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[audionut]

For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...

SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?

Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist 

[WorldBaccaratKing]

For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...

SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?

Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist 

you're looking for what everyone who plays the game is looking for. it doesn't exist because every shoe is different. one shoe could have more chops, one more streaks, the next equal......

[Train33]

If everything loses to the terrible two's...look for something that wins against it lol

[Natural 9]

For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...

SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?

Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist 

Hi Audionut.

I also used FLD/OLD or the TBL/OTBL before.

For example, these strategies (OLD/OTBL) will not hold if these events will suddenly shift to either Opposites or Repeats or vice-versa. I believe you understand what I am talking about.

Most bac players rely on their MM to control their losses. This is to neutralize the limitation of their strategy. There's nothing wrong with MM. It's part of your strategy towards the game but in the process, you are not really maximizing full income potential during your bac plays. All shoes have exploitable runs. The question is, can you see it ?

So going back to your question..."what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?"

It is a bet selection that understands the different shoe combinations (shifting) happening in a particular shoe. From your post, I understand you only knew 4 in general --- Opposites, Repeats, TBL, & OTBL. This is very limiting. For you to know what would happen the least statistically, you should know at least 10 shifting of baccarat events. So far, I know between 12-15 shifting of events.

From my current bac plays, yes, there is a system that could identify these least occurring events and you can exploit it with ease. I've been doing this for almost 2 months now and I'm getting very good results. I am basing this from my own live baccarat experience for the last 2 months.



Natural 9

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Hi Audionut.

I also used FLD/OLD or the TBL/OTBL before.

For example, these strategies (OLD/OTBL) will not hold if these events will suddenly shift to either Opposites or Repeats or vice-versa. I believe you understand what I am talking about.

Most bac players rely on their MM to control their losses. This is to neutralize the limitation of their strategy. There's nothing wrong with MM. It's part of your strategy towards the game but in the process, you are not really maximizing full income potential during your bac plays. All shoes have exploitable runs. The question is, can you see it ?

So going back to your question..."what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?"

It is a bet selection that understands the different shoe combinations (shifting) happening in a particular shoe. From your post, I understand you only knew 4 in general --- Opposites, Repeats, TBL, & OTBL. This is very limiting. For you to know what would happen the least statistically, you should know at least 10 shifting of baccarat events. So far, I know between 12-15 shifting of events.

From my current bac plays, yes, there is a system that could identify these least occurring events and you can exploit it with ease. I've been doing this for almost 2 months now and I'm getting very good results. I am basing this from my own live baccarat experience for the last 2 months.



Natural 9

Let me guess, its the iplayforaliving holy grail that costs 500 but no one can share it without the world police arresting them and sending them to jail for 100 years? That one?

[Sputnik]

 Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.

For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.

I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.


Cheers

[alrelax]

Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.

For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.

I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.


Cheers

Many a casino management and their peripheral employees count on just that.  There is no winning system and most all regular gamblers lose more than they win.  Otherwise they could not build multi hundred million dollar and billion dollar properties and pay huge payrolls each and every single week.  Period. END OF STORY.

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.

For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.

I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.


Cheers

exactly, a lot of talk about making X amount of units per shoe but no proof. ALL BS in my book.................Put up or shut up. I post systems and people say they make more, yet offer no proof, comical really.....

[ADulay]

exactly, a lot of talk about making X amount of units per shoe but no proof. ALL BS in my book.................Put up or shut up. I post systems and people say they make more, yet offer no proof, comical really.....

I just know I'm going to regret getting into this morass, but here goes.

I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit.  There is a reason for that.   They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.

And now on to my own personal pet peeve........

Lots of complaining about people not posting up their plays at the table for "others to learn and win".

Here's a clue.  Why don't any of the people who are apparently losing, post up any of their scorecards?  Perhaps having a core group of readers (that would be most of the ones here) take a look at a person's play and comment on it, would help a LOT of the readers!!

What a concept.

If a person is consisently losing, their score cards should tell them WHY and if they can't figure it out on their own, then we have plenty of clever people here who WILL point out problems.

Here's a short starter.   This is a recent shoe (transcribed) that I had this month.  Play it and see how you do.

If there's enough interest, we'll start a separate thread just for "working shoes".

Don't cheat yourself and fudge it.  Play it "for real" and see how you do.  Cover up the lines if that helps.

AD

[alrelax]

Weak shoe.  I chart it the other way from the top going down.  Regardless.  There are only 57 or so hands so I will assume the beginning is just that and I rarely play the whole shoe anyways.  Stop with a shoe like that around hand 40 to 45.  So charting it the way I would, I would have played to hand 42 where it wound up with the 3 players repeating. 

I know I would have wagered second line bets and if I did all of them I would have won 13 and lost 8 until hand 42.  I know I would have wagered to cut at repeat #4 based on the shoe 'semi' consistent until the first mini run of 4.  If the 4 came about out of the blue, I would never wager to cut.  I personally have a tendency to win several smaller wagers and throw it all in and I probably would have done that around the 4th consecutive second line successful repeat.  I don't flat bet, never.

Without being there I can't really say as I already implied.  However if I played only double repeats I would have won 26 and lost 16 if I played them all. 

If I played other things besides what I mentioned above I would have either broke even or lost on the 42 hands.  If I stuck to my gut ad had the same gut as I do looking at it---while at the live table I would have done well.

I can't say honestly how I would have done on that shoe, it's not a great shoe in my likings.  I am 100% sure I would have stopped at 1/2 way through. 

[WorldBaccaratKing]

I just know I'm going to regret getting into this morass, but here goes.

I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit.  There is a reason for that.   They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.

And now on to my own personal pet peeve........

Lots of complaining about people not posting up their plays at the table for "others to learn and win".

Here's a clue.  Why don't any of the people who are apparently losing, post up any of their scorecards?  Perhaps having a core group of readers (that would be most of the ones here) take a look at a person's play and comment on it, would help a LOT of the readers!!

What a concept.

If a person is consisently losing, their score cards should tell them WHY and if they can't figure it out on their own, then we have plenty of clever people here who WILL point out problems.

Here's a short starter.   This is a recent shoe (transcribed) that I had this month.  Play it and see how you do.

If there's enough interest, we'll start a separate thread just for "working shoes".

Don't cheat yourself and fudge it.  Play it "for real" and see how you do.  Cover up the lines if that helps.

AD

Using the method I posted the other day it lost 9 units (ride the waves). Pit bosses broke even. VERY tough shoe for "systems". Love to see a system win money on that shoe. Has everything going on in it......

[WorldBaccaratKing]

If not playing a system, I would have cleaned up on that shoe. So many doubles, then singles, definitely would have made money by going with the shoe. See, a system you have to play it the same way every shoe, otherwise, if you use judgement, it isn't a system. Systems do NOT involve DISCRETION.

So, I would love to see a system beat this shoe, hell, even my old system lost -3 units on this shoe which I don't think is bad!!!

[alrelax]

. See, a system you have to play it the same way every shoe, otherwise, if you use judgement, it isn't a system. Systems do NOT involve DISCRETION.

Exactly, 1.000%! 

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Exactly, 1.000%!

Figured everyone would know that!

[Natural 9]

I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit.  There is a reason for that.   They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.

Bull's eye! 



Natural 9