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Title: sputniks march
Post by: Tomla on February 10, 2016, 08:22:03 PM
Can anyone write a simple clear explanation of sputniks march : I have read the thread several times. I think I understand it then I look at Egz and Im wrong
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: marinetech on February 11, 2016, 02:19:31 AM
it is like any other method out there. works sometimes other times no.......
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: RouletteGhost on February 11, 2016, 02:21:21 AM
I believe sputnik knows what he is doing

and i also would love a clear explanation
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Gambler on February 11, 2016, 04:43:08 AM

No method or March will ever Beat the Casino..

Why do you think he closed/locked his topic? Scared of -ve comments?
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Dutchie on February 11, 2016, 05:04:40 AM
 Tomla,if you read reply 20 and 25 by Beat The Wheel you will get a feel for the march. 8)
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Sputnik on February 11, 2016, 07:20:05 AM

Tomla you can PM me ...
I will not waste my time with others who don't want to learn.

Cheers
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Bally6354 on February 11, 2016, 10:34:49 AM
Beat-The-Wheel explained the concept clearly enough in reply 20 on the other thread.

Think of it like this....you get runs of dozens/columns and one goes missing.
So you might see AACACCCA (B is missing)
133113133 (2 is missing)

So now look at the even chances.

Black/Red/Black = single (series of 1)
BlackBlack/RedRed/BlackBlack = series of 2
BlackBlackBlack/RedRedRed/BlackBlackBlack = series of 3

So the same thing is going to happen a lot with the even chances which happens with the dozens/columns. And that is that one of either single (series of 1) series of 2 or series of 3 will go missing. So you bet accordingly.

Like Beat-The-Wheel says...

Red/Black/Red/Black....these are singles
Then it goes....Red/Red/Red....so now it's went series of 3

So what are you going to do? You have had a single and a series of 3. Now you are going to bet against the series of 2 which is missing.

Black....so if you are going to bet that this can't go to a series of 2, you don't want to see a Black on the next spin, so you would bet Red. If Red comes, it has went back to singles.

It's not hard to understand the concept, I agree it's harder to follow a long list of results if you have not had much practise with it...but that's not Sputnik's fault. He has laid it out for anyone to study.

Thanks Sputnik once again. :)
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Garfield on February 11, 2016, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: Gambler on February 11, 2016, 04:43:08 AM
No method or March will ever Beat the Casino..

For this I couldn't say anything. If anyone feel the same I supposed they should quit gambling forever. Period

Why do you think he closed/locked his topic? Scared of -ve comments?

For this I said it's up to him. He's the owner. He has the right to do anything

Sorry no offense.

IMO one's result couldn't be the benchmark for this march's performance. Different player different shoe different result.


Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Garfield on February 11, 2016, 12:00:54 PM
I have a new PoV about the phrase "The house always win"

I agreed 100% with that. But, IMO, I see it as "The House" vs "10 players" for instance.

The house wins 8 of them and lost to the remaining 2.

So who you will be? The 8 or the 2?

You may be the 8 today, but the 2 tommorow vice versa.

Also, same approach would be intrepreted differently by different players.

Same pattern would be seen differently by different players.

IMO the best thing to consider is your own result. Winning? Losing? Want to quit? Still want to try?

Is this a hobby? Or is it a business?

Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Lung Yeh on February 11, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
I am a NET big loser in baccarat but still think it is beatable. Maybe I am wrong but I would still like to look out for a total holistic approach that can beat the casino. Maybe one day I will give it all up and when I do I will announce and go quietly and not bother those good souls here trying to beat the casinos.

I truly appreciate those who are on this forum propogating ideas and approaches that may be helpful in one way or another and receiving sarcasms for return! Cheers to your humility and patience.

Then there are those who proclaim with dead certainty that the game cannot be beat. So why are they here on the forum? To tell us all to quit the game? Or to cynically enjoy our exchanges and then once awhile throw their own ghastly comments? Are they looking for vindication that the world at large are suffering what they are suffering?
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Tomla on February 11, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
Thanks Bally--another step in my getting the  "I get it"  feeling ......
thanks Sputnik, any clarification helps
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Gambler on February 11, 2016, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Lung Yeh on February 11, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
I am a NET big loser in baccarat but still think it is beatable. Maybe I am wrong but I would still like to look out for a total holistic approach that can beat the casino. Maybe one day I will give it all up and when I do I will announce and go quietly and not bother those good souls here trying to beat the casinos.

I truly appreciate those who are on this forum propogating ideas and approaches that may be helpful in one way or another and receiving sarcasms for return! Cheers to your humility and patience.

Then there are those who proclaim with dead certainty that the game cannot be beat. So why are they here on the forum? To tell us all to quit the game? Or to cynically enjoy our exchanges and then once awhile throw their own ghastly comments? Are they looking for vindication that the world at large are suffering what they are suffering?

Mate - When you have discovered a winning method, please let me know...i need it real bad.
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Gambler on February 11, 2016, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: Garfield on February 11, 2016, 11:48:19 AM
Sorry no offense.

IMO one's result couldn't be the benchmark for this march's performance. Different player different shoe different result.

I didn't mean to offend anyone either, but instead of posting results and discussing the live shoes/ results, closing down the topic didn't look good...anyways as you said its upto him..

just testing with dummy app and playing with real $'s are two different things...

Also i would appreciate if you could keep us posted how long you are successful with this method...

Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: marinetech on February 11, 2016, 07:11:03 PM
the topic was closed because people started posted shoes showing the weaknesses and that it will inevitably lose like the others. Some have bigger ego's than others, simple as that really!

If a smart guy like sputnik cannot win consistently (if he did he would be printing cash not hanging out in a forum) then it's a futile attempt for the rest of us. I have tried a lot of methods as have most others here. We always get the same result......

Pit Bosses method is the simplest and one of the better ones I have seen on the internet.....

No need to complicate things. Its either P or B. Its either going to repeat or chop. That is it my friends..Twist it, call it dozen 1-2-3, call it a-b-c, call it PB & j. its all relative. RANDOM. P or B. nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Sputnik on February 11, 2016, 07:40:31 PM

that's silly ... 3.0 SD don't make your system lose ... i have many times brake even after 3.0 SD and higher.


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Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: marinetech on February 11, 2016, 08:50:45 PM
Quote from: Sputnik on February 11, 2016, 07:40:31 PM
that's silly ... 3.0 SD don't make your system lose ... i have many times brake even after 3.0 SD and higher.


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but 282 spins to just break even? that including commissions? Goal is to win money not break even. anyways, not picking on you or your system. i like it but liking something and have it make me money is 2 different things
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: TheLaw on February 11, 2016, 09:23:10 PM
Quote from: marinetech on February 11, 2016, 08:50:45 PM
but 282 spins to just break even? that including commissions? Goal is to win money not break even. anyways, not picking on you or your system. i like it but liking something and have it make me money is 2 different things

My understanding is that this would be an example of a really bad run.

Make a profit on a normal day.............survive on a bad day. :thumbsup:

Although it would be considered a grind........you can also handle very large bets, as the swings are minimal. :applause:
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: BetJack on February 11, 2016, 09:29:15 PM
Hello.
Will You help me.
I'm in search of answers...
using   "sputniks march"
someone can tell me how "you" Bet
on this
What is the answer to the "?"
spins / sign

1   X
2   O
3   X
4   X
5   X
6   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   X
5   X
6   X
7   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   X
6   X
7   X
8   ?
   
1   X
2   O
3   O
4   X
5   X
6   X
7   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O
5   X
6   X
7   X
8   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O
6   X
7   X
8   X
9   ?
   
1   X
2   O
3   O
4   O
5   X
6   X
7   X
8   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O
5   O
6   X
7   X
8   X
9   ?
   
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O
6   O
7   X
8   X
9   X
10   ?
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Big EZ on February 11, 2016, 09:45:29 PM
1   X
2   O
3   X  w
4   X  x
5   X
6   ?      no bet here
   
if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   X  x
5   X  x
6   X  x
7   ?      no bet here
   
if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   X
6   X
7   X
8   ?   no bet here
   

if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   O
3   O  x
4   X
5   X x
6   X x
7   ?      no bet here


if this is the start to a new game.... 
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O  w
5   X
6   X  w
7   X
8   ?        no bet here


if this is the start to a new game.... 
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O  w
6   X
7   X  w
8   X
9   ?         no bet here

 
1   X
2   O
3   O  x
4   O
5   X
6   X  x
7   X  w
8   ?        no bet here
 
if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O w
5   O
6   X
7   X  w
8   X
9   ?          no bet here
   

if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O  w
6   O
7   X
8   X   w
9   X
10   ?            no bet here
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: BetJack on February 11, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
THANK YOU   :)
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Sputnik on February 12, 2016, 07:45:33 AM

I will open the topic again - because i made new Discovery and will write about it.

Cheers
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: plolp on February 12, 2016, 11:37:08 AM
I tested 300 spins ( random .org )

system spoutnik : +9

spoutnik reverse : +11

both methods are played simultaneously.
Title: Re: sputniks march
Post by: Still_Learning on February 12, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
Big EZ,
Can you help me answer these questions? Thanks.

if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   X   
6   X
7   X   Why this bet is not X to make it series 3 since the last two events is series 1 and 3
8   ?   
   

if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   O
3   O  x
4   X
5   X x
6   X x
7   ?     


if this is the start to a new game.... 
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O  w
5   X   Why this bet is not X to make it repeat of series 2
6   X  w
7   X   Why this bet is not O to make it repeat of series 2 since last two events is Series 2 and Series 2
8   ?       


if this is the start to a new game.... 
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O  w
6   X 
7   X  w
8   X
9   ?         

 
1   X
2   O
3   O  x
4   O
5   X
6   X  x
7   X  w
8   ?       
 
if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   O
4   O w
5   O
6   X
7   X  w
8   X
9   ?         
   

if this is the start to a new game....
1   X
2   X
3   X
4   O
5   O  w
6   O  Why this bet is not O since last event is series 3
7   X  Why this bet is not X since last event is series 3
8   X   w
9   X
10   ?