Greetings !
This is to all who want to post their average number of unit bet wins per shoe ?
Is an average of one unit profit per shoe for one hundred shoes considered a good average ?
Please leave your comments and share your betting style if you wish.
Thank you ,
Quote from: ezmark on May 29, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Is an average of one unit profit per shoe for one hundred shoes considered a good average ?
Ezmark,
No, especially if your unit size is $10.
Yes, especially if your unit size is $10,000.
But if your unit size is $10,000 you most probably won't be very happy with a +1 in each shoe.
AD
Someone actually tried to win 1 unit per day in an old baccarat forum which had closed down already. This player posted and did win for a period of 14months
I love playing hit n run, I played for two yrs making +3/day.
Now switched to another method giving more rewards, +6/9 per shoe, since the last 30 days.
andre
bet 0.5% of bankroll. I have average between 5 - 10 %. ( max 15 - 25% )
I live for the day I could wager $10,000 per hand in Baccarat, and think nothing of it. This is power!
Joey
Quote from: ezmark on May 29, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Greetings !
This is to all who want to post their average number of unit bet wins per shoe ?
Is an average of one unit profit per shoe for one hundred shoes considered a good average ?
Please leave your comments and share your betting style if you wish.
Thank you ,
Hi Ezmark.
No, if your base bet is only $10 like what Adulay commented. I don't think $10 could cover your expenses going to your nearest casino unless you live just a walking distance from the area. I'm talking about land-based play. Online? Well, it still very limiting.
Yes, if your base bet is $1,000 or more. This will cover all your basic operating expenses from that session.
On average, every baccarat shoe could give you +3 to +4 units profit. Earning more than these is our biggest challenge.
I average +6 units with base bets of either $50 or $100 per shoe using Alvin's Precision Baccarat Method.
Natural 9
Thank you to all who have given your ideas.
I know of someone who has made an average of 3 to 4 units per shoe, before commission, over 30 to 40 shoes, playing almost every hand.
I thought this was exceptional !
hey ezemark ,have you been in jail ? 4 months since the last responce to your thread and what a beauty,
"i know someone who made blah blah blah" big deal how is that of any interest to anyone ?.
you have my vote of worthless post of the year.pretty unexceptional
Quote from: spartakookie on June 20, 2014, 06:32:10 AM
Someone actually tried to win 1 unit per day in an old baccarat forum which had closed down already. This player posted and did win for a period of 14months
What was the name of the forum and what was the name of the topic.
Cheers
Thank you for your concern.
I have spent a lot of time in casinos for the past two months using up my comped rooms and meals.
I'm using a comped room tonight and I may play a couple shoes.
I will let you know how it goes.
Quote from: vo rogue on February 05, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
hey ezemark ,have you been in jail ? 4 months since the last responce to your thread and what a beauty,
"i know someone who made blah blah blah" big deal how is that of any interest to anyone ?.
you have my vote of worthless post of the year.pretty unexceptional
Kind of hard on the "n00b", eh?
It may not have been "of interest" to you but it does flow well with the topic of conversation and has the potential to move along, hopefully.
Some see the glass as half full. Some see it as half empty. Some are just blind.
AD
Greetings,
This is the only shoe I played on my last trip. I won 17 units by guessing.
Give it a try to see how well you will do.
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Quote from: ezmark on February 09, 2015, 11:48:23 PM
Greetings,
This is the only shoe I played on my last trip. I won 17 units by guessing.
Give it a try to see how well you will do.
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Hi ezmark!
This actual shoe presents one opportunity to wager my "high bet" dictated by my method. So, I'd have won just one bet. ;-)
as.
I can see nothing has changed here. Same ole' guys spinning their wheels. Some say they win X amount of units per shoe/day, etc. Another boasting he wins cars and boats weekly. Its sad and pathetic really.
If anyone had a clue about anything they would post a method and we could all contribute and see if we could get somewhere.
Instead, we have guys making big black boxes and keeping the "secret sauce" to themselves. HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep on, keep on........
Quote from: ezmark on February 09, 2015, 11:48:23 PM
Greetings,
This is the only shoe I played on my last trip. I won 17 units by guessing.
Give it a try to see how well you will do.
PP BBBBB P B PP B P B P BB P BBB PPP BB P B PP B PP BB PP B PPPPP BBB P BB PP B P B P B PP B P B PPP B PPPPP B
OK, let's try this another way.
Is there anyone here that LOST on this shoe? If so, how did you play it?
AD
Quote from: ADulay on February 11, 2015, 01:59:51 AM
OK, let's try this another way.
Is there anyone here that LOST on this shoe? If so, how did you play it?
AD
I will say I think it was tough. The middle of the shoe would have did good but before that very sporadic.....
I test one of my favorite methods and this is how it looks like:
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Quote from: Sputnik on February 11, 2015, 12:43:40 PM
I test one of my favorite methods and this is how it looks like:
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Is this your eirescott version of the birthday paradox?
@Sputnik
A very good +10 flat betting or +38 with a 4 step marty
Quote from: ezmark on February 13, 2015, 01:03:02 AM
@Sputnik
A very good +10 flat betting or +38 with a 4 step marty
So I guess you never bust your 4 step marty and it's never happened twice?
Regarding an average unit win shoe, I've been asked this, I think it is a stupid question, because every shoe is different, you can lose badly on certain shoes, then there are average shoes, exceptional shoes, they are all different. Do you sit there at the end of every shoe counting your chips, then deducting how much you made from the first shoe, the second shoe and so on, maybe you have a running count, or maybe you just work out how much more you need to hit your goal target so you can quit.
Greetings,
I keep my game score cards over the years. I do this to track my play and try different methods on real games.
Its not if you bust, everyone busts, The question is can you recover for a profit over 50 shoes.
If my average unit-win profit is less than , lets say 4 units per shoe over 50 shoes, I will try something to improve my average.
This will make a long term winner.
All I can say is, when I'm at a table I notice many are following my bet placement.
Quote from: ezmark on February 13, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
All I can say is, when I'm at a table I notice many are following my bet placement.
Yep, I suffer from the same problem.
I tell them, "don't follow me, I'm not Jesus, I've no idea which side is going to win". However in the back of my mind, I know I should win a bet within a series of hands and whether I win or lose this hand is not really that important, rather it is the betting amount that matters.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on February 13, 2015, 03:55:16 AM
However in the back of my mind, I know I should win a bet within a series of hands and whether I win or lose this hand is not really that important, rather it is the betting amount that matters.
yes...it's not the individual bet...but the attack as a whole that needs to be successful
for me that whole attack is not limited to a series of say two, three or four bets...even if that's all I play at that time. If I hit a stop-loss and haven't achieved the victory the overall attack is geared to accept that and continue on the next attack...and so on and so forth
Quote from: RouletteKEY on February 13, 2015, 01:02:58 PM
for me that whole attack is not limited to a series of say two, three or four bets...even if that's all I play at that time. If I hit a stop-loss and haven't achieved the victory the overall attack is geared to accept that and continue on the next attack...and so on and so forth
Take heed, my friends, for that quote right there is absolutely GOLDEN. Good job, RouletteKey.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on February 13, 2015, 03:06:42 AM
So I guess you never bust your 4 step marty and it's never happened twice?
Regarding an average unit win shoe, I've been asked this, I think it is a stupid question, because every shoe is different, you can lose badly on certain shoes, then there are average shoes, exceptional shoes, they are all different. Do you sit there at the end of every shoe counting your chips, then deducting how much you made from the first shoe, the second shoe and so on, maybe you have a running count, or maybe you just work out how much more you need to hit your goal target so you can quit.
Wow.
Quote from: RouletteKEY on February 13, 2015, 01:02:58 PM
yes...it's not the individual bet...but the attack as a whole that needs to be successful
Yep.
as.
It's a simple matter to calculate average per shoe profit. So, if a cat is unable or unwilling to provide that figure you can be fairly certan that he ain't a regular winning player, hey hey.
At a $10 table I average between $100-150 profit.
+10-15 units using random selecting patterns and covering.
For the past 4 months I keep track of my wins/losses at the casino, overall in general...
I play baccarat 95% of the time, double deck BJ, 3% of the time, keno 1% while I have dinner, and slots 1% just to try and hit that elusive jackpot.
I write down in a notepad my trips, wins and losses, very simple....To each their own...........
What a person wins with one shoe on regular basis tells me nothing.
John at least sharing a method where you can capitilaze you money and win big.
I don't belive you can become a winner if you don't push your limits and bankroll to higher targets.
I just saying i respect John and some other members that tell stories about how they make 5 or 15K.
Then is hope for us others also to succed.
Maybe off topic but i want to spell it out.
Thank you to all who have taken time to read or post your thoughts.