follow the colors RED or Black.
RED shows bet 1st and 3rd column
BLACK shows bet 1 st and second Column.
FLAT BET only.
For recreational purposes only Play at your own risk.
Original idea by SPIKE (ca012)
Makes sense.
Quote from: NathanDetroit on January 18, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
Original idea by SPIKE (ca012)
That's debatable. Mr. Cryptic has always been evasive when it comes to divulging secrets. He never bets more than 18 numbers per spin. I put him on to collision bets, from the table's layout, that make up his own sets of 18.
Interesting why he switched,
Quote from: NathanDetroit on January 18, 2016, 11:22:49 PM
Interesting why he switched,
I turned him on to collision betting. I showed him how to combine his expertise with my expertise. If this is new thinking, this selection method of his, then he has digressed into logical double dozen or double column bets. If so, that's interesting too.
Quote from: NathanDetroit on January 18, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
follow the colors RED or Black.
RED shows bet 1st and 3rd column
BLACK shows bet 1 st and second Column.
FLAT BET only.
For recreational purposes only Play at your own risk.
Original idea by SPIKE (ca012)
This makes little sense here is to always play the first column regardless of the color output.
It would be better to bet on the third column when red hit and the second column when black hit.
It is easier to manage and more economical.
Quote from: plolp on January 21, 2016, 09:36:21 AM
This makes little sense here is to always play the first column regardless of the color output.
It would be better to bet on the third column when red hit and the second column when black hit.
It is easier to manage and more economical.
Spike is a very crafty fellow. You might want to consider it as a clue into seeing randomness as a kind of information that tends to lead to more correct guesses than what you would get from just blind guessing. It still comes down to one thing though. You play what's coming at you, not what you wish was coming at you. It's a hint to play what's coming at you. You must remember this. Betting on trends to succeed was considered a fool's errand for a very long time by many that frequented these forums. Spike and I took a lot of heat. So we both learned to dish it out too. The hints are all there, on many forums for the past nine years. They were given in a way to put people on to what works. It was hoped that anyone trying hard enough would find their own interpretation of randomness. If they made that work then they would have enough sense to keep their secrets secret.
We will see about that. People are trying to figure out reading randomness now. They have worked at the senseless mechanical systems long enough to finally give up on them (Phase One). Not wanting to quit altogether, they are considering things like the collusion of limited progressions confined to favorable moments of trending windows of opportunity. (Phase Two) Next, they will consider pure flat betting only or two level flat betting like I prefer. (Phase Three) Once they accept flat betting then they will be ready to really depend on "reading the random" as Spike first put the idea forward many years ago.(Phase Four) Once they do that, they will begin to see that it all comes down the three states of effectiveness. (Phase Five) How can casinos defend themselves from players that can maneuver among the minefield of basic ups and downs of gambling? That should be the end of casinos except for one thing, basic human nature. A mind working against randomness can defeat it unless that mind is misdirected from its original task. That's what human nature and deliberate distraction or misdirection can do.
Have fun while you can. Because winning is fun. If too many people figure this out, then the casinos will adjust or go out of business. There are those that will not get the memo, as it where, and continue to play the mindless slots though. Perhaps human nature is the holy grail, and it only favors the casino. What percent of a house's edge is that I wonder.
Thank you Nathan Detroit for the timely publishing of this material. I have had a lot of fun this week applying this bet with some optional variations/ overlays as well. In its raw state, despite a lot of live spin testing strictly flat, I have not got into too much trouble and in fact have encountered some remarkable runs. Dealing with zero is an interesting further exploration but in the raw state was simply absorbed as a loss. With appropriate respect and timing this is great fun. Thanks.
XXVV,
Thanks ever so much for your comment. It is a good method to keep in ones tool box. Your market reports are a a must read for me.
Especially the advice never to sell into a falling market.
Thanks,
Nathan Detroit.
Thanks for sharing ND
What bankroll is needed and what is your taget profit?
Quote from: 777vic on January 22, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
Thanks for sharing ND
What bankroll is needed and what is your taget profit?
At $ 5 Min table $ 200.00 per session.( You always plan to win 2 out of 3 sessions.For 3 sessions bring $ 600.00.
Win goal 20 %. per session
Thanking you all for your interest in this subject If you have any further questions please PM.
Have a good day.
Nathan Detroit.
I think i played such systen a few years back. What i remember is that one could have nice runs with it but also bad streaks came along. I think i even played in an live casino. When i set down at the roulette machine i had 16 winning spins, one after they other.
Carlitos 8)
Quote from: Carlitos on January 22, 2016, 05:36:20 PM
I think i played such systen a few years back. What i remember is that one could have nice runs with it but also bad streaks came along. I think i even played in an live casino. When i set down at the roulette machine i had 16 winning spins, one after they other.
Carlitos 8)
Yep, double dozen or double column bets are great for runs.
BUT, having said that, losing a double D/C bet can clean you out so fast that you had better think fast.
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 21, 2016, 12:56:28 PM
Spike is a very crafty fellow... Perhaps human nature is the holy grail, and it only favors the casino. What percent of a house's edge is that I wonder.
Same old Gizmo. A 500 word post saying
nothing. It's an art form.
Hello Spike. Long time " no see". Any comments.
Are there any active gambling boards? They all
seem dead as hell.
Quote from: spike on February 04, 2016, 11:38:31 PM
Are there any active gambling boards? They all
seem dead as hell.
the problem is any long thread that has potential always turns into a pissing match so people stop posting
Quote from: RouletteGhost on February 05, 2016, 01:35:49 AM
the problem is any long thread that has potential always turns into a pissing match so people stop posting
True, no doubt. There are other reasons. Many of these topics get re-hashed over and over. The same old becomes tedious and uninteresting. Another reason may be that most people got their own ideas, methods and are more interested in playing/experimenting with their own stuff. Lots of people going their own way.
J
Welcome to those who are posting on this thread and other roulette threads. In recent times it appears much emphasis here has been Baccarat but it is no problem when principles such as short cycle analysis and trending pattern analysis are viewed by some experienced and clever players and theorists.
Congratulations to those who can refine/ define 'simple' techniques which really are subtle below the surface.
This thread has been good for that.
I want to make it clear long threads are not a problem in a well monitored and managed site like this. The role of experienced Moderators is invaluable and so often misunderstood. You will find most of the trolls have left here, never to return and they lurk now on other nearby sites waiting to negate any worthwhile subject. You know who they are.
So there is no need for competition, but just contribution. Sometimes I go quiet and that is because everything is cyclic but also because of current priorities, work and research. In this regard you need to have an open mind, so the CWB is one area of massive interest to me and colleagues - but how much can we, would we, or should we share.
We can talk in principles and in private communications I make good progress.
Under no illusions, this may take a further 9 months in my view, and even a year beyond that if necessary.
Nevertheless simple subtle ideas can still be so very useful, and just know below the surface there is a lot going on. I mix the roulette work with market analysis and pure financial investment also as I see practical sense in that to access 'free money', just as those with technology, ie the internet should research 'free energy'. Its all out there, or 'in there'.
OPTION: Instead of following the color chose ONE single dominant and stick with it.
Which means one either plays column 1 and 2 (Black) or column 1 ad 3 ( Red ) .
Play at your own risk.
Query, what's the best style to bet on one dozen only. And do you cats think you could avoid losing 14 in a row betting just one dozen, hey hey?
soxfan
Louis the lip and myself are puzzled by your reply. Us cats NEVER lose 14 times in a row. We tell the casino to shove it after 3 losses in a row. .
With first column and second column having 14 Blacks and 10 Reds not bad for a short term play.
Here's some advice that is not the same old gizmo, and it's not verbose as well.
Don't get married to a dozen and expect it not to sleep up to 30 times in a row with 8 to 16 times in a row being very common.
Divorce yourself from wishful thinking.
When the judge asked the hooker if such and such ever slept with her , she replied " No one ever sleeps with me . they are always wide awake".
Gizmo: Us cats play short term and nothing of the 2 can ever really sleep.
Alternating between Red and Black shall keep the columns awake.
I rest my case.