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[Rolex-Watch]

So I am a 22 year old Customer Service Rep and I make 350 a week after taxes plus i have this nice side business that i make 400- 800 dollars a week off of. On average I would say I make 1000 dollars a week. For the last 5 months I have went in the casino 4x's a week at the very least. I have a goal of making 100-200 a day . Im in it for the slow grind I have no problem sitting there for 6 hours to make a little over $100. By the way I only live 4 minutes away from the casino. Exactly 1 year after I turned 21 I was down 16k. 5 months later which is today Im up 12k. So in total Im down 4k. ANYWAYS HERE IS HOW I've BEEN BETTING!
1. Walk around the tables, find a streak of 4 and bet $10 against the streak.
2. Win or Lose I won't bet again until I find another streak of 4.
3. NO betting back to back on the same table
4. $20 BET AFTER 1 LOSS
5. $50 BET AFTER 2 LOSS
6. After 3 losses Start from$10 again.

I know it takes forever but can someone tell me why my system is flawed??

Can't fault this strategy.  This is very similar to how I first started plating Baccarat back in 2004.  Stay on your feet, hover around the tables looking at the score boards for any 4 streak and then bet the opposite.

I did things slightly different, firstly my MM was a Fibonacci, plus after any loss I stayed there until a win, otherwise you are just playing a bunch of 50-50 outcomes, I subscribe to Barstows principals 'diminishing probability.' as any repeated pattern of chance events continues, its reversal becomes progressively imminent".

I sometime hedged bets on other tables.  Yes I got hit occasionally, sometimes I let long streak go, recovery modes etc.  All up inside a few months I pulled in $20k using a $25 base bet despite being hit on the odd times.  So yes I would say the strategy works, but you need balls of steel to use the Fibo, how and why this morphed years later  into "the pitboss method" I've no idea.  Would I recommend my approach, not really it is too stressful and risky for seasoned players, if your young and the gung ho type     

[RouletteKEY]

Can't fault this strategy.  This is very similar to how I first started plating Baccarat back in 2004.  Stay on your feet, hover around the tables looking at the score boards for any 4 streak and then bet the opposite.

I did things slightly different, firstly my MM was a Fibonacci, plus after any loss I stayed there until a win, otherwise you are just playing a bunch of 50-50 outcomes, I subscribe to Barstows principals 'diminishing probability.' as any repeated pattern of chance events continues, its reversal becomes progressively imminent".

I sometime hedged bets on other tables.  Yes I got hit occasionally, sometimes I let long streak go, recovery modes etc.  All up inside a few months I pulled in $20k using a $25 base bet despite being hit on the odd times.  So yes I would say the strategy works, but you need balls of steel to use the Fibo, how and why this morphed years later  into "the pitboss method" I've no idea.  Would I recommend my approach, not really it is too stressful and risky for seasoned players, if your young and the gung ho type     

I concur...it works more than it doesn't...but you have to have the guts and bank to play it thru

No guts no glory...you can't start a progression and then just bail on it because you get weak in the knees.   I like the FIBO alot for a bunch of different plays

[Natural 9]

So I am a 22 year old Customer Service Rep and I make 350 a week after taxes plus i have this nice side business that i make 400- 800 dollars a week off of. On average I would say I make 1000 dollars a week. For the last 5 months I have went in the casino 4x's a week at the very least. I have a goal of making 100-200 a day . Im in it for the slow grind I have no problem sitting there for 6 hours to make a little over $100. By the way I only live 4 minutes away from the casino. Exactly 1 year after I turned 21 I was down 16k. 5 months later which is today Im up 12k. So in total Im down 4k. ANYWAYS HERE IS HOW I've BEEN BETTING!
1. Walk around the tables, find a streak of 4 and bet $10 against the streak.
2. Win or Lose I won't bet again until I find another streak of 4.
3. NO betting back to back on the same table
4. $20 BET AFTER 1 LOSS
5. $50 BET AFTER 2 LOSS
6. After 3 losses Start from$10 again.

I know it takes forever but can someone tell me why my system is flawed??

Hi Chiraqi92.

Your method of play is not flawed although it is limiting.

Approximately 75% of the time, the event will be Neutral and the remaining 25% is either Opposite-Repeats.

Betting against 4 in a row is part of the 75% Neutral events. I learned the details of this from one of my baccarat mentors.

You don't need to change it if it's working for you. Just learn to minimize your risk and you can hit that 50K goal of yours.

It may take some time because like what I said, your method of play is limiting but it's doable. Besides, it's your money & time that you're risking.

Good luck with your bac play! 



Natural 9

[Tomla]

I love his play--I have done similar and still do in between bac----(hope you edge for a long time?)

[AsymBacGuy]

' as any repeated pattern of chance events continues, its reversal becomes progressively imminent".[/b]

I like this statement providing to add the word "rare", so now looking like this:

as any repeated pattern of RARE chance events continues, its reversal becomes progressively imminent

as.

[chiraqi92]

I'm up 7200 since my last post. At one point I was up 10,500 but I lost all self control and lost 3300 in one night. Caught 14 bankers in a row and I just couldn't stop trying to break the streak. [smiley]aes/sick.png[/smiley]

[cbtstylez]

Are u still using the same method/system?

[Natural 9]

At one point I was up 10,500 but I lost all self control and lost 3300 in one night. Caught 14 bankers in a row and I just couldn't stop trying to break the streak. [smiley]aes/sick.png[/smiley]

Like I said, your strategy is too limiting to be used in the long run.

Losing 3,300 in one night has nothing to do with self-control.

It's all about knowing the different shifting of events happening in a shoe.

A 4-in-a-row is only one event happening in a shoe. Overall, the shoe averages 12 different events per shoe.

You're missing a lot with your strategy. But if you're content with 1-3 unit profits only then, continue what you're doing.

Play everyday at the same casino using your strategy and you will see the adjustments that the casinos will make to your play.



Natural 9   

[Sputnik]

It's all about knowing the different shifting of events happening in a shoe.

What kind of events are you talking about, i understand you talking about the random flow, can you explain this furhter.

Overall, the shoe averages 12 different events per shoe.

What do you mean by this? What is the 12 different events you talking about?

I know that depending on methodology there will be different events to chart.

Cheers

[Tomla]

Still going strong? I hope it is!

[alrelax]

I'm up near 400 dollars for about 16 hours of

My guys working around my business here are making from $20 to $30 hr reg time and 2'xs that after hours.  They are getting way more than 40 hours a week. 

No investment of money to lose.

16 Hours for $400 with a possible loss factor.  No benefits, no job security.  That ugly gut wrenching and ill feeling when you lose money you really needed.

Don't glamourize it cause it won't work for most trying it.   

Okay, carry on, hope you win a ton!!!!  Seriously.  Just throwing something out there is all.   

[chiraqi92]

Like I said, your strategy is too limiting to be used in the long run.

Losing 3,300 in one night has nothing to do with self-control.

It's all about knowing the different shifting of events happening in a shoe.

A 4-in-a-row is only one event happening in a shoe. Overall, the shoe averages 12 different events per shoe.

You're missing a lot with your strategy. But if you're content with 1-3 unit profits only then, continue what you're doing.

Play everyday at the same casino using your strategy and you will see the adjustments that the casinos will make to your play.



Natural 9

My casino bankroll is at 14700 since October 18th. I decided to bet 200 flat on breaking a streak of greater then 4. Had 2 bad nights where I lost 800 (my max) but I lost count of how many 600 dollar win sessions I had. Hopefully I don't hit a losing streak!!!

[alrelax]

With all due respect and no ill-will intended.  I am sure you guys all tell the truth. 

With that said.  In all my years of play, I have yet to see a player sit down and play one or two or three or four hands and stop.  YES., I have seen a few back bettors standing up where they allow over the shoulder betting where you hand your wager to another player seated, if he is under the table limit, and he can place it for you, etc.  Usually, the few times I been to those 'racsinos' the dual purpose horse race track, the table with several larger bettors were on streaks and winning. Minnesota/one in Iowa.  Otherwise, like I said, I have never seen it at regular casinos. 

Plenty of you talk about how you will only play a select few hands, I believe you.  I just never saw it like all you keep saying.  I seen plenty play every 4th or 5th or even 6th hand.  Or sit 5 or 8 out.  Or play 1/3 or 1/2 the shoe.  Okay, I said my piece.

[RouletteKEY]

Chiraqi92

Assuming you are still betting for just the one hand after the 4th in a string....after a loss do you hang around and see the next outcomes?



I have had better results playing mild progressions with such a trigger playing for 3-4 hands after the trigger.  Stopping on the win....then picking up a little more of the progression on the next attack in case of a loss (nothing crazy like a Martingale and maybe even a little too conservative sometimes by re-starting a step or two back of where I should be in the progression....not trying to get it all back...just putting a band-aid on the bleeding so to speak)

Just curious how many losses would be avoided by playing a little deeper and of course weighing that against the larger bust if it doesn't work out.

I know what the numbers would dictate...just looking for what your experience has been if you had tracked past the loss.

[Tomla]

Chiraqi92
Its great that you have turned this into a flat bet!!!! Continued success!!!