Nice work Atlantis....

I'm still back-testing an H+V version,which is turning out to be of a complex nature !!

This is all very enjoyable....thank you.

Dino.

Quote from: dino246 on December 19, 2012, 04:20:34 PM
Nice work Atlantis....

I'm still back-testing an H+V version,which is turning out to be of a complex nature !!

This is all very enjoyable....thank you.

Dino.

Hi Dino. Yes it is interesting alright!
Here are your previous unfavourable results which resulted in -5 now played with the 5L's mod:

3C  2A  L L     
1A  1C  W L       
1A  3B  L L     
3B  2A  L  L       trigger
2C  3A  L1  L1       
3B  2C  L1 L2         
2A  2A   W2 W       -3
OC  1B
3A  2A   L W
2A  1B   L L       
3A  10    L L       
30  3C
3B  3A   W  L       
3C  2A   L L       
3A  1C   L L          trigger
3C  3C   W2 W        -1
1B  3B   L W
3B  2C   L L         
1A  2B   L L       
1B  1B   W W       
2A  2B   W L
2C  1C   L W
3C  1C   L W
1A  2A    L W
2C  3A   L L         
3C  1C   L W     
1A  2A    L W
2B  1A    L L         
3C  1A    L L     
2B  2C   W L         
1A  1A   W W
1A  1B  W L
2C  1A  L L           
3B  2C  L L           trigger 
3C  1A   L1 L1           
3A  2A    L1 W4       +0
1B  2C  L L           
3B  2C  L L         
0B  2B
1C  3A  L L1         trigger 
3A  3A   W2 W        +1
1C  2B  L L           
2C  3C  L W       
1A  2A   L W
1A  2A   L W
2B  1C   L L           
1B  2C   L L       
3A  3A    W W               
3C  1C   L W
1A  3C   L L           
3A  3C   W L         
3C  1B   L L           
3B  2A   L L           trigger
3B  2B   L1 W2        +2
3B  3B   W W
+2

There were 5 betting opportunities and the result was now  +2
but maybe could improve the progression to 8-step??
1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11 = 31u at risk
That would give a better +6 profit on the above session....  



3C  2A  L L     
1A  1C  W L       
1A  3B  L L     
3B  2A  L  L       trigger
2C  3A  L1  L1       
3B  2C  L1 L2         
2A  2A   W6 W       +1
OC  1B
3A  2A   L W
2A  1B   L L       
3A  10    L L       
30  3C
3B  3A   W2  L       
3C  2A   L L       
3A  1C   L L          trigger
3C  3C   W2 W        +3
1B  3B   L W
3B  2C   L L         
1A  2B   L L       
1B  1B   W W       
2A  2B   W L
2C  1C   L W
3C  1C   L W
1A  2A    L W
2C  3A   L L         
3C  1C   L W     
1A  2A    L W
2B  1A    L L         
3C  1A    L L     
2B  2C   W L         
1A  1A   W W
1A  1B  W L
2C  1A  L L           
3B  2C  L L           trigger 
3C  1A   L1 L1           
3A  2A    L1 W4       +4
1B  2C  L L           
3B  2C  L L         
0B  2B
1C  3A  L L1         trigger 
3A  3A   W2 W        +5
1C  2B  L L           
2C  3C  L W       
1A  2A   L W
1A  2A   L W
2B  1C   L L           
1B  2C   L L       
3A  3A    W W               
3C  1C   L W
1A  3C   L L           
3A  3C   W L         
3C  1B   L L           
3B  2A   L L           trigger
3B  2B   L1 W2        +6
3B  3B   W W

A.

I'm sure this is all getting somewhere,as a 1D/C Match concept is one hellva challange !!

Interesting after LL,how many D/C match together on the Diagonal same as the Vertical.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 *HORIZONTAL*

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 50

TOTAL GAMES WON 46

TOTAL GAMES LOST 4

STRIKERATE 11.5/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO.

BALANCE=59 UNITS PLUS.

Okay I am loving this method Atlantis, its EXCELLENT. But im staking differently to how you suggested. I wait for the DOUBLE TRIGGER. Then play up to 4 bets on the following two lines. Using the progression I used to use for THE ZONE.
1,1,2,3=7 UNITS RISK.

So for example

1A2B
1C3A----DOUBLE LOSS TRIGGER
3B1C LL
2A1A LW= PLUS 2 UNITS.

And I've only lost 4 games doing this H.A.R of course out of 50 played. I think You have something a bit special here Atlantis. Its early days yet. But it feels very natural and is looking strong. When you consider, it could profit with a strikerate of 5/1, Its got my attention. Next update at 100 games. 

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 19, 2012, 05:35:28 PM
RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 *HORIZONTAL*

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 50

TOTAL GAMES WON 46

TOTAL GAMES LOST 4

STRIKERATE 11.5/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO.

BALANCE=59 UNITS PLUS.

Okay I am loving this method Atlantis, its EXCELLENT. But im staking differently to how you suggested. I wait for the DOUBLE TRIGGER. Then play up to 4 bets on the following two lines. Using the progression I used to use for THE ZONE.
1,1,2,3=7 UNITS RISK.

So for example

1A2B
1C3A----DOUBLE LOSS TRIGGER
3B1C LL
2A1A LW= PLUS 2 UNITS.

And I've only lost 4 games doing this H.A.R of course out of 50 played. I think You have something a bit special here Atlantis. Its early days yet. But it feels very natural and is looking strong. When you consider, it could profit with a strikerate of 5/1, Its got my attention. Next update at 100 games. 

Wow, JL - you've been busy! These truly are good results from H.A.R. and only using the DOUBLE TRIGGER too!
I've had little time to do much roulette today; except to chip in with my suggested 5LOSS TRIGGER as I honestly think it will be safer and reduce losses but it means more patience and waiting of course (like FIVE and 8on1)... I do like the 7 unit progression 1-1-2-3 you are using.

Out of interest JL,any zero in those 4 loses ?

Quote from: atlantis on December 19, 2012, 06:30:29 PM
Wow, JL - you've been busy! These truly are good results from H.A.R. and only using the DOUBLE TRIGGER too!
I've had little time to do much roulette today; except to chip in with my suggested 5LOSS TRIGGER as I honestly think it will be safer and reduce losses but it means more patience and waiting of course (like FIVE and 8on1)... I do like the 7 unit progression 1-1-2-3 you are using.

When I believe in something Atlantis, I go for it. This I believe in. I think the overall strikerate will be at least 7/1.

Which means PROFIT. I always say there's nothing wrong with a progression so long as its justified. Here I see that. On the four losses I had.

3 of them won by the potential 5th or 6th bet.

there's alot of potential here Atlantis. 

Quote from: dino246 on December 19, 2012, 06:42:47 PM
Out of interest JL,any zero in those 4 loses ?

Yes Dino there was a ZERO in the second loss.

OK I played a fast session on BVNoZero using the 5-L trigger.

172 spins.   Total profit = +6

Only 4 games qualified.
2 games won on 1st bet        +4
2 games won on 2nd bet       +2

There was a point in the session where I waited 104 spins before a 5L trigger event happened to signal the next (and last) game I played. At that stage I was +4 up. However on BV the whole session only lasted a perfectly acceptable 18mins.
So maybe it can work well on reliable r.n.g. using fastspin to speed up qualifiers...

A.

Quote from: atlantis on December 19, 2012, 07:38:01 PM
OK I played a fast session on BVNoZero using the 5-L trigger.

172 spins.   Total profit = +6

Only 4 games qualified.
2 games won on 1st bet        +4
2 games won on 2nd bet       +2

There was a point in the session where I waited 104 spins before a 5L trigger event happened to signal the next (and last) game I played. At that stage I was +4 up. However on BV the whole session only lasted a perfectly acceptable 18mins.
So maybe it can work well on reliable r.n.g. using fastspin to speed up qualifiers...

A.

The longest I've had to wait for a game with the double trigger is 72 spins Atlantis. The shortest, and shortest possible 8. Most are somewhere between 20--40 spins.

Hi,

Had time to do another test of 176 spins using the 5-LOSS TRIGGER
This time on dublinbet table 1 actuals:

Only 4 games qualified.

Profit +6

2 won on 1st bet
2 won on 2nd bet

I'm going to continue with the 5-L's TRIGGER testing even though JL is using a DOUBLE TRIGGER that seems working well.
Example of 5-LOSS TRIGGER

1C2B   L L
1C3B   L L
3B1C   L L1  -    Trigger and first bet (lost)
2A2A  W2 W       = +1  (2nd bet win)

Regards,
A.

Quote from: atlantis on December 20, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
Hi,

Had time to do another test of 176 spins using the 5-LOSS TRIGGER
This time on dublinbet table 1 actuals:

Only 4 games qualified.

Profit +6

2 won on 1st bet
2 won on 2nd bet

I'm going to continue with the 5-L's TRIGGER testing even though JL is using a DOUBLE TRIGGER that seems working well.
Example of 5-LOSS TRIGGER

1C2B   L L
1C3B   L L
3B1C   L L1  -    Trigger and first bet (lost)
2A2A  W2 W       = +1  (2nd bet win)

Regards,
A.

Atlantis its going steady with the double trigger. I will update on Saturday or Sunday. I think youve hit on one great single dozen method. I like how steady this is flowing. Once I have a 1,000  games in the bag I will know if this is as strong as I suspect.

Great work Atlantis, your best offering ever in my opinion.

Hi John,
Great to hear that still going OK.

JL, here I show how you can get more triggers (although I am playing using 5-L trigger  and prog: 1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11 = 31u at risk)
You can do it by using code 4 notation AND ALSO reverse code 4 notation matrixes for each number spun to get more bet opportunities on the cols/doz

1C2B L L                                            B2C1  L L
1C2A  L L                                           B3B3  W W
1C1A  W L                                          C2BA  L L
1B1C  W L                                          B2C3  L L
1B3A  L L                                           C1A2  L L1  - TRIGGER
2A1A  L W                                          A1B2  L1 L1
1A1A  W W                                         C1C1  W4 W  -  +1  (4TH STEP)
3C1A  L L                                           B2B1  W L
2B2B  W W                                        C1C2  W L
1C2C  L W                                          B2C2  L W
2C3C  L W                                          B2B1  W L
1A1C  W L                                          C3C3  W W
2B3C  L L                                           B1C1  L W
2A1C  L L  - TRIGGER                          C3A1   L L
1C2C  L1 W2  - +1 (2ND STEP)            B2C2   L W
3A1C  L L                                           C1C1   W W
2B3C  L L                                           A1A3   W L
3C2B  L L1 - TRIGGER                         C1C1   W W
1A2A   L1 W2    +0 (3RD STEP)           B2B2   W W
2B2C  W L                                          B2B1    W L
2C1A  L L                                           A2C1    L L
3C1C  L W                                          C1B2    L L  - TRIGGER
2C2C  W W                                        A2A2    W2 W    +2  (1ST STEP)
3A2C  L L                                           A2C3    L L
3A2B  L L                                           C2B2    L W
1A3B  L L1 - TRIGGER                         B2A1    L L
3A1A  L1 W2    +0 (3RD STEP)            B2B2    W W
1C1C  W W                                        A3B1    L L
3A2A  L W                                          B3C2   L L
1A2B  L L                                           C3A2   L L1  - TRIGGER
2C2C  W W                                        B2B3   W2 L      +1  (2ND STEP)
3A1C  L L                                           A1C1    L W
1B3C  L L                                           B1A1   L W
2B2A  W L                                          C3B2   L L
3A1B  L L                                           A3B1    L L

140 spins. +5

A.

Today's test of CODE 4 HORIZONTAL (with trigger 5-L's)

3 b 1 c   L L
1 a 1 b   W L
1 a 2 b   L L
1 c 3 a   L L         trigger
2 c 3 c   L1 W2     +1
1 a 2 a   L W
1 a 2 a   L W
3 b 2 a   L L
2 c 1 b   L L         trigger
1 a 2 a   L W2      +3
3 a 2 a   L W
2 b 2 b   W W
2 a 1 b   L L
3 c 3 c   W W
2 a 3 a   L W
2 a 3 b   L L
1 c 2 b   L L
3 a 3 a   W W
2 a 2 b   W L
1 a 1 b   W L
2 c 2 b   W L
3 c 3 c   W W
2 a 1 c   L L
1 a 3 c   L L
1 a 3 b   L L1       trigger
1 c 2 b   L1 L1
3 a 3 a   W4 W     +4
1 b 3 a   L L
1 b 1 c   W L
1 c 1 c   W W
1 a 1 b   W L
3 a 3 b   W L
3 b 2 b   L W
2 c 1 a   L L
2 c 3 c   L W
2 c 3 a   L L
1 a 2 b   L L
3 c 2 a   L L1        trigger
3 c 2 b   L1 L1
2 b 2 b   W4 W       +5
1 a 1 a   W W
2 b 1 a   L L
2 b 1 c   L L
1 b 3 b   L W2      trigger +7
3 b 3 a   W L
3 c 3 b   W L
2 b 3 c   L L
3 b 1 b   L W
1 a 1 b   W L
1 c 3 b   L L
1 c 1 c   W W
1 a 1 a   W W
3 b 1 c   L L
3 a 2 a   L W
3 a 1 b   L L
1 a 1 b   W L
3 a 1 c   L L
1 a 3 a   L W
1 a 2 c   L L
3 c 2 b   L L
1 c 2 b   L L1          trigger
2 b 1 c   L1 L1
1 b 1 a   W4 L           +8
2 c 2 b   W L
3 a 3 a   W W
3 a 3 a   W W
3 a 3 c   W L
2 b 2 c   W L
3 a 3 b   W L
1 a 1 b   W L
2 c 3 c   L W
2 a 2 b   W L
1 c 2 a   L L
1 b 3 c   L L             trigger
2 a 1 a   L1 W2          +9
2 b 1 c   L L
3 b 2 b   L W
2 b 1 a   L L
2 c 3 b   L L
2 a 3 b   L L1           trigger
2 b 2 b   W2 W         +10
1 c 2 c   L W
1 b 3 a   L L
3 a 2 b   L L
1 c 2 a   L L1           trigger
3 a 3 a   W2 W          +11
1 b 1 a   W L
3 c 3 b   W L
1 c 1 a   W L
2 b 3 b   L W
3 b 2 a   L L
3 a 3 a   W W
2 b 3 b   L W
2 c 3 c   L W
3 c 1 b   L L
2 a 3 c   L L
1 c 2 c   L W2       trigger +13
2 a 2 b   W L
2 b 1 c   L L
2 a 3 a   L W

400 spins.   +13u profit

More profit could have been achieved using the reverse code 4 notation in tandem with standard code 4 matrix as in previous post...

So that's 24 games played so far with the 5-L mod.

24 won - 0 lost     Profit: +30u     Highest progression reached so far: Step 4

A.

Quote from: atlantis on December 21, 2012, 04:35:40 PM
Today's test of CODE 4 HORIZONTAL (with trigger 5-L's)

3 b 1 c   L L
1 a 1 b   W L
1 a 2 b   L L
1 c 3 a   L L         trigger
2 c 3 c   L1 W2     +1
1 a 2 a   L W
1 a 2 a   L W
3 b 2 a   L L
2 c 1 b   L L         trigger
1 a 2 a   L W2      +3
3 a 2 a   L W
2 b 2 b   W W
2 a 1 b   L L
3 c 3 c   W W
2 a 3 a   L W
2 a 3 b   L L
1 c 2 b   L L
3 a 3 a   W W
2 a 2 b   W L
1 a 1 b   W L
2 c 2 b   W L
3 c 3 c   W W
2 a 1 c   L L
1 a 3 c   L L
1 a 3 b   L L1       trigger
1 c 2 b   L1 L1
3 a 3 a   W4 W     +4
1 b 3 a   L L
1 b 1 c   W L
1 c 1 c   W W
1 a 1 b   W L
3 a 3 b   W L
3 b 2 b   L W
2 c 1 a   L L
2 c 3 c   L W
2 c 3 a   L L
1 a 2 b   L L
3 c 2 a   L L1        trigger
3 c 2 b   L1 L1
2 b 2 b   W4 W       +5
1 a 1 a   W W
2 b 1 a   L L
2 b 1 c   L L
1 b 3 b   L W2      trigger +7
3 b 3 a   W L
3 c 3 b   W L
2 b 3 c   L L
3 b 1 b   L W
1 a 1 b   W L
1 c 3 b   L L
1 c 1 c   W W
1 a 1 a   W W
3 b 1 c   L L
3 a 2 a   L W
3 a 1 b   L L
1 a 1 b   W L
3 a 1 c   L L
1 a 3 a   L W
1 a 2 c   L L
3 c 2 b   L L
1 c 2 b   L L1          trigger
2 b 1 c   L1 L1
1 b 1 a   W4 L           +8
2 c 2 b   W L
3 a 3 a   W W
3 a 3 a   W W
3 a 3 c   W L
2 b 2 c   W L
3 a 3 b   W L
1 a 1 b   W L
2 c 3 c   L W
2 a 2 b   W L
1 c 2 a   L L
1 b 3 c   L L             trigger
2 a 1 a   L1 W2          +9
2 b 1 c   L L
3 b 2 b   L W
2 b 1 a   L L
2 c 3 b   L L
2 a 3 b   L L1           trigger
2 b 2 b   W2 W         +10
1 c 2 c   L W
1 b 3 a   L L
3 a 2 b   L L
1 c 2 a   L L1           trigger
3 a 3 a   W2 W          +11
1 b 1 a   W L
3 c 3 b   W L
1 c 1 a   W L
2 b 3 b   L W
3 b 2 a   L L
3 a 3 a   W W
2 b 3 b   L W
2 c 3 c   L W
3 c 1 b   L L
2 a 3 c   L L
1 c 2 c   L W2       trigger +13
2 a 2 b   W L
2 b 1 c   L L
2 a 3 a   L W

400 spins.   +13u profit

More profit could have been achieved using the reverse code 4 notation in tandem with standard code 4 matrix as in previous post...

So that's 24 games played so far with the 5-L mod.

24 won - 0 lost     Profit: +30u     Highest progression reached so far: Step 4

A.

Hi Atlantis, your five loss trigger may end up being the ultimate option for playing longer sessions. I've played 75 games now.

And the TOTAL longest wait for a win using your five loss trigger over those 75 games is five bets. Which means a progression of 1,1,2,3,5=12 Units risk.

Would have won all 75 of those bets. This method is fantastic. My next update will be tomorrow evening.