Hi guys!
I'm new to this forum and I hope this site is different from another site.
A little background about myself. I play baccarat for the last 7 years. I would say the casinos are paying me well after all these years.
Today is my off-day at the casinos and there's nothing much to do so, why not share my baccarat insights to this game we love to beat.
To all the baccarat enthusiasts here, let me share to you my guiding principles in beating the game everyday.
1. DO have a solid plan and stick with it.
"How much I want to earn today? How many games will I play to achieve this? How many hours do I need to reach my profit goal? How much capital should I bring? What method should I use? Am I still competitive to play today or am I already physically tired, sleepy and mentally exhausted for the day?" These are the questions you should ask yourself before you decide to have your baccarat session for the day.
2. DO NOT hit the casinos with limited capital.
This is the basic mistake of ordinary gamblers. 99% of the time you will not recover from your downswing if you have a tight spread. When playing baccarat, you should always be battle ready and it all starts with your bankroll.
3. DO NOT play when you're sleepy, tired, angry, or under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
A competitive mind & body is a requirement to professionally play the game of baccarat and beat it on a consistent basis. The game is already mentally challenging so we need all the focus we can get.
4. AVOID the pitfall of trending or pattern analysis.
If you're still trending or looking for patterns, then, whatever strategy or system you're using has long been outdated. Trending is as old as the game itself. Casinos already knew the betting tendencies of ordinary gamblers using trending. So, you're just repeating history.
5. NEVER bet on side bets.
C'mon man, no further explanation needed. These are sucker bets.
6. ACCEPT a losing game and LEARN from it.
Call me a hypocrite if I say to you I don't lose baccarat games. I do lose baccarat games. It's inevitable but manageable. For as long as you know how to win more when you win and lose less when you lose then, your winnings will outweigh your losses.
7. CONTROL your anger especially on losing plays.
According to medical research, an individual can not make sound decisions when in a state of anger. We can't argue this. Learn to laugh at your losing plays. If you hate laughing (who the hell doesn't laugh?), adopt a poker face when playing the game.
8. GIVE tips every baccarat game you play.
I give tips (usually 5% of my base bet) after every baccarat game not to please the dealers but to "mock" the eye in the sky for protecting my bankroll again and again. It's a mockery to them that I have a solid method that keeps milking them every single day.
9. PRACTICE, practice, and more practice.
Practice makes your baccarat skills sharp. There are lots of online baccarat games that you can play for free. Maximize these sites.
10. NEVER forget these guiding principles.
I think this is self-explanatory. Ayt?
Until next time.
More 9s to your baccarat games!
Can't argue with any of that.
Me too, I agree with every single point you listed.
But I have to ask: since 99% of players tend to follow trends, what other strategy do you use?
as.
Guys, thanks for reading my post.
I hope I contributed something.
Just woke up coming from 3 days of casino work.
I only grind 5x a week at casinos with a 2-day break in between.
For example, if I play Mon-Tue-Wed, my 1-day break is on Thu. No casino work today just rest because by tomorrow (Fri) and Sat, I'm back to casino work again then rest again on Sunday.
This is how I condition my body & mind for the grind.
So, my apology to you AsymBacGuy for this late reply.
I can not post my method of play here because this is a free forum.
There is a proper avenue to discuss my method of play.
If you're sharp enough, you will find where my blog is.
My primary intention of joining this forum is to post simple but insightful articles during my off-day at casino work.
This is the least I can do to struggling bacc players. From time to time, a little motivation could be of great help.
I read some of the articles posted here and for me, they're too technical to comprehend. Is baccarat really that complicated?
Simple yet insightful is fine with me.
GR8, is that you? He's famous for making long posts
that cover everything from how to bet to where to
park in the parking garage. Not a word on bet selection,
never tells you where to place the winning bet. Which
is all everybody wants to know.
Quote from: spike on April 05, 2014, 10:26:05 PM
GR8, is that you? He's famous for making long posts
that cover everything from how to bet to where to
park in the parking garage. Not a word on bet selection,
never tells you where to place the winning bet. Which
is all everybody wants to know.
Hi Spike.
No. I'm not GR8.
I am Alvin Tuarez and I am known on my blogsite as Baccarat King. This moniker was given to me by a Korean gambler whom I helped
recover from his huge losses by winning 24 consecutive hands in a single game. So, I believe this is not really my personal choice.
You should take my baccarat challenge on my blog to see for yourself if your existing strategy or system of play is really helping you.
Otherwise, if you have success with what you have, stick with it.
Quote from: Archie on April 05, 2014, 10:55:11 PM
Somebody from Beatthecasino. S/he was talking about Nor, etc, the other day.
They put out feelers over there across the web, in search of "like-minded gamblers from around the world," lol.
C'mon Archie!
Are we allowed to promote baccarat sites here?
Maybe you're an affiliate marketer of that site? Just focus on playing baccarat. It's more profitable.
This is what I miss by playing baccarat for a living --- gossips / hearsays.
Archie, if you want to contribute for the betterment of this site, why not try to write an insightful post so the silent members here can
benefit? Gossips should have no place here. Otherwise, let's change the name of this forum to GossipSelection.cc, Ayt?
Like I said, if you're smart enough you know where to find my blog.
Hi and thanks for your answer iplay.
Unlike to what you think, we are sure baccarat is a very complicated game. And to get a possible edge we are compelled to study many hidden "technical" aspects.
In our opinion a possible long term valid procedure must pass long series of pc tests, otherwise we are talking about fried air.
Moreover, we think a system must win itlr by a simple flat betting procedure. That's one of the easiest way to confirm a positive edge for the player. Secondarly, someone has to convince us why we should get this kind of edge by flat betting.
I tried to illustrate some points in my posts anyone might argue about, are you willing to give us more details about your winning approach? Thanks!
as.
Hi AsymBacGuy.
Yes I read your post. Very informative.
I commend people like you. I hope more members will also post insightful ideas.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 06, 2014, 08:48:34 PMUnlike to what you think, we are sure baccarat is a very complicated game. And to get a possible edge we are compelled to study many hidden "technical" aspects.
I agree with you here. Casinos will not take you lightly especially when you are "milking" them everyday. Their job is to detect system-players like us and to counter whatever method, system or strategy we are using. Casinos are very good in breaking you down mentally and financially.
Before I decided to play baccarat for a living, I intensively studied the underlying mathematics and psychology of the game. For the last seven years up to present, I'm still studying them to see whether they (casinos) already have countermeasure/s against my method of play. And in the event, they found out the weakness of my method, I already have, not only 1 but 2, countermeasures against them should these happen. That's how advanced and ahead my methodology is.
Moves and countermoves, my friend.
Unfortunately for the casinos, they haven't countered my method yet. As of the moment, they're just relying on the event that I will loose control someday and give it all back. This is wishful thinking on their part.
I am a very technical player and recklessness is not on my method of play.
And besides, how will the casinos "get it all back" if whenever I play I have 1,000 action bets at my disposal. Meaning, for me to lose my baccarat session, I have to make 1,000 wrong (losing) bets in a row which for me is impossible.
When I started winning using my method, my goal is to build a massive bankroll that casinos could not easily break. I succeeded on that aspect.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 06, 2014, 08:48:34 PMIn our opinion a possible long term valid procedure must pass long series of pc tests, otherwise we are talking about fried air.
I always respect other people's opinion. If you think your system should be tested on thousands or millions of shoes/decisions then, go ahead test it. If you think your system is not yet ready for real casino play because it has yet to reach a certain number of tests, then don't hit the casinos yet. Besides, it's your time and money we're talking about not mine, not theirs.
But, in a real casino environment, this is what will happen.
1. You play baccarat using your system. The casino personnel will definitely detect it.
2. You have some sort of recording sheet or chart when you play. The casino personnel will definitely notice it.
3. You won a substantial amount that day. The casino personnel have a record of your buy-ins and winnings/losings.
4. You play baccarat again the following day on that same casino thinking your system is solid. Since, you only visited them (casino) once they think you just got lucky. So, "no countermoves" on their part.
5. You won again the following day. Now, you're very excited. You've won two days in a row. That must be something you said to yourself. So you went back again for the third time.
6. Let's say, you won for 7 straight days using your system. You're now feeling invincible with your system. So, you play again using your system but this time you increased your bets because you think you have enough money edge against them. Unfortunately, you lost. The worst part, you lost everything including your capital.
What happened on this given scenarios?
Moves and countermoves.
You made a move against the casino (you won 7 straight days) and then, they (casino) countermoved you on the 8th day.
So, what's my point? Three points only.
First, you don't need a long series of pc tests. Like you said, it's a pc test. The real test of your system is on a real casino environment. And it's not only your system that is being tested, it's you also. How you as a baccarat player react on the booms and busts of the game.
Second, although your system withstood let's say quadrillions of baccarat shoes, if you breakdown those shoes it's still a combination of opposites, repeats, neutral, and P/B dominance.
Third, nobody can live that long to play millions of baccarat shoes or billions of it. That's an impossibility.
Me, I've been playing moves and countermoves with them (casinos) for the last 7 years. Unfortunately for them (casinos), they're still 3 steps behind me.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 06, 2014, 08:48:34 PMMoreover, we think a system must win itlr by a simple flat betting procedure. That's one of the easiest way to confirm a positive edge for the player.
I have nothing against flat-bettors. Me too started as a flat-bettor. But this is what I learned through the years, "If you're too careful on your baccarat plays, then you're life on the baccarat tables could be a f***ing grind."
Exploitable situations in a shoe will only appear once or maybe twice. I don't think flat-betting can maximize those situations especially when you were hit by a downswing (consecutive losses) early in the game.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 06, 2014, 08:48:34 PMSecondarly, someone has to convince us why we should get this kind of edge by flat betting.
As a baccarat mentor, it's never my style to convince people. I enlighten them.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 06, 2014, 08:48:34 PMI tried to illustrate some points in my posts anyone might argue about, are you willing to give us more details about your winning approach?
Yes. I read your very good post. I respect you for that.
No. I cannot give details of my methodology here. There is a proper avenue for that. If you're smart and resourceful (which I think you are), you can find my blog site. Need hint? iplayforaliving
I genuinely appreciate your thoughts and we are sure you are a serious bac player and we'll keep in high regard what you wrote.
Anyway, if a player isn't able to explain why he/she should get a long term edge, we have to strongly dismiss every assumption.
To beat an EV- game, we players must demonstrate to get a long term edge, since we cannot lie to ourselves.
Hence, in our opinion, the more we'll play (in selected circumstances), the more we'll win.
In order to constantly win at baccarat, we'll have to set up a betting model where the long run help us. Hence, we must have observed that itlr our selected bets are EV+. Slightly, still EV+.
To get this "crazy" assumption, we had to run millions and millions shoes tests. Obviously we don't have to actually play millions of shoe in our mortal life, but we cannot skip the long term concept.
Let's put the issue in those terms: any "unintelligent" player might win per every 3-4 or even 10 sessions. Nobody or almost nobody can win in a 1000 sessions sample because the EV- edge will overcome any acutely pondered bet selection.
Therefore, any long term winning player must show to the world why some bets are more profitable than others, itlr. A difficult thing to do.
as.
This was one of the testimonials from his website:
As a math professor, I knew the game of baccarat favors the house in the long run. The possibility of beating the game long term is next to none. But this guy somewhat found a "chink" on the solid armor of the casinos that is worth looking into. I've never seen a method like this before. [/size]- Professor Jesse C., Asia
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Must have been one of those math professors from one of those little known schools like Harvard. Certainly no one would put a testimonial from a mail order school......
Quote from: NathanDetroit on April 14, 2014, 11:35:58 PM
The author of this thread is a system seller. Guys like that are a dime a dozen.
He has lost his shirt and is now resorting to this tactic. They all do.
[size=78%]Should have posted at Systems for sale.[/size]
Are you my wife? I don't think so. Only my wife knows how much money we have on our banks, on our investments, on our business rentals, and on the money I bring everytime I hit the casinos.
I know half a millon dollar bankroll will not raise an eyebrow because professional players like us are used to see these amount of money on the bacc tables. Are you accustomed to these kind of wagers --- USD500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 6,000, 9,000, 12,000 and 36,000? Have you thrown any of these? These are both winning and losing bets? I hope you don't throw-up when you win or lose that USD36,000 bet.
Lost my shirt? C'mon man! Only on your delusions!
I think your post was the one misplaced.
You should have created a new section entitled, Gossip/Hearsay Forum.
Maybe you can request this to our moderators. Ayt?
Quote from: Wally Gator on April 15, 2014, 01:05:22 AM
This was one of the testimonials from his website:
As a math professor, I knew the game of baccarat favors the house in the long run. The possibility of beating the game long term is next to none. But this guy somewhat found a "chink" on the solid armor of the casinos that is worth looking into. I've never seen a method like this before. - Professor Jesse C., Asia
Must have been one of those math professors from one of those little known schools like Harvard. Certainly no one would put a testimonial from a mail order school......
This sounds RACIST to me.
I hope other Asian members will not be offended by your quote.
My advice to you, Wally Gator, is the same as that of NathanDetroit, "If you got nothing good to say to a person, just shut up."
Bad thing about Prof. Jesse, he's not here to defend himself. But I know him better. He will not give his precious time with grown-up infants.
Did you not understand what Prof. Jesse say about my methodology?
Mathematically, all systems or methods will fail when tested under millions or billions or quadrillons of baccarat decisions. But it doesn't mean the game is unbeatable.
The key to winning consistently on this game is to find that "chinks" that you can exploit to your advantage. This is what I discovered. This is what I teach my clients. This is also the same exploitation that the professor applies whenever he uses my methodology.
If you don't like my posts, just ignore it man. It's no big deal.
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 15, 2014, 06:13:47 AM
This sounds RACIST to me.
I hope other Asian members will not be offended by your quote.
Oh, Please. That's so lame.
AD
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 15, 2014, 06:13:47 AM
If you don't like my posts, just ignore it man. It's no big deal.
You're right, it's no big deal. So, why are you making it into one? If you're going to post nonsense and provide "clues" to lead people to your website, then expect to be called on the stuff you are espousing.
Quote from: Wally Gator on April 16, 2014, 02:16:52 AM
If you're going to post nonsense and provide "clues" to lead people to your website, then expect to be called on the stuff you are espousing.
I think "the number of views" says OTHERWISE.
You cannot easily put me down because I know how all these things work.
For as long as I am not violating the forum rules I will continue to post insightful ideas.
This is not for you Wally Gator. I don't care about you.
I care for the other (silent) members of this forum.
They're sending me PM to write insightful ideas. Who am I not to oblige?
Just be sure to yourself not to read my upcoming post/s, ayt?
Peace man!
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 16, 2014, 07:53:56 AM
For as long as I am not violating the forum rules I will continue to post insightful ideas.
You're not, and please do! ;)
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 10, 2014, 08:00:21 AM
You made a move against the casino (you won 7 straight days) and then, they (casino) countermoved you on the 8th day.
I play bac, what 'countermoves' are you talking about.
They took all your money with a countermove? How?
The only thing a casino could do, if they understood
your system completely, would be to slip in a special
shuffled deck just to defeat you. But it wouldn't work
because the other players would slaughter it.
So what are you talking about. The only move the casino
has is to ban you, or limit the amount you can bet.
If you use a progression, they can flat bet you. But that
won't make you lose, just win less.
So give us a countermove. Just one.
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AM
I play bac, what 'countermoves' are you talking about.
On what level? Social or professional?
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMThey took all your money with a countermove? How?
You can talk to my accountant and my financial advisors about my finances. However, you will be put on queue because their busy.
You can talk to my wife but I doubt if she will talk to a person hiding on a pseudonym.
Well, you can visit my site iplayforaliving dot com so you will have an idea how much to maintain such site. Fyi, I got 5 people under my payroll just to run my site. At least I create jobs to other people. Have you?
Fyi again, I bring 1,000 UNITS for my bankroll having a minimum base bet of USD500 everyday so this makes me hard to break every bacc game. Do the math and you should know what I'm referring to.
Now, do you think I lost money on casino countermoves? C'mon man, wake up!
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMThe only thing a casino could do, if they understood
your system completely, would be to slip in a special
shuffled deck just to defeat you.
C'mon man! There's no such thing as "special shuffled deck." Where did you learn that stuff?
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMBut it wouldn't work
because the other players would slaughter it.
Believe me, they can do this. Unfortunately for them, my method of play is not affected by your so-called "special shuffled deck." And I am proving it year after year after year of baccarat play.
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMSo what are you talking about. The only move the casino
has is to ban you,
You can ask the management of Resorts World Manila why they suspended me and my Team from 2011-2012.
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMor limit the amount you can bet.
If you use a progression, they can flat bet you. But that
won't make you lose, just win less.
You can ask Resorts World Singapore why they capped our maximum bet.
Quote from: spike on April 21, 2014, 03:14:41 AMSo give us a countermove. Just one.
Have you been surrounded by 6 casino personnel while playing at Ji Mei? I did.
Have you played a baccarat shoe of less than 54 plays that lasted 5 hours because you were ahead by +90 units? Where the dealer kept on doing nonsense stuffs like counting the chips on the money tray after every hand. And when you tried to look for another table there were NO baccarat shoes available on all areas? I did. You can ask the management of Hyatt Hotel & Casino.
Do you want more countermoves? You only asked one, I gave you four.
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 22, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
Have you played a baccarat shoe of less than 54 plays that lasted 5 hours because you were ahead by +90 units? Where the dealer kept on doing nonsense stuffs like counting the chips on the money tray after every hand. And when you tried to look for another table there were NO baccarat shoes available on all areas? I did. You can ask the management of Hyatt Hotel & Casino.
First of all, why would you sit there for 5
hours, that's crazy. You looked for another
table and they were shut down because of
your play? So what you're saying is, the casino
slowed the game to a crawl at your table, and
shut down all the other games, just to control
YOUR play?
Are you serious? I've been going to casinos since
1975, as I've stated many times. In almost 40
years of play, I've never seen or heard of this
happening. Are you sure this is the story you want
to put forth? I'm skeptical to the point of disbelief.
Quote from: spike on April 24, 2014, 07:03:36 AM
First of all, why would you sit there for 5
hours, that's crazy.
It's not craziness. It's called EXPLOITING the shoe at hand. Not everyday you have the chance to empty the baccarat table money tray. I saw my mark, I went for it. Quote from: spike on April 24, 2014, 07:03:36 AMYou looked for another
table and they were shut down because of
your play? So what you're saying is, the casino
slowed the game to a crawl at your table, and
shut down all the other games, just to control
YOUR play?
Believe it or not, that's what happened. I even told you the particular casino. If only they allow to take pictures inside the casino, I could have taken the picture of the whole area and send it to you online. Unfortunately, the use of camera is not allowed.
Quote from: spike on April 24, 2014, 07:03:36 AMAre you serious? I've been going to casinos since
1975, as I've stated many times. In almost 40
years of play, I've never seen or heard of this
happening. Are you sure this is the story you want
to put forth? I'm skeptical to the point of disbelief.
Yes, I'm dead serious! And what will I gain from inventing such story?Wow! 40 years of casino experience! Maybe it's time to learn from your vast experience.Hit us with some insightful ideas from your baccarat plays.Do you have any?And please, don't give me the horseshit of trending past events or any approach that uses past P/B outcomes as basis of your bet placements. It's as OLD as the game itself.Hit me with something NEW.
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 24, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
Yes, I'm dead serious! And what will I gain from inventing such story?
Let me get this straight. The casino considers you
such a dangerous player that they slowed the deal
down to a crawl and closed the other tables so
you couldn't play at them.
I can't top that for a story. I don't believe a word
of it, I think it's pure fantasy, but it's obvious you
don't take this seriously, so forget I said anything.
Now, if they had restricted your bet to the table
minimum, that I would have believed, because
that's a normal thing to do.
Quote from: spike on April 29, 2014, 03:18:25 AM
Let me get this straight. The casino considers you
such a dangerous player that they slowed the deal
down to a crawl and closed the other tables so
you couldn't play at them.
Hi spike. [/size]The casinos consider me a "mechanic" (a system-player), NOT a dangerous player.[/size]Like I said, if I see my MARK, I GO for it. The strengths of my method of play are on the NEUTRAL events.I know ALL the combinations that they use on Neutral events.[/size]Coincidentally, these very same neutral events are the bread and butter of the casinos.So, for an ordinary gambler who is winning, all the casinos have to do to "counter" his winnings, is to "spread" neutral events on all of their area. This is what they call, "boxing you up."Unfortunately, for them , they cannot do that to me. They knew my capability as a baccarat player.The most they can do to me is ANNOY me. But you know me, I'm always game on to such nuances. BUT if the casinos sent you a "message" that you have to leave their premises, believe me, you have TO LEAVE.By closing their tables because of lack of decks (?), that was the "message" I don't want to mess with.[/size][size=78%] [/size]Quote from: spike on April 29, 2014, 03:18:25 AMI can't top that for a story. I don't believe a word
of it, I think it's pure fantasy, but it's obvious you
don't take this seriously, so forget I said anything.
I respect your opinion spike.Like I said, what would I gain inventing such story?Will I hit my profit goal for the day with this story? I don't think so. Will I convince members to join my mentoring program? I don't think so.You asked for 1 countermove, I gave you 4 countermoves done to me in a real casino environment. It's not a story nor a fantasy. It's the fact. Like I said, you can ask the management of Hyatt Hotel & Casino.With your 40 years of gambling experience, I ask you to hit us with 1 "new" idea or approach in beating baccarat BUT up to present, did you DO this? The silent members here knew better.Quote from: spike on April 29, 2014, 03:18:25 AMNow, if they had restricted your bet to the table
minimum, that I would have believed, because
that's a normal thing to do.
Finally, we found something in common.
Cheers spike!
Well replied.
It's always best to refuse to bite back when someone tries to provoke a reaction.
The poor dears soon lose interest.
Oh come on please. Have been lurking this board for a while, but finally decided to post after reading so much waffle.
Anybody professing to making a living playing Baccarat does not need nor would bother with any mentoring program or take to the internet offering their serVices. Why would anybody feel the need to do this, out of the charity of their heart? You people can't be this stupid, surely not after decades of scams littering the internet.
Firstly to win consistently does not suddenly turn you into some charitable person, rather it tends to make you hard-nosed, shrift with a polarized self-centred vision (the arrogance of winning and having lots of cash), that is the nature of the beast when you are successful. Secondly a consistent winning player gets noticed by other players, there are many losing Baccarat players (some friendly and approachable) inside every casinos, there is no need to advertise or go to such lengths as using Google images to knock together some web-site looking for fresh meat. This person can make more than he could ever charge for tuition, it doesn't make sense. They are all round you, if you really wanted to help any fellow player out.
Rather, this is just another of a long line of scam-artists that come and go as the years roll by, has a good yarn, hoping to offset their own losses from the gullible.
Well done, seen it all before a hundred time already, no doubt Alvin won't be the last, whatever you decide to do, just remember why does he need your money, when he can make more than he is trying to charge you in less than a shoe? So you don't need to send him a cent, if he really wanted to help you rather than himself, his posts wouldn't consist of un-substantiated fabricated tales and pointers to his smoke and mirrors shop front (yeah I'm sure casino management will explain their actions should somebody make a phone call). Laughable and a poor reflection of this web-site that scammers are giving free regain to exploit.
Rolex Watch !
BULLS EYE !!! ( with your above post # 26)
ND aka W.!
"Laughable and a poor reflection of this web-site that scammers are giving free regain to exploit."
(Presumably you mean free rein?)
If you have cold, hard evidence the poster is a scammer then kindly post it.
If you don't have such evidence not, then kindly keep those sorts of libelous opinions to yourself.
You're new to the forum, so this time no action will be taken.
Meanwhile, let me draw your attention to this forum's clearly-worded, unambiguous rules (http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/our-forum's-very-straightforward-*rules*/) and behavioural expectations of all of us.
iplayforaliving looks like he is fishing for buyers to me.
Doesn't look like this to you esoito?
The forum rules say:
"Since this is a space for posting and analyzing bets for making conclusions: No bloviating, no hinting-only".
Coming here and bragging about beating a game of chance without offering the method, is bad taste at least. If you don't want to describe your method fine, but do not brag or hint about being a winner so much - what's the use of this?
Well the use is to attract buyers let me tell you.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on April 29, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Oh come on please. Have been lurking this board for a while, but finally decided to post after reading so much waffle.
Anybody professing to making a living playing Baccarat does not need nor would bother with any mentoring program or take to the internet offering their serVices. Why would anybody feel the need to do this, out of the charity of their heart? You people can't be this stupid, surely not after decades of scams littering the internet.
Firstly to win consistently does not suddenly turn you into some charitable person, rather it tends to make you hard-nosed, shrift with a polarized self-centred vision (the arrogance of winning and having lots of cash), that is the nature of the beast when you are successful. Secondly a consistent winning player gets noticed by other players, there are many losing Baccarat players (some friendly and approachable) inside every casinos, there is no need to advertise or go to such lengths as using Google images to knock together some web-site looking for fresh meat. This person can make more than he could ever charge for tuition, it doesn't make sense. They are all round you, if you really wanted to help any fellow player out.
Rather, this is just another of a long line of scam-artists that come and go as the years roll by, has a good yarn, hoping to offset their own losses from the gullible.
Well done, seen it all before a hundred time already, no doubt Alvin won't be the last, whatever you decide to do, just remember why does he need your money, when he can make more than he is trying to charge you in less than a shoe? So you don't need to send him a cent, if he really wanted to help you rather than himself, his posts wouldn't consist of un-substantiated fabricated tales and pointers to his smoke and mirrors shop front (yeah I'm sure casino management will explain their actions should somebody make a phone call). Laughable and a poor reflection of this web-site that scammers are giving free regain to exploit.
Hi rolex watch and welcome to BetSelection.cc
This is a baccarat forum and I just want to remind you of this.
You can attack me personally because it's your free will to do it.
But if you don't have any evidence of me being a scam-artist then, it's time to shut up.
It will not do any good on this forum.
My name is Alvin Tuarez and you can google search me so you can check if I have anomalous transactions in the past.
At least I have the guts to say my name publicly and not hide under my pseudonym?
Can you do that? Let's see.
Members of this site who availed my baccarat mentoring program will not step down at your level.
They are educated people BUT please don't call them suckers as what you did on my other post.
Do not worry. If these members are not satisfied with my baccarat mentoring service then they're the first one to post it here.
Why can't you wait?
Because they are satisfied my friend. There's nothing to complain.
I don't know your real intention as to why you have to attack me but please back it up with evidence.
Otherwise, you're in the wrong forum.
Try searching Gossip.com or Hearsay.com or IJustWantToAttackYou.com ;)
Quote from: Kav on April 30, 2014, 02:57:14 AM
iplayforaliving looks like he is fishing for buyers to me.
Doesn't look like this to you esoito?
The forum rules say:
"Since this is a space for posting and analyzing bets for making conclusions: No bloviating, no hinting-only".
Coming here and bragging about beating a game of chance without offering the method, is bad taste at least. If you don't want to describe your method fine, but do not brag or hint about being a winner so much - what's the use of this?
Well the use is to attract buyers let me tell you.
Hi kav.
Did you read carefully my post?
[/size]I wrote a post that NOBODY did then suddenly all hell broke loose.[size=78%][/size]Did you notice who started all this?If you can't dig me, then just ignore me. It's that simple! ;)
Quote from: esoito on April 29, 2014, 12:37:36 PM
Well replied.
It's always best to refuse to bite back when someone tries to provoke a reaction.
The poor dears soon lose interest.
Thank you for your kind words, esoito.
You know me man. I'm always game on! 8)
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 30, 2014, 11:12:20 AM
But if you don't have any evidence of me being a scam-artist then, it's time to shut up.
My name is Alvin Tuarez and you can google search me so you can check if I have anomalous transactions in the past.
I just did, all I got was links to your site and here, proves nothing.
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 30, 2014, 11:12:20 AMAt least I have the guts to say my name publicly and not hide under my pseudonym?
Again proves nothing.
Quote from: iplayforaliving on April 30, 2014, 11:12:20 AMThey are educated people BUT please don't call them suckers as what you did on my other post.
they are the latter, casinos are full of suckers, literally. So why go to the trouble of creating a web-site to reel them in, when they are ripe for the picking all around you? Maybe they might want to see a demonstration for themselves first, perhaps they know you, best avoiding face to face contact when your not genuine and can't deliver.
You remind me of somebody on the old Baccaratforums site, he also created a slick looking web-site expecting to reel them in. Anyway you're a top notch winner, have random outcomes all figured out, right? You don't need people's money when you can make as much as you like from the Baccarat tables, so why charge anything for mentoring, why take on something that you can't possibly control. Nobody can play like anybody else because simply they are not them, we all react differently at the tables to wins, losses and placing of chips. Why would any successful player want the hassle of somebody coming back and saying "it doesn't work", I would have thought your precious time would be better spent taking chips from the casinos than mentoring, no hassles, no headaches and for what, the cost of less than half of your unit value.
Consistent winners get sick of people asking "how's it going today", "are you winning today", get sick of being noticed day in and day out, the last thing any consistant winner wants, is to start taking on students via the internet, they would rather keep their head down and take their daily wedge from the casino coffers and move on. Of course your tale doesn't add up in any shape or form and I suggest you get busy creating some new bogus ID's who can then thank you for your tuition.
There is absolutely nothing that you can do which hasn't been seen before across the internet by people who have lost so much through gambling, that they lose their moral compass and will resort to any means to recreate a bankroll so they can have another go.
QuoteiPlayForALiving
"Make Money Anytime, Anywhere!"
Yet shall gladly accept you paying me $45 for a staking plan which you can run at your own risk against a series of coin flips.
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Quote from: Kav on April 30, 2014, 02:57:14 AM
iplayforaliving looks like he is fishing for buyers to me.
Doesn't look like this to you esoito?
The forum rules say:
"Since this is a space for posting and analyzing bets for making conclusions: No bloviating, no hinting-only".
Coming here and bragging about beating a game of chance without offering the method, is bad taste at least. If you don't want to describe your method fine, but do not brag or hint about being a winner so much - what's the use of this?
Well the use is to attract buyers let me tell you.
BINGO !!! Well said, Kav. It's interesting that Esoito deleted a post of mine in support of this guy. Not sure what's going on with that. I guess the rules are only good for certain folks, which is why so many have left this forum.
I'm with Nathan Detroit's line of thinking here until further evidence arises one way or the other...so far the math just isn't adding up
Here's a suggestion to try to lay to rest all the negative comments that are based on opinions and not evidence.
Iplayforaliving could offer a free membership to Adulay who, as we all know, is not only a moderator but is also a very experienced baccarat player.
If Adulay agrees, then we can all be guided by Adulay's report to us, which will be based on facts and not on baseless conjecture and guesses that proliferate at the moment.
Hey that's not a bad idea esoito!
10-1 he won't take you up on it though. :whistle:
Quote from: esoito on April 29, 2014, 11:38:53 PM
If you have cold, hard evidence the poster is a scammer then kindly post it.
And what would that consist of, exactly? It's pretty hard to prove that someone is a scammer. If a few members came forward and said they were ripped off by this guy, would that do? That's hardly likely to happen is it? These people would be too embarrassed and ashamed to come forward.
In a court of law, you're usually assumed innocent until proven guilty, but in this case, given that no winning system at baccarat is mathematically possible, the casinos are still open for business, every system touted as winner has been proved a failure, then you should be assumed guilty until proved innocent.
I simple rule of the thumb: If it waddles like a duck and it quacks like a duck then it is a duck. Easy way to sniff out scammers .
Without attention they will waddle away.
I bought the system so I will give you an honest report in the near future.I've been around the block so I expect this to fail like every other method but I will give this a real shot at working.
Quote from: Pink Floyd 25 on May 23, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
I bought the system so I will give you an honest report in the near future.I've been around the block so I expect this to fail like every other method but I will give this a real shot at working.
Welcome to the forum!
I, and others too I expect, will be most interested in what you have to tell us.
Trouble is, I can already imagine some responses along the lines of "how do we know this person is truly independent and is not actually the system-seller under another name?"
A fair question is it not?
Esoito,
you ask fair questions & I think your impression of me could go along way here. If you can contact me privately perhaps we can have a phone conversation. That should give you a better idea about my character.
Well done. A positive offer. :thumbsup: But I'm not sure I have the skills to accurately discern anybody's character over the phone!
However, I'm generally not far off the mark in analysing their writing, as I've had training in that discipline.
But your offer does at least show that you've tried to be upfront and open, so thank you for making the effort.
I think that for now we'll just patiently wait to see what you have to say about your purchase, and take it from there.
So. Over to you when you're ready...No rush.
Baccarat is such a delicious and frustrating game. Going mano a mano vs a Casino is the ultimate for me. I hold my own against them, but not by much. In comparison to others, my results aren't so bad. I admire persons who develop methodologies that result in positive results for themselves. Is there anything wrong with these persons trying to market these same skills to others? We are all adults here. So, it our own choice whether to take them up on their offer. If it works out for a person, great! If not, are you any worse off than before trying the numerous others system you purchased ?
Hope anyone who has been mentored by Alvin has been successful. As well as anyone who has purchased other "systems" in the market place.
Wish negative people would stop the bashing. It can come from a place within them that either they are frustrated that what they have been trying isn't working. Or, they are jealous that a person has come up with a way to beat a casino (temporarily), and is showing others to do the same.
Joey
Well, it's 5 months later and no review yet from Pink Floyd.
And it's interesting to note iplayforaliving suddenly disappeared from the forum without any explanation.
Perhaps they were both wings of the same bird.
Or perhaps nobody wanted to spend $540 on so-called tuition!
For one who claimed to be so expert at baccarat Google threw up less than 10 hits on his name.
It always gets back to caveat emptor, caveat lector.
Some are able to spot the scams faster than others
@RW: And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.
[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]
Sometimes 'giving the benefit of the doubt' is enough for a scammer to eventually over-reach and reveal themselves in their true colours.
Quote from: joeystyle on October 07, 2014, 01:56:33 PM
Baccarat is such a delicious and frustrating game. Going mano a mano vs a Casino is the ultimate for me. I hold my own against them, but not by much. In comparison to others, my results aren't so bad. I admire persons who develop methodologies that result in positive results for themselves. Is there anything wrong with these persons trying to market these same skills to others? We are all adults here. So, it our own choice whether to take them up on their offer. If it works out for a person, great! If not, are you any worse off than before trying the numerous others system you purchased ?
Hope anyone who has been mentored by Alvin has been successful. As well as anyone who has purchased other "systems" in the market place.
Wish negative people would stop the bashing. It can come from a place within them that either they are frustrated that what they have been trying isn't working. Or, they are jealous that a person has come up with a way to beat a casino (temporarily), and is showing others to do the same.
Joey
Hi Joey.
I'm one of the members of Alvin. I joined his baccarat mentoring program only last May of this year.
Although, it took me three months to fully understood all the principles behind his Precision Baccarat Method, I got no regrets joining his program. The guy is indeed true to his claims. IMHO, he really was able to crack baccarat.
Here's the coverage of his program. It's enough to make you a better if not, the best baccarat player over that baccarat tables. The $540 investment is worth it. I got no regrets. If you wanted to further improve your baccarat skills, I highly recommend his program. :thumbsup:
Table of Contents
Acknowledgement
Preface: Be In Control of Your Financial Future
Rules of the Game
Day 1: The Beginning of Your Baccarat Journey
Day 2: The Importance of Charting
Day 3: The Win-Loss Adjusting Progression (WiLAP)
Day 4: The Winning Strategy - Bet Selections
Day 5: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Neutral Codes
Day 6: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Opposite-Repeat Codes
Day 7: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Overlapping Triplets
Day 8: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Grey Shaded Areas
Day 9: Money Managment - How To Build A Massive Bankroll
Day 10: Precision Baccarat: The Simple Point-Value Method
Day 11: Playing Baccarat For A Living
Day 12: Casino Countermeasures Against System-Players Like Us
Day 13: The Game Of Chance Versus Science
Day 14: What To Expect In The Beginning
Epilogue: See You In The Casinos
Btw, I started applying his system on live plays last month and so far, so very good! I'm loving it! :thumbsup:
Natural 9
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on October 08, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Some are able to spot the scams faster than others
Hi Rolex-Watch.
As a member of Alvin's program, I am telling you the guy is legit. :thumbsup:
Natural 9
Quote from: esoito on October 09, 2014, 12:55:35 AM
@RW: And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.
[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]
Sometimes 'giving the benefit of the doubt' is enough for a scammer to eventually over-reach and reveal themselves in their true colours.
Hi esoito.
I also asked Alvin why he stopped posting threads on this forum.
His simple reply was, "Members there are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."
Fyi, his mother underwent a successful open-heart surgery last month.
Because of this incident, I was able to learn from two more baccarat mentors under his program.
You see, I got my money's worth. I'm very glad I am part of his baccarat breakthrough.
Natural 9
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 09, 2014, 11:20:59 PM
Hi esoito.
I also asked Alvin why he stopped posting threads on this forum.
His simple reply was, "Members there are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."
Fyi, his mother underwent a successful open-heart surgery last month.
Because of this incident, I was able to learn from two more baccarat mentors under his program.
You see, I got my money's worth. I'm very glad I am part of his baccarat breakthrough.
Natural 9
if its doing so good why not share it?
natural9 and iplayforaliving are the same person or are buddies. can it be any more obvious?
QuoteTable of Contents
Acknowledgement
Preface: Be In Control of Your Financial Future
Rules of the Game
Day 1: The Beginning of Your Baccarat Journey
Day 2: The Importance of Charting
Day 3: The Win-Loss Adjusting Progression (WiLAP)
Day 4: The Winning Strategy - Bet Selections
Day 5: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Neutral Codes
Day 6: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Opposite-Repeat Codes
Day 7: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Overlapping Triplets
Day 8: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Grey Shaded Areas
Day 9: Money Managment - How To Build A Massive Bankroll
Day 10: Precision Baccarat: The Simple Point-Value Method
Day 11: Playing Baccarat For A Living
Day 12: Casino Countermeasures Against System-Players Like Us
Day 13: The Game Of Chance Versus Science
Day 14: What To Expect In The Beginning
Epilogue: See You In The Casinos
Seems like a good tutorial. Why doesn't he write all this in form of a book? If his contents are so good, he can become an international bestseller like Thorpe.
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 14, 2014, 01:34:24 PM
if its doing so good why not share it?
Hi WBK.
Haven't you read our Forum Rules? :nope:
Rule #6 is the answer to your question. ;)
I got Alvin's complete system because I joined his baccarat mentoring program. :thumbsup:
I respect the guy and his copyrighted work. :thumbsup:
I don't want to be the reason why this site will be shut down because I posted Alvin's system here. :no:
Also, I don't think VLS will tolerate this action. He knows the consequences of such action. :nod:
Natural 9 :thumbsup:
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 15, 2014, 12:46:18 AM
natural9 and iplayforaliving are the same person or are buddies. can it be any more obvious?
WBK,
I just hope this is not a retaliation for not giving you Alvin's materials.
I already gave you my explanation on my PM to you.
Here's my Transaction ID: 25803866Z4155781S to Alvin's baccarat mentoring program.
Anybody can verify it anytime.
Natural 9
P.S. And yes, after learning that the guy is legit and his system really works over that baccarat tables under real casino environment, I am treating him as one of my close friends.
Quote from: Schoolman on October 14, 2014, 04:13:19 PM
There's something fishy going on here, I'm convinced of it. Yesterday I uploaded some results of an analysis on 1000 baccarat shoes showing that two of alrelax's "key wagers" didn't seem to hold much water. Leapyfrog also made some mildly critical contributions to that thread. Next thing I know the entire thread was deleted by alrelax. Maybe alrelax just didn't like being criticized, but anyway I intend to re-post my results in my own thread where they can't be deleted. I was going to do it today, but haven't had time.
I've no idea whether this "Alvin" character is "alrelax", it may just be a coincidence that both names start with the same letters.
Hi Schoolman.
You can add ADulay, Albalaha, Agesta1, AsymBacGuy, Azuleiro, Audionut, Abc123, Alexandro...
Let's go with the letter N...NathanDetroit, Nowun...
Are these forum names one and the same person?
I can't help myself laughing! :)) :)) :))
Let me end this with a quote...
"Suspicion is a heavy armor and with its weight, it impedes more than it protects." - Robert Burns :no:
Natural 9 ;)
[mod] Perhaps now the thread can get back to further productive discussions. With a user name like WorldBaccaratKing we can perhaps look forward to some positive contributions and insights into 'winning ways' from our new member. [/mod]
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 15, 2014, 04:51:11 AM
Hi Schoolman.
You can add ADulay, Albalaha, Agesta1, AsymBacGuy, Azuleiro, Audionut, Abc123, Alexandro...
Let's go with the letter N...NathanDetroit, Nowun...
Are these forum names one and the same person?
I can't help myself laughing! :)) :)) :))
I meant to say start with the same
two letters - al. Together with the other factors, I don't think that makes me so paranoid as you imagine.
Every new member talking too loud, assertive, suggestive, promoting or negating strange ideas makes me feel that it is an old cat in new hat.
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 09, 2014, 11:11:24 PM
Hi Rolex-Watch.
As a member of Alvin's program, I am telling you the guy is legit. :thumbsup:
Natural 9
Baccarat is random, it doesn't matter what anybody writes, after you see this or that you bet X. Because with every hand you have a 50% chance of being right or wrong. Also; anybody doing well playing Baccarat or any other game for that matter does not take to the internet to share, sell his secrets. Any person winning on a consistent basis becomes very self-centred, you enjoy the fruits of your labour and you don't tolerate fools inside or out of any casino. You don't take to message boards looking to hawk your system and all the issues that will bring. Please pull the other one.
Quote from: esoito on October 09, 2014, 12:55:35 AM
@RW: And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.
[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]
You should tell that to the innocent Brits that ended up in Guantanamo bay, or even Barry George. I thought things were clearly obvious when three new members signed up to comment on the same thread (two only hours apart). Maybe I've been around longer than you, anybody on internet forums for longer than five minutes have all witnessed these games played out many times in the past.
Math is great like that. Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work. You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore, your claim is false. The details don't matter.
Quote from: Albalaha on October 15, 2014, 07:49:17 AM
Every new member talking too loud, assertive, suggestive, promoting or negating strange ideas makes me feel that it is an old cat in new hat.
I would say you are SPOT ON, 100% correct.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on October 15, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
You should tell that to the innocent Brits that ended up in Guantanamo bay, or even Barry George.
I always wondered why we had so many smileys in the editor here at betselection. They are there for a reason and i can use quite a few of them for this comment. :nod: :sing:[smiley]aes/angel.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/eat.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/lol.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/thinking.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/wink.png[/smiley][smiley]monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-001.gif[/smiley][smiley]monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-099.gif[/smiley]
And the best one of them all to use now. [smiley]afb/lol.gif[/smiley]
there is no graIL. I PLAYED like the other poster whos thread went away. 2nd line stuff, streaks, that's about it. i play how the board is. I don't force my way on what the shoe is doing.
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 09, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
Hi Joey.
I'm one of the members of Alvin. I joined his baccarat mentoring program only last May of this year.
Although, it took me three months to fully understood all the principles behind his Precision Baccarat Method, I got no regrets joining his program. The guy is indeed true to his claims. IMHO, he really was able to crack baccarat.
Here's the coverage of his program. It's enough to make you a better if not, the best baccarat player over that baccarat tables. The $540 investment is worth it. I got no regrets. If you wanted to further improve your baccarat skills, I highly recommend his program. :thumbsup:
Table of Contents
Acknowledgement
Preface: Be In Control of Your Financial Future
Rules of the Game
Day 1: The Beginning of Your Baccarat Journey
Day 2: The Importance of Charting
Day 3: The Win-Loss Adjusting Progression (WiLAP)
Day 4: The Winning Strategy - Bet Selections
Day 5: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Neutral Codes
Day 6: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Opposite-Repeat Codes
Day 7: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Overlapping Triplets
Day 8: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Grey Shaded Areas
Day 9: Money Managment - How To Build A Massive Bankroll
Day 10: Precision Baccarat: The Simple Point-Value Method
Day 11: Playing Baccarat For A Living
Day 12: Casino Countermeasures Against System-Players Like Us
Day 13: The Game Of Chance Versus Science
Day 14: What To Expect In The Beginning
Epilogue: See You In The Casinos
Btw, I started applying his system on live plays last month and so far, so very good! I'm loving it! :thumbsup:
Natural 9
I am a member too and what's stated is true.
I don't expect you trust me or anyone other because there are too many scammers outside to give credit. I must say that the method is not for everyone and needs a great learning effort, but it's rewarding. You need his mentoring service to fully understand its potential.
If someone is interested I'll be happy to give more infos in private.
Just play and win Baccarat the Phil Ivey way. He did not cheat.
Quote from: andrebac on October 15, 2014, 05:09:52 PM
I am a member too and what's stated is true.
I don't expect you trust me or anyone other because there are too many scammers outside to give credit. I must say that the method is not for everyone and needs a great learning effort, but it's rewarding. You need his mentoring service to fully understand its potential.
If someone is interested I'll be happy to give more infos in private.
Glad you mentioned there are too many scammers outside to give credit, so you know what things are like. the stunts that have been tried and pulled from very good con-men in the last decade that I've been around. At the same time you have been around on over boards a bit, so I will give you a little credit for that.
The thing is, WHY? Why go through all this bother and hassle, mentoring for few chips that he should be able to rake from any table? If he wants to give something back, then why not simply post what he does, does he really need our money, doesn't sound like it.
You either choose to post / share or you don't, nobody is forcing anybody. As soon as anybody starts requesting money, I smell a rat and am surprised it was tolerated to begin with. Successful players don't need nor go fishing for others players money FACT.
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on October 15, 2014, 10:07:30 PM
Glad you mentioned there are too many scammers outside to give credit, so you know what things are like. the stunts that have been tried and pulled from very good con-men in the last decade that I've been around. At the same time you have been around on over boards a bit, so I will give you a little credit for that.
The thing is, WHY? Why go through all this bother and hassle, mentoring for few chips that he should be able to rake from any table? If he wants to give something back, then why not simply post what he does, does he really need our money, doesn't sound like it.
You either choose to post / share or you don't, nobody is forcing anybody. As soon as anybody starts requesting money, I smell a rat and am surprised it was tolerated to begin with. Successful players don't need nor go fishing for others players money FACT.
couldnt have said it any better. 3 people come out of the woodwork to pump a system. for 500 bucks? get out of here. like you say, makes 0 sense.
BEWARE ! The Grifters are circling the wagon.
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