Agreed.

4L's look great so far
and just 5 unit buy in? that leaves space for many things me thinks
I will look into this also

Another test example using previous real results:

1a3a
1c1a W L
2c1b L L
1c2a  L L        TRIGGER
3c1a  L1 L1
3c1c  L1 W4       +1
3b2b  W L
1c3b  L L
2b1c  L L         TRIGGER
2c2b  W2 L         +3       
2c1c  L W
2c2c  W W
1c1b  W L
3a2b  L L
1c2b  L L         TRIGGER
1c1b  W2 L          +5
3c2b  L L
2b3a  L L          TRIGGER
2b2b W2 W          +7
2c2a  W L
1a3b  L L
1c1a  W L
3a1b  L L
1c2b  L L           TRIGGER
3a1a  L1 W2          +8
1c2a  L L
1a3a  L W
1a1b  W L
3a1a  L W
2b1a  L L
1c1b W L
1c1a  W L
1c1b  W L
2b3b  L L
1a3b  L L            TRIGGER
3a2c  L1 L1
2b2a  w2 L             +8

A.     

Quote from: atlantis on December 17, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
Hi JL,
I appreciate your input into this topic... Yes it *could* be good played the second way (horizontally; commencing bet prog after 4 L's as shown)
Atlantis.

Im going to test this over the coming weeks and report my stats here Atlantis. This has me feeling very positive. It looks very strong. I will post my results 50 games at a time. I think AMK will be happy to see the CODE 4 concept with new life.

I haven't played it for some time although it was still profitable. But not as much as I had hoped for. Lets see how this one goes. Good to see you making a contribution here Atlantis. It feels like the old days. Before things went sour you know where.

Nice work Atlantis. 

Quote from: atlantis on December 17, 2012, 07:25:12 PM
Another test example using previous real results:

1a3a
1c1a W L
2c1b L L
1c2a  L L        TRIGGER
3c1a  L1 L1
3c1c  L1 W4       +1
3b2b  W L
1c3b  L L
2b1c  L L         TRIGGER
2c2b  W2 L         +3       
2c1c  L W
2c2c  W W
1c1b  W L
3a2b  L L
1c2b  L L         TRIGGER
1c1b  W2 L          +5
3c2b  L L
2b3a  L L          TRIGGER
2b2b W2 W          +7
2c2a  W L
1a3b  L L
1c1a  W L
3a1b  L L
1c2b  L L           TRIGGER
3a1a  L1 W2          +8
1c2a  L L
1a3a  L W
1a1b  W L
3a1a  L W
2b1a  L L
1c1b W L
1c1a  W L
1c1b  W L
2b3b  L L
1a3b  L L            TRIGGER
3a2c  L1 L1
2b2a  w2 L             +8

A.     

flatbetting for a repeat of a row above this numbers end +21 (meaning after 1A3A bet 1 then A then 3 then A and so on)
go figure

Nice of you Soggett to test the Vertical version of Atlantis concept.

I always like the idea of having two bits from the same cherry.

Whether tracking both versions is practical,time will tell.

Hope Atlantis doesn't mind all this extra interest !!

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 17, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
Im going to test this over the coming weeks and report my stats here Atlantis.This has me feeling very positive. It looks very strong. I will post my results 50 ganes at a time.

Nice work Atlantis. 

Hi JohnL,
I will also play it as I have shown (the horizontal way after 4 L's)
With your vast previous experience playing your matrix and code 4 type systems, if anybody can discover the strength or weakness of this one or come up with any refinements or modifications it will certainly be you... I know that you would soon discover if it is worth pursuing or not... - I'm happy to see any session stats you care to provide and any new rules and game targets you think are best.

Regards,
A.

Quote from: dino246 on December 17, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Nice of you Soggett to test the Vertical version of Atlantis concept.

I always like the idea of having two bits from the same cherry.

Whether tracking both versions is practical,time will tell.

Hope Atlantis doesn't mind all this extra interest !!

Nah! Cherries are one of my favourite fruit.     
Soggett - thanks for your findings and feel free to post any further ones on the vertical concept - it's just I agree with JL that the horizontal way played after 4 L's seems could be more solid in the long term....
A.

Quote from: atlantis on December 17, 2012, 07:53:36 PM
Hi JohnL,
I will also play it as I have shown (the horizontal way after 4 L's)
With your vast previous experience playing your matrix and code 4 type systems, if anybody can discover the strength or weakness of this one or come up with any refinements or modifications it will certainly be you... I know that you would soon discover if it is worth pursuing or not... - I'm happy to see any session stats you care to provide and any new rules and game targets you think are best.

Regards,
A.

Great Atlantis, that 5 unit buy in as Soggett said is very appealing. And leaves space for all manner of MM options. I would like to see AMK get involved in this too if he cares to. it's a very inspiring and strong offering. I will enjoy testing.

And if the potential I see holds up. I will incorporate it into my challenges at a later stage. This is ALL good Atlantis thanks again.

Hello again Atlantis we have finally found you again, no pun intended : )

An honor to have you advance the CODE 4 concept further. I think we should give it some time before we agree what approaches seem to be the best, at least for me.

JL has taken the lead and I thank him for doing so.

Looking forward to following this thread!!

Sogget,


Could you explain a little more on how you are flat betting.


You are using atlantis's triggers but then flat bet the the last line to match the one above it (the last L L trigger line)??

Quote from: AMK on December 18, 2012, 11:58:05 AM
Sogget,


Could you explain a little more on how you are flat betting.


You are using atlantis's triggers but then flat bet the the last line to match the one above it (the last L L trigger line)??

I used the whole line
1A3A
here i would bet 1 then A then 3 then A so
1A3A
1C1A  this would be WLLW - 2, -1, -1, 2  ends 2+

this session worked, the first one posted goes to -35 so not very good i am afraid

I believe after initial testing combining HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL at the same time during the betting flow increases the hit-rate.

No waiting for Loss-Triggers etc.

Look again,as i have done and count up how many H+V D/C Match,there's just too many to ignore.

Often if you lose a Match on the H,you win it back on the V,plus a one unit profit.

Mild progression is required,so split each bet in half,50% on H,50% on V,etc.


Hope this all makes sense.

Dino.

So as not to mess up Atlantis's thread further,i will transfer the H+V concept to a new Topic/Thread.

To be Referenced as.........AHDV COMBINED ( Atlantis Horizontal Dino Vertical )

Hope this is ok with you Atlantis.

See you all "on the other side"

Cheers.
Dino.

Trying now betting only after FIVE consecutive L's.

This can occur with only 2 win/loss patterns. They are:

W L
L L
L L


L L
L L
L


I use same progression 1-1-1-2 then restart


1a3a
1c1a W L
2c1b L L
1c2a  L L         trigger     
3c1a  L1 L1         
3c1c  L1 W4       +1
3b2b  W L
1c3b  L L
2b1c  L L          trigger 
2c2b  W2 L         +3       
2c1c  L W
2c2c  W W
1c1b  W L
3a2b  L L
1c2b  L L           trigger   
1c1b  W2 L         +5     
3c2b  L L
2b3a  L L           trigger     
2b2b W2 W         +7       
2c2a  W L
1a3b  L L
1c1a  W L
3a1b  L L
1c2b  L L            trigger       
3a1a  L1 W2          +8         
1c2a  L L
1a3a  L W
1a1b  W L
3a1a  L W
2b1a  L L
1c1b W L
1c1a  W L
1c1b  W L
2b3b  L L
1a3b  L L             trigger           
3a2c  L1 L1           
2b2a  w2 L             +8


Hopefully this will make stronger/safer and more profitable 

A.