Buying a couple of systems and finding them online have always lead to unsuccessful runs. I finally stumbled onto a gentleman who might have the winning recipe. On his website, he says he will teach you and than would be willing to play alongside with real money. How many have ever heard of this or even anything similar? I think that it is a very honorable and credible action. Yes, his lesson isn't cheap but when is a good thing cheap? Without giving out any details, has anyone ever come upon this site or learn the actual steps to his method?
If the man has a winning system, why on earth would he need your money?
If he is willing to sit with you at the casino and play he would be able to make
money right along with you. He should be able to help you, not take your money
Quote from: brokerny on December 14, 2016, 10:48:27 PMI finally stumbled onto a gentleman who might have the winning recipe. On his website, he says he will teach you and than would be willing to play alongside with real money.
Whose system is it?
If it is Dr. Tom's, you can read it here: http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/dr-tom's-baccarat-system/
well, unfortunately everyone took my post as a negative thing and responded in such a way. im not here to promote the site or to even talk it up. i have only told my side of the story and my experience. i was just wondering if anyone have encountered such a thing. if anyone is interested in actual details, you will need to message me. i will not disclose any information as it might get me banned here.
Playing along is no guarantee of a winning system, even if you get to win with him. Unless a methodology is sound enough to handle the worst of times with least damage and recover losses in only average sessions thereafter, it is only fool's gold. A fraudster can easily motivate someone to play a 10 step martingale which is unlikely to lose in the first shoe one can play along. Show your so called expert these sessions:
http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/harsh-sessions-won-by-positive-gambling-module/
if he can beat them all with his strategy, he is worth learning. Anybody can make systems for average sessions or a particular type of variance.
Nobody in this world can choose better betselections that will always beat the house itself.
hey alba, you make alot of sense and are probably right. i have used this technique(not a system) way back in 2010 and made a nice run. i turned approx. $2k into $15k in about 3 months. it wasn't conservative play but not too aggressive. went to the casino once to 3x a week. got too confident and cocky that i tried tweaking it my way to win more and quicker. lost just about all of it in a matter of 4 months. i went back to this technique over a year later and i did practically the exact thing!!!!!! didn't learn from my mistakes. the technique has been updated a couple of times and now i believe its at a much higher winning rate, but as alba says, the bankroll risk is much higher. so far from all the actual shoes I've played and practice shoes I've watched it hasnt failed. if that one failure does EVER come, it will set me back alot unless i go on winning for a nice stretch. like i said, it hasnt failed me yet and hope it doesn't. we shall see. only time will tell.
Try those sessions with his approach. You may get a revelation for free. You may name the site without putting any link so that people can comment more on that. We have many matured and experienced players over here.
if you would like, look up baccarat personal trainer. im really surprised none of you guys has stumbled on to this site in the past. anyway, im very happy with my experience so far.
any luck finding it?
You can name the site without putting any link. I will try to evaluate if it is any worthy.
alrelax, it is not Dr.Tom. i read a post with his retarded confusing system. i wouldn't be that stupid to post that im using that system and having a great experience with it. please don't assume and have some common sense regarding that. i have mentioned the site without the link. baccarat personal trainer.
There is no site with that name. Is it Alvin Tuarez? you can name the site clearly.
just add www to it
brokerny, are you alvin ? or a stooge for him ?. if you are very happy so far, why do you need us to validate your happiness ?.
what has made you very happy so far ?. yet you ask has anybody learned the steps to his method , LOL as alrelax said this is embarrassing.
Curious why there is a prevailing view that nothing in gambling of value could be shared when in everything else in life it happens all of the time? Maybe losers want to reinvent the wheel somehow. Buy me some drinks and tell me how the almighty grandmaster in baccarat will end the game for everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27Hk5OIe-k
vo, you sound like a hater because why all the assumptions and attacking kind of questions? im not trying to validate anything. if you read my history with this technique, I've been through ups and downs in the past few years. I've been reading up on this forum and have learned alot but i was surprised that no one has mentioned the technique i use. its not a hidden secret, so i just shouted out to see the responses. the key selling point is that he will meet up with you and he will play with his own money while you watch or play along. i never took advantage of that until this past october when i finally had an opportunity and i wasn't disappointed. very nice guy and at the same time, he cashed in for a nice size bankroll. he ended up winning 8 units in the only shoe we actually sat for. vegas isn't the greatest place to play baccarat by the way. if you're a $15 to $25 bettor, you will find atlantic city, CT, or even Pennsylvania casinos much better for that. meeting up with him just gave me more confidence on his technique and i will plan to hit the casinos more often to test it out.
Shrewd cats should avoid any style of play that emphasize the bets selections over the progression/mm, hey hey!
Quote from: alrelax on December 15, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
As far as a system, it is only as good as the player and how he chooses to implement it or walk away when he wins or loses.
^ This.
Very curious on poker for instance. You can follow the top players very closely, but that doesn't mean you will be able to get to that level or even close. Why? BUT LOOK:
Card Player:
James Romero Wins World Poker Tour Five Diamond World Poker Classic Main Event
Romero Pockets $1,938,118 For The Victoryby Julio Rodriguez | Published: Dec 11, 2016 | E-mail Author
'Romero, a poker pro whose previous best tournament cash was for just $3,803, earned a massive $1,938,118 for topping the huge field of 792 players.'
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/21104-james-romero-wins-world-poker-tour-five-diamond-world-poker-classic-main-event
i find all this funny because everyone is so aware of "systems" and continue to call everything a system. this particular technique is no such thing because it doesn't tell you to bet a certain way when certain situations happen. this technique is a method of play. its different everytime you play. im not saying it wins all the time. the original technique had a high win percentage but it loses. the new improved technique hasnt lost yet with my real and demo playing. the inventor of this method has not lost in 2 years of playing. oh, to answer people's question why should someone sell a system or method if it can make someone millions. here's the most obvious answer that not many would even think of. if you were to say consistently win big everytime and guys with big bankrolls will win big, you think the casino or casinos will allow it to happen forever? you will be banned or limited in some way. no one wants to be red flagged. if you want to do this for a living, you need to spread your winnings in as many casinos as possible. common sense.
For 21 Aces:
Post #8:
Ted Forrest Wanted by Authorities Over Alleged Bad Checks at Wynn Las Vegas
First Published: September 05, 2016
Ted Forrest is a wanted man in Las Vegas.
The six-time World Series of Poker (WSOP) bracelet winner has been accused of writing bad checks at Wynn Las Vegas in 2012 and 2013.
Ted Forrest arrest warrant bad checks at Wynn
Wynn Las Vegas says poker pro Ted Forrest owes the casino hundreds of thousands of dollars, and local authorities have a warrant out for the arrest of the six-time World Series of Poker bracelet winner.
According to authorities, Forrest cashed two checks totaling $215,000. Wynn says the checks bounced due to insufficient funds to cover the transactions.
Clark County has now issued an arrest warrant for Forrest.
Three years ago, Forrest admitted to owing Wynn over a quarter of a million dollars and agreed to pay back the money in 10 monthly payments. But Las Vegas Review Journal's (LVRJ) David Ferrara reports Forrest failed to make good on the settlement.
Wynn wants its money, and it's turning to legal recourse. "We believe this is a long-standing civil dispute," Forrest's attorney Chris Rasmussen told the LVRJ. "Now . . . they've moved to prosecute."
Clark County is charging Forrest with theft and writing bad checks. Those accusations could lead to prison time should Forrest be found guilty. Rasmussen plans to ask a Clark County judge to revoke the warrant.
High Stakes Drama
Forrest is notorious on the poker circuit for always being ready for a big wager. He's won over $6.3 million in live earnings during his 25 years playing poker, but his notoriety largely stems from his actions in non-sanctioned showdowns, also known as prop bets.
His most notable face-off came against Texas billionaire Andy Beal. Forrest and other poker pros pooled their money together to take on Beal in what were perhaps the richest poker games in history.
Dating back to 2001, Forrest and Beal have gone against each other several times with millions of dollars in the pot. Held at both the Bellagio and Wynn Las Vegas, Beal supposedly once won an $11.7 million hand.
Forrest's best live recorded victory came in 2007 when he won the $10,000 World Poker Tour no limit hold'em event for a $1.1 million win, but he's certainly won more during his non-tournament high-stakes affairs.
Weighty Matter
Forrest's situation with Wynn is a bit ironic, considering he's been a vocal critic of Mike Matusow on a 2010 prop bet. Six years ago, Forrest bet Matusow he could drop his weight from 188 to under 140 pounds in just a matter of months.
The bet was for $2 million.
Forrest followed through, but claims Matusow has only paid him $70,500 to date.
"I didn't eat for 10 days," Forrest said in 2010. "I ate a kiwi, a tomato, and five or six raspberries, which gave me the energy to make the final push and lose the weight."
Matusow blamed alcohol for the bet, and claimed that he wasn't in a sound mental state to make such outlandish terms.
"Four years ago me and Ted made a bet and were very drunk when we made it," Matusow tweeted in 2014. "I then told him I don't want the bet cause I can't afford to lose."
How can you say I'm here to endorse it when my original post was asking if anyone heard of someone selling a winning baccarat strategy and willing to play alongside? I just wanted to know the answer to that. I never even mentioned the sites name or how the technique works. Everyone started having questions and negative remarks which lead to all this. Oh why wouldn't a casino ban you if you win a million dollars within a year and don't have any losing sessions at all? That's just a question, not reality. Maybe it's a reality for someone but no one I know. Why are card counters in blackjack banned? It's not really cheating.
Quote from: alrelax on December 15, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
No one gets banned from playing baccarat, unless they commit a crime (cheat), obnoxious to the point of causing serious disturbances or are so rude numerous players are insulted and continually complain. You do not get banned from winning, even on repetitive visits.
^ This. Here's a good exercise. Add up the value of the real estate, casino, and most likely rent, payroll, etc. and look at how big of a player you have to be. You will get busted for bad things outside of play and cheating, etc.
Brokernys, fairygodmother has not for 2 years.
Nuff said.
To quote the op, "the inventor has not lost for 2 years" lol. reply no.21
The ads are all over the internet, been on the internet and always will be.
Anyone with any brains can write something and when it loses, it has to, will be chalked off to variance, etc. But anyway, here is one floating around for a personal trainer besides Dr. T, etc.:
" DEAR MEMBER,
HARRAHS AND MANY OTHER MAJOR CASINO'S HAVE COMPED ME SO MUCH THIS YEAR IT IS AMAZING , (2) CRUISES, LAKE TAHOE TRIPS(I WILL BE IN VIP SEATING AT THE EAGLES CONCERT ON AUG 20TH, LAKE TAHOE), WITH AIR FARE INCLUDED, AND A BUNCH OF TRIPS TO NEW ORLEANS, GULF COAST, MISS, LAS VEGAS AND OTHER HOT SPOTS ALL FREE. I NOW HAVE OFFERS TO GO TO VIRGIN ISLAND, BAHAMAS, ETC FREE.
YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW I BEGAN A FEW MONTHS AGO
GIVING PERSONAL BACCARAT TRAINING. I RECEIVED SO MANY REQUESTS WORLDWIDE FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO RECEIVE ONE
ON ONE TRAINING AND TO LEARN ALL THE IN'S AND OUT'S OF MY SUCCESS. THIS LEAD ME TO BEGIN A "PERSONAL BACCARAT TRAINER" SERVICE FOR THOSE THAT REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT BIG PLAYING. THEREFORE TO MAKE IT WORTH MY TIME AND MANY YEARS OF
RESEARCH I CHARGE 250.00 PER HOUR WITH A 8 HOUR MIN CHARGE (2000.00) PLUS THE METHOD "BACCARAT PERSONAL TRAINER" (500.00).
SO FOR 2500.00 YOU GET ME FOR A FULL DAY PLUS THE
METHOD IN ITS COMPLETE FORM THAT I USE WITH ALL DETAIL
THEN ALSO INCLUDED, WE GO TO THE TABLE AND PLAY TOGETHER.
IT IS TRULY BACCARAT COLLEGE. VERY SIMPLE AND EASY TO
LEARN ESPECIALLY WITH ME THERE TO EXPLAIN HOW TO DO IT.
YOU WILL HAVE LESS THAN A 10th OF THE SCORE SHEET WRITING
AS COMPARED TO MY BACCARAT WEALTH BOOK AND TRIPLE THE
UNITS PER SHOE , (10 UNITS PER SHOE).
I SHOW THE PERSON(S) HOW TO MAKE THE 2500.00 FEE BACK IN 2 SHOES
OR LESS. I HAVE BEEN STAYING VERY BUSY WITH MEMBERS AND NEW
CONTACTS THAT WANT TO TAKE THERE PLAY TO A NEW LEVEL AND BECOME RICH PLAYING BACCARAT , TRAVELING FULL TIME LIKE MY SELF.
TRUE STORY: AFTER A ONE DAY TRAINING ONE MEMBER MADE 150,000.00 IN A WEEKEND. 150,000.00 DOLLARS AMAZING AND TRUE. GRANTED HE USED A LARGER BANKROLL THAN MOST BUT NON THE LESS HE MADE 150,000.00 THOUSAND DOLLARS AFTER MY PERSONAL
INSTRUCTION. BY THE WAY HE IS A FAMOUS PERSON IF I DROPPED
HIS NAME YOU WOULD KNOW HIM AND IF WE MEET I WILL TELL YOU
WHO HE IS. THE GREAT THING IS I CAN TEACH ANYONE ON ANY
LEVEL TO GET RICH OR GET RICHER AFTER MY 1 DAY "BACCARAT PERSONAL TRAINER" SESSION.
YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE AND START A FULL TIME BUSINESS AND
BEGIN MAKING A LARGE SALARY THE FIRST WEEK FOR ONLY 2500.00 DOLLARS. MY ONE DAY SESSION IS AMAZING I AM LIVING IT. OTHERS ARE NOW LIVING IT.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE OFFERING THEIR SERVICES ON A ONE TO ONE
PERSONAL BASIS AND THEN PLAYING AT A LIVE TABLE WITH THE PERSON TO COMPLETELY EQUIP THE PERSON WITH ALL THE TOOLS NEEDED TO SIMPLY MAKE 2000.00, 5000.00 DOLLARS AND UP PER DAY JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SHOES YOU WANT TO PLAY PER DAY.
I ONLY PLAY 5 SHOES PER DAY AND I PLAY 4 DAYS PER WEEK
AND TAKE THE REST OF THE WEEK OFF.
AS I STATED PART OF THE DAY AFTER I FEEL YOU HAVE IT INGRAINED
IN YOUR BRAIN THEN WE GO TO THE TABLE AND YOU WILL BE MAKING
MONEY RIGHT BESIDE ME. BY THE END OF THE DAY YOU WILL HAVE
ALL THE KEYS AND TOOLS TO MAKE A QUARTER MILLION , A HALF
MILLION OR MORE ANNUALLY . YOU WILL LEARN TO PLAY LIKE ME
AND WIN THE MONEY LIKE ME. IT SHOWS HOW STRONG AND CONFIDENT
I AM IN MY PLAY TO ACTUALLY MEET YOU IN PERSON, TRAIN YOU
FOR THE DAY , THEN PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS AND
WE GO TO THE TABLE AND TAKE THE CASINOS MONEY I KNOW
NO ONE THAT WILL OR CAN DO THIS.
MY BOOK THAT I SELL TO THE PUBLIC FOR 99.00 "BACCARAT WEALTH" IS ENTRY LEVEL TO MY PLAY. IT IS A GREAT BOOK AND WILL TURN A LOSER INTO A WINNER. HOWEVER MY "PERSONAL TRAINER" BACCARAT METHOD IS FOR THE PERSON THAT IS READY TO PLAY FULLTIME, TRAVEL AND PLAY BACCARAT WITH THE INTENT OF GETTING RICH PLAYING BACCARAT.
I AM ASKED IF A PARTNER (2 OR MORE PEOPLE) CAN SET IN ON THE ONE DAY TRAINING. THE ANSWER IS YES HOWEVER THE FEES ARE
PER PERSON THAT I TRAIN.
I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO MAKE THE FEE BACK THE SAME DAY. SO THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO RISK AND TRUE RICHES TO GAIN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. AS A BONUS I WILL ALSO GIVE INSTRUCTION AS TO MAX YOUR COMPS. A POWERFUL TIP HOW YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR HOTELS AND MEALS PAID BY PLAYING 1 JUST 3 SHOES . THE CASINO'S LOOK AT (3) THINGS TO RATE YOU , ONCE YOU KNOW THE (3) THINGS YOU CAN BEAT THEM AT THEIR OWN COMP SYSTEM. WHY NOT, I DON'T CHANGE THE WAY I PLAY FOR THE COMPS BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE US FREE HOTELS, MEALS , AIR FARE, SHOW TICKETS, GIFT SHOP COMPS AND MUCH MORE WHY NOT TAKE IT. I PLAY ABOUT 40 WEEKS PER YEAR AND ALL THE COMPS ADD THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MY WINNINGS. THE COMP TIPS
ALONE WILL PAY FOR THE 1 DAY TRAINING BUT THE IMPORTANT
THING IS YOU WILL LEARN IN THE 1 DAY TRAINING HOW TO
GET RICH PLAYING BACCARAT. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE
THE TOOLS I TEACH FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE OR AS LONG
AS THEY HAVE BACCARAT IN THE CASINOS
LET ME KNOW IF THIS INTEREST'S YOU. I AM BOOKED THROUGH
THE REST OF AUG AND MOST OF SEPTEMBER.
_________________________________________________________________________________
Key Selling Points, LOL:
Virtually no risk
I am booked for so and so but available for you
Unlimited comps, I will teach you how to beat their system
And, they always say you will earn back your tuition/fee in one, two or three shoes, etc.
Darn, I have to wipe the laughter tears from my eyes, sorry I can't type any more!!!!!
His stated win rate is in the 55% +/- range.
That's hilarious! You're actually helping him advertise on this site lol
Quote from: 21 Aces on December 16, 2016, 01:00:11 PM
His stated win rate is in the 55% +/- range.
Notice I said 'stated'... 10 wins net on an 80 hand shoe with around 12 Ties.
As far as win rates, I could care less. Everything I have stated was from past experience and a few from what he told me in person. As long as I keep winning, that's great for me. There are always non believers to everything. I'll be hitting the casinos all of next week so I will keep you posted.
Quote from: brokerny on December 16, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
As far as win rates, I could care less. Everything I have stated was from past experience and a few from what he told me in person. As long as I keep winning, that's great for me. There are always non believers to everything. I'll be hitting the casinos all of next week so I will keep you posted.
That's what
Vlad the Impaler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler) said. "I'll keep you posted."
Lol what movie is he from?
he's from the movie, BACCARAT DRACULA , the plot is, a guy working the gas station in east texas decides to scam people on the internet, goes by the name of, personal trainer or a doctor ,for $2500 a throw, he sucks their blood with a 7 step martingale.
The marty or better still the grand marty has its' place but never run it longer than 4 step, max, hey hey.
I might have to watch it on Netflix.
The only way to tell if live training is worthwhile is to either do it yourself or have a verified independent review source that you can look over. How do you know he doesn't live in a joint like this? The address is outside of Dallas/ Ft. Worth
(https://betselection.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fww1.hdnux.com%2Fphotos%2F36%2F32%2F26%2F7972228%2F7%2F920x920.jpg&hash=b711e8c8f9a8ab62f54287e4d666e7bbbc389c6a)
If you have the advantage of playing in a top house, you should run across plenty of sharp players that you can learn from for zero fee. They most likely aren't going to give you a play by play.
the level of sarcasm from some of you guys are hilarious. you guys seem to "know it all". keep living that way i guess. i just told my experiences with his original technique and i have just started using his improved method. i didn't follow his method to a T because i got too greedy. who knows if i would be in a much better position today if i had done so. all i know is, im very satisfied so far with this new setup.
21aces, that address leads to a baccarat storefront. i believe he has 3 cashiers and all day long, customers come rolling in to purchase what he has to sell. on a serious note, im sure its not his personal home address. must be a PO box type thing or an office.
alrelax, are you asking me that question?
what does my username tell you? i really don't know how you figured PA from what i mentioned when my username has where im from lol . that's probably how you read into things. you totally assumed i was talking about dr. tom and this is a stupid system and you were wrong there. maybe find out a little more about something before giving your opinion. might have credibility down the road that way.
restaurants in the 80's and 90's? wow, you sound like an old fart. just kidding. where are you now?
Quote from: brokerny on December 16, 2016, 11:34:04 PM
restaurants in the 80's and 90's? wow, you sound like an old fart. just kidding. where are you now?
There goes some of the better times in AC before its downfall when the baccarat tables were full in the HL's.
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/my-4-most-'boss'-baccarat-games-wdetails/
Mind if I join here I cannot help just reading replies. I personally that no such system is made or working for you to win. A method might be possible but it's for table game since strategy can be consider as method to win
brokerny, you have a pretty smart mouth for someone new here. Nobody really gives a F about your instructor bro because any real player knows that it's possible to win consistently at the game. Insulting one of the most active members here and others because what?
$2,500 is nothing. Attorneys charge a good amount for a basic consult on the most minor issues. Nothing wrong with doing something for money and it is likely that they're good.
Quote from: brokerny on December 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
what does my username tell you? i really don't know how you figured PA from what i mentioned when my username has where im from lol . that's probably how you read into things. you totally assumed i was talking about dr. tom and this is a stupid system and you were wrong there. maybe find out a little more about something before giving your opinion. might have credibility down the road that way.
Oh, I didn't see Broker NY, I saw Broke Ernie.
Old gamblers never die ...........their bankrolls just fade away...........
Quote from: 21 Aces on December 17, 2016, 09:28:15 AM
Nobody really gives a F about your instructor bro because any real player knows that it's possible to win consistently at the game.
Actually, some cats do win well, and regular like, hey hey.
Hey I apologize to all, not just alrelax if I said something wrong. Maybe it is that I'm from Brooklyn or maybe I just felt that asking where I'm from when it's said in my username kinda ridiculous. I didn't mean any harm or Ill intent by it though. But the fact that I'm new or not doesn't give any of you veterans a right to have a smart mouth either and practically everyone was involved with smart mouthing(talking stuff and sarcasm)
Quote from: brokerny on December 17, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
Hey I apologize to all, not just alrelax if I said something wrong. Maybe it is that I'm from Brooklyn or maybe I just felt that asking where I'm from when it's said in my username kinda ridiculous. I didn't mean any harm or Ill intent by it though. But the fact that I'm new or not doesn't give any of you veterans a right to have a smart mouth either and practically everyone was involved with smart mouthing(talking stuff and sarcasm)
Who are you kidding? You are from NY and you can't handle trash talk. Something sounds fishy.
Giz, I didn't post on here to hear trash. I just wanted responses of possibly yes or no if they have heard of this site or had past dealings with it. The responses went south and were completely negative. So push comes to shove. And than 21aces said I was offensive so I figured I should apologize. So there is nothing fishy here except maybe it's your time of the month.
OK guys. Let's take a break and try a bit of decaf before the next round of messages.
No need to get snarky or throw fake insults at each other.
In a very long career I had to learn to deal with the "New York Attitude" many times all around the world.
Like they said in "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Universe", they're "Mostly Harmless".
Carry on.
AD
I said it again and I'll say it before, parlays are a serious play for serious cats, hey hey.