, and you don't need to drop $10M first either, you're welcome. 

[Sputnik]

 

Quote from: Sputnik on Yesterday at 08:28:36 am
What do you mean playing for a living? are you saying that some one can play baccarat and not having a regular job?
Sound crazy.


Why does it, BJ players do so, I've heard of people playing Roulette professionally, Sports Bettors, so why not Baccarat.

John i just don't understand how some one can make a regular income and pay - rent, food, clothes, savings, pension, bankroll - that would be 3K each mounth as minimum.

I don't fully understand the mechanism or Tools some one use to succés with that.
Regard my self as clever player with good strategies and been testing different solutions.

1) I know Three different progressions that use 30 to 40 steps and can survive 5 SD negative expectation and break even after that hudge drawdown.
But when i test you get some free weeks with no negative expectation and some weeks you can face 1 to 2 negative expectation above 3.0 SD and then you break even when you recoup or accept a small loss. But that is all theory as some session takes over 350 trails to survive such negative expectation and would mean that you can only accept a small win target at beginning of session as you would face such big drawdown would take for ever to recoup. This means that does 20% win target would not add up to 3K playing 7 Days a week for 1 mounth and we would play minimum Wager to increase up in different levels to recoup during negative expectation.


Cheers

[21 Aces]

 I once made a put up or shut up thread on a financial trading forum site where posters literally go into thousands of pages on trading systems, etc.   SHOW ME YOUR RIDE.  Nobody did.  Does it make sense to you that the prototype investor/ trader doesn't like automobiles?  Shy?

I can say point blank, there are many, many players at my house who's primary or substantial compensation is from playing.  I see their rides, I see what they wear, how they act, spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours with them.  How see how they play.  How they react when they put down big paper and get smacked.  When they win.  They all central bankers?  Into repeated self torture?   Maybe someday things will change?  They love being there until 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 am in the morning just for the thrill of the game?  A lot of traffic to the desk and cash out all of the time.  A lot of players looking like they had a crappy day all of the time.  AND I will see them tonight or sometime soon. AGAIN.  Win some, lose some, win more on balance.

In the context of a game of chance and house edge, it is possible to win.  You find the way and do it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZH8zcJUH1M

[RolexWatch]

John i just don't understand how some one can make a regular income and pay - rent, food, clothes, savings, pension, bankroll - that would be 3K each mounth as minimum.

1) I know Three different progressions that use 30 to 40 steps and can survive 5 SD negative expectation and break even after that hudge drawdown.

Firstly people can live on a lot less than 3k per month.  BTW There is no pension or even a saving scheme.

I rarely suffer huge drawdowns, I bail or am in recovery mode before it gets to that, deep drawdowns are for amateurs.

Christ typing on this forum is pretty bad isn't it, thought it might have been addressed by now.   

I once made a put up or shut up thread on a financial trading forum

What were they suppose to put up?  This is what I mean MarineTech has made a statement, I say his statement is wrong, so how do we prove it?  Do I show him my tax return, that won't tell him anything, my bank statement?  I rarely bank my winnings unless I am booking an overseas trip.  Am I suppose to fly to Vegas and demonstrate my skill?  stuff I do lose occasionally and have to grind that back over a few sessions, the last thing I want is somebody eye-balling me when I'm doing that.  How do I prove I have no job?  Maybe marinetech has something specific in mind?.

[21 Aces]

Well, I'm currently leasing, but it's a track star and very fun to drive.  So I posted it up.  Was I lying?  No.  Could I have been lying?  Yes.   But the point is the stereotypical successful Wall Street investor/ trader is into a lot of toys and nobody posted nothing.  Too conservation and reserved I guess - lol...

$3,000/ month.  How about $30,000?  We all have seen big players.  And oh yeah, they aren't profitable.  Remember, there are many reasons for people to be low profile about earnings...

[soxfan]

I personally know of a small handful of cats who make their daily bread at the dices/baccarats tables. But most cats ain't got the balls, bankroll, or burning desire to make the dices/baccarats their fulltime gig, hey hey.

[ElvisValentine]

Being survey around the internet, 5D by Kevin Achatz said to be a successful system. Anyone heard before? Member from beatthecasino.com surely do.

[Sputnik]

I personally know of a small handful of cats who make their daily bread at the dices/baccarats tables. But most cats ain't got the balls, bankroll, or burning desire to make the dices/baccarats their fulltime gig, hey hey.

How much in your opinion does some one need as lifetime bankroll and what do you mean does not having the balls, does that has to do with some one that been trying to win two in a row chicken out when he or she has to Wager 1000 units for each trail twice ...

Re: Playing baccarat for living?
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Quote from: Sputnik on Yesterday at 01:30:15 pm

John i just don't understand how some one can make a regular income and pay - rent, food, clothes, savings, pension, bankroll - that would be 3K each mounth as minimum.

1) I know Three different progressions that use 30 to 40 steps and can survive 5 SD negative expectation and break even after that hudge drawdown.


Firstly people can live on a lot less than 3k per month.  BTW There is no pension or even a saving scheme.

I rarely suffer huge drawdowns, I bail or am in recovery mode before it gets to that, deep drawdowns are for amateurs.

Christ typing on this forum is pretty bad isn't it, thought it might have been addressed by now.   

Are you saying that a staking plan should have a recovery mode or do you say all selection methods should have a grind option to recoup?

Cheers

[RolexWatch]

Are you saying that a staking plan should have a recovery mode or do you say all selection methods should have a grind option to recoup?

They sound the same thing to me.  Try not to get in to deep, grind out wins and grind back draw-downs.  It is a very rare event for me to bet 10 or more units, and is not common for me to bet even 5 or 6 units, my betting range is usually 1, 2 3 or 4 units.

[jsintl]

They sound the same thing to me.  Try not to get in to deep, grind out wins and grind back draw-downs.  It is a very rare event for me to bet 10 or more units, and is not common for me to bet even 5 or 6 units, my betting range is usually 1, 2 3 or 4 units.

Hi John, 

How many units max DD is still manageable using your 1,2,3,4 betting units.  What I noticed is the if you are 50% down of you buy in, recovery is very difficult in my case.

[RolexWatch]

If you are 50% down on your buyin, you either bet a little bit more aggressively (first bet 2u instead of 1u, or bet 1u if lose bet 3u), settle in for the long haul and grind everything back, you need to have a lot of faith in your bet selection to do this. 

Alternatively perform a chip value change and play at a higher level to recoup.  However my experience has taught me it is better to have backed off earlier before you are 50% of your buyin in the hole. This is easier said than done when you are sitting at a table.

[21 Aces]

Look at these stats and the drop off even in the top 10 batters in the entire Major League.  For some, they are the player they were and will be that.  Others will find a way to improve.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/seasontype/2

[AlCapone]

I'm trying now wish I knew a little more about it. Love this game