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[trieuphu888]

 I've just found this awsome forum where I can find useful knowledge about my favourite game 

I've played online live baccarat for a few years. Never go to a land base casino. Until now I realize that I can not win consistently. I will lose in the long run. My best run is multiply my account by 20 times in 5 days, apply very well money management, but finally, lose it all by the next day.

Despite of apply many system I could not find a firmly way to win. So I got an idea of let someone who have a big bankroll can bet AGAINST ALL OF MY SELECTION

Because I will lose in the long run FOR SURE. So If my friend who can bet against my will, he could have the profit. In this case, he will role-play as the House. The issue is, he need a bankroll big enough to cover my win until I hit my THRESHOULD

As I mention above, my best run over last 3 years is 20 my bankroll (Let call it X) So this is my calculation:

My friend should have a bankroll = 40X (bigger for safer) multiply by 3 = 120X. Let me explain:

Each time I bet a stake = y he will bet against my choice with stake = 3y. So when I end up losing all my bankroll X, he will profit 3X. Then share equally, we both profit of X.

Just only my thought but never try. Any ideas? hope to hear from you!

P/S Sorry for my bad English

[AsymBacGuy]

Perfect.

Now let's suppose your friend is again you, meaning that you put in action two players: you #1 and the bigger one #2.

But you as you #1 do want to play just a fictional game, as you know you'll be a sure loser.
So you put your bets at a minimum level, taking the illusion to be a short term winner when you'll win but to be a zero loser when you won't.

Whenever you think you'll give back your wins and you know such moment will come along, your big friend #2 will start the betting as the probability to win should be increased.

So there's no point to put in action player #1 from the start as you know he will lose. Even if in the short run he will win something.   

Yes, even player #2 can lose, but by a less supposedly disadvantaged degree.

Good.

Let's suppose even the player #2 will lose and it will happen as variance can reach high values.
What can we do?

Of course we put in play a possible player #3 who lost zero on previous situations and on TWO DIFFERENT PLAYERS' LEVELS.

Naturally, player #1 and player #2 might have won something that this player #3 missed, but who cares as we know that those players will lose anyway in the long run at different degrees?

I mean player #3, even if playing very few bets, has a well higher degree of success especially whether players #1 and #2 were wagering a low betting strategy.

Will this player #3 lose? Of course, he will.
But by a very very low percentage than what the previous players have registered so far.

So a player #4 or #5 or #6 might take the action for us.

We can't win mathematically, but at the same time we know that mathematically (or better statistically) things must come out as expected.

And the more we're waiting our different degree players have lost the better will be our results.

Up to the point where we can make a living at this game.

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[alrelax]

It constantly happens at my local Midwest casino.  Funny, happens here more than the larger gaming jurisdictions say, Vegas, Southern California, Atlantic City, but it does and every night in fact.

There will be someone that lost quite a few hands, white guy or Asians, doesn't matter.  There are numerous Asians, almost everyone that subscribes to wagering against a losing player or in fact---a player that won quite a few in a row, just happens to be Asians and there is one non-Asian and rather than start a brew-haha, I won't mention his race. 

I know 100% what they do and how they figure, I also understand many of their words as my wife is SE Asian, LOL.  They will specifically say, 'time to bet against 'so and so' he is losing or he won too many'. etc., etc. 

You know, it works for a short bit until the tables turn.  Almost every single time--it does.  Play long enough and observe, don't be oblivious to the surroundings, what's going on and the people.  Take it all in, slow your game down and watch.  You will see this probably at most places.

I was winning like maybe 7 or 8 out of 10 the other day.  Two Asian guys are talking, "he can't keep winning, time for him to lose" and it was a 2's and single chop for like 12 or 13 times.  I only started playing it cause the shoe was so strong for about 1/3 rd of it.  I strongly believe in 1/3rd's.  Strong--Weak--and that section you cannot predict called 'unknown'. 

Anyway, I am hitting it and these 2 actually come out and said it in their language they think some whites can't understand.  Of course I smacked it for another 4 wagers and they lost everyone.  They were wagering pretty big for a Midwest casino also.  The look on their faces was precious.  I turned to them and shrugged my shoulders and told them it was time to leave in their own language as I was coloring up.  Their mouths dropped.  The dealer told them as I was leaving, that my wife was SE Asian and that I probably understand their language pretty good. 

But seriously, I see it all the time, I even witness a wife or GF of one of the regular and serious players throwing up a green chip while her husband or BF wagers blacks and purples along with another 2 or 3 people.  I know what they are trying. 

Bottom line, anything works for a few times.  Nothing works on a consistent basis. 

[Garfield]

Tempting...but I think I will pass.

[Babu]

I've just found this awsome forum where I can find useful knowledge about my favourite game 

I've played online live baccarat for a few years. Never go to a land base casino. Until now I realize that I can not win consistently. I will lose in the long run. My best run is multiply my account by 20 times in 5 days, apply very well money management, but finally, lose it all by the next day.

Despite of apply many system I could not find a firmly way to win. So I got an idea of let someone who have a big bankroll can bet AGAINST ALL OF MY SELECTION

Because I will lose in the long run FOR SURE. So If my friend who can bet against my will, he could have the profit. In this case, he will role-play as the House. The issue is, he need a bankroll big enough to cover my win until I hit my THRESHOULD

As I mention above, my best run over last 3 years is 20 my bankroll (Let call it X) So this is my calculation:

My friend should have a bankroll = 40X (bigger for safer) multiply by 3 = 120X. Let me explain:

Each time I bet a stake = y he will bet against my choice with stake = 3y. So when I end up losing all my bankroll X, he will profit 3X. Then share equally, we both profit of X.

Just only my thought but never try. Any ideas? hope to hear from you!

P/S Sorry for my bad English

This is one of just a few good post that I've seen so far.  This will only work if the loser never bets 1/3 of the table limit and the winner has to play every hand that the loser plays.  This means every hand from day one to the last day.   If the winner only bets against the loser during the loser's bad streak, it will not work.

[AsymBacGuy]

Good read, Al!

Anyway following lucky or unlucky players is just another "derived road" no worse than what the display is showing.
Sometimes could even be a better indicator of what could happen as heavy losers want to break even very rapidly, often forgetting that they won more hands than lost but just in the "unfortunate" reverse distribution.
Moreover, everyone here knows that the odds to broke even in short time after a huge loss are particularly unfavourable.
However they aren't if our goal after such huge (fictional) loss is to win just a couple of units.

as.   

   

[alrelax]

Good read, Al!

Anyway following lucky or unlucky players is just another "derived road" no worse than what the display is showing.
Sometimes could even be a better indicator of what could happen as heavy losers want to break even very rapidly, often forgetting that they won more hands than lost but just in the "unfortunate" reverse distribution.
Moreover, everyone here knows that the odds to broke even in short time after a huge loss are particularly unfavourable.
However they aren't if our goal after such huge (fictional) loss is to win just a couple of units.

as.   

Yes, true.  And I would be lying if I said that I never did follow or go against another player as well!  I have, usually for a time or two or three.  To go with a player, I normally do it out of camaraderie when we are all winning or at least a few of us.  I don't count on either going with or against as a proper strategy in so many words.  I do it out of boredom or fun, not spite or desperation.  It is a poor 'road' as it is really not based on anything.  IMO.

What cracks me up at the table is many actually believe that it is a predictor and the cards will follow their thoughts in relation to this.

[AsymBacGuy]

Yes, true.  And I would be lying if I said that I never did follow or go against another player as well!  I have, usually for a time or two or three.  To go with a player, I normally do it out of camaraderie when we are all winning or at least a few of us.  I don't count on either going with or against as a proper strategy in so many words.  I do it out of boredom or fun, not spite or desperation.  It is a poor 'road' as it is really not based on anything.  IMO.

What cracks me up at the table is many actually belief that it is a predictor and the cards will follow their thoughts in relation to this.

I agree and sometimes I do the same.

as.

[21 Aces]

This is entire issue is 100% bull because there are so many here that believe that nobody wins, but will not play Bank.  OK!!!!