Quote from: Gizmotron on December 15, 2012, 03:32:36 PM
His average winning streak is posted, it's 7.1/1 . It's right in there with the 7.4/1 expected result.

Oh how did I miss that? Let me reword the question. Trebor what has been your longest winning streak. AND MOST COMMON winning streak before loss?. Not your OVERALL average.

So for example how many times did you win say 3 games before you lost and so forth?

Quote from: Trebor on December 15, 2012, 12:38:09 PM
Still plodding away.

Results as of 15/12/12.

Total games played           284

Total games won               249

Total games lost                 35

Double losses                      2

Strike rate                          7.1/1


Trebor

How many games a day are you playing

RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER FOR JL CHALLENGE FOR 16/12/12

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 85

TOTAL GAMES WON 79

TOTAL GAMES LOST 6

STRIKERATE 13.16/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 28--HIGH LOW

CURRENT WINNING STREAK 24--HIGH LOW

Since reverting back to my original way of playing PB. And only playing HIGH LOW. I have achieved something I haven't done in over 18 months, since I started playing both HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN.

And that is have two back to back winning streaks over 20 games. This has taken my strikerate up to over 13/1. Again a place I haven't been in the same period of time. This appears to be the strongest way to play the method. The sacrifice of time pays off in increased strikerate. Which saves time in the longrun on recouping losses.

@JL

Can't see how that info will alter reality but I'll go through the figures. I will say this, using progression I was reasonably up until the two double losses. Well that's progressions for you.

@ Subby.

I'm not doing a regular 1, 2 or 3 a day, just as and when.
Started beginning of November so averaging about 6 a day. That's two sessions playing all three EC's.

However I am playing hit and run. It looks to me like you're wanting to blame me for my poor results. As JL responded to me once I can only post the results I'm getting.

Trebor

Quote from: Trebor on December 16, 2012, 09:46:30 AM
@JL

Can't see how that info will alter reality but I'll go through the figures. I will say this, using progression I was reasonably up until the two double losses. Well that's progressions for you.

@ Subby.

I'm not doing a regular 1, 2 or 3 a day, just as and when.
Started beginning of November so averaging about 6 a day. That's two sessions playing all three EC's.

However I am playing hit and run. It looks to me like you're wanting to blame me for my poor results. As JL responded to me once I can only post the results I'm getting.

Trebor

Trebor, try dropping ODD EVEN and RED BLACK. And just play HIGH LOW as I am doing. I will be very surprised if your strikerate doesn't go up over the next 100 games. 

I started my test playing on BV single zero as you described at the time.

I'll play along and do as you say but don't change the rules again please.

Trebor

Quote from: Trebor on December 16, 2012, 09:59:56 AM
I started my test playing on BV single zero as you described at the time.

I'll play along and do as you say but don't change the rules again please.

Trebor

Trebor you should never be precious over how you play a method. That's a fatal mistake made by many. You go with the best way. I started out playing PB on just HIGH LOW. So that is the original way. And I now believe best way.

My results have improved already since dropping ODD EVEN. I never favoured playing RED BLACK. That was an experiment to see if I could get close to Pilots numbers. IT didn't WORK. If something isn't working you don't stay with it.

I know how I proofed this method since I started playing it. And I have never improved upon that. And that is playing just HIGH LOW. For ideally 5 games a day.
So I think you should have a go at the ORIGINAL way to play the method. Your strikerate should improve. Im also no longer on BV. Im playing 100% live now on PADDY POWER. So I know I am getting fair results. there's no doubt in my mind.

I think that Subby plays O/E as well and Mister Tarantino had the best strike rate on R/B. 

Quote from: Robeenhuut on December 16, 2012, 10:19:13 AM
I think that Subby plays O/E as well and Mister Tarantino had the best strike rate on R/B. 

Yes but neither of them have two winning streaks of at least 24 games back to back either Matt. Or a streak over 100.

I proofed PB on just HIGH LOW. My results since I brought in ODD EVEN haven't touched what I got in the beginning. So I am back to my original way. And already its improved my strikerate from being stuck at 10/1 for a long time to 13/1.

JL,

I'm testing (on paper) as I thought you were playing.

If every time I get poor results you turn round and say I need to change my methods there is no point me going on.

I'm not going to test on a live wheel in real time but this is what I propose to do.

Smartlive (autowheel) make available the last 185 numbers. I'll log on and play a session using only high and low once a day.
Please say if this is unsuitable in your opinion.

Trebor

Quote from: Trebor on December 16, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
JL,

I'm testing (on paper) as I thought you were playing.

If every time I get poor results you turn round and say I need to change my methods there is no point me going on.

I'm not going to test on a live wheel in real time but this is what I propose to do.

Smartlive (autowheel) make available the last 185 numbers. I'll log on and play a session using only high and low once a day.
Please say if this is unsuitable in your opinion.

Trebor

I don't know Smartlive. But if it's a real wheel it should be fine. You are not changing the method Trebor simply going with what my results show me is the strongest way to play it. All I want to see is if this improves things for you too.
I couldnt rise above 10/1 for a long time playing both HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. And going back to my original way. All of a sudden im 13/1.

You should see improvement from 7/1. The reason is you are not chopping between even chances going with the first one to qualifiy anymore. You are LOCKED into one E/C. And I know for a fact longer winning streaks will result from doing this.
You will still get your short streaks. But at some point you will lock in on a 20 plus streak. And it could go to stellar heights. Taking your strikerate above 7/1 for sure.


Chauncy47 is running at 13/1 playing HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. ON A REAL B&M double zero wheel. I couldnt match that on a single zero wheel. But playing HIGH LOW on its own I can. You go with what works BEST for you. ALWAYS.

It's a real wheel and I've not heard anyone question it although I've heard Smartlive haven't got an unblemished record regarding payouts etc.

I'll just do H & L as you suggest but since I was playing each EC in every session I don't see that makes it "chopping between even chances" .

Trebor

Quote from: Trebor on December 16, 2012, 12:56:44 PM
It's a real wheel and I've not heard anyone question it although I've heard Smartlive haven't got an unblemished record regarding payouts etc.

I'll just do H & L as you suggest but since I was playing each EC in every session I don't see that makes it "chopping between even chances" .

Trebor

Playing all 3 even chances didn't work for me Trebor. And its not working too good for you either. that's why I suggest the change.

You should see a longtern improvement.

Hi all you PB players....enjoying reading all the observations to IMPROVE this great concept.

Would advise only playing LIVE DEALER at Smart Live.

There is a nagging doubt regarding their Autowheel/Airball.

I've been using them on/off for 2 years now.

Preferance is given to Supercasino Live Dealer.

Hope this helps.
Dino.

Quote from: dino246 on December 16, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Hi all you PB players....enjoying reading all the observations to IMPROVE this great concept.

Would advise only playing LIVE DEALER at Smart Live.

There is a nagging doubt regarding their Autowheel/Airball.

I've been using them on/off for 2 years now.

Preferance is given to Supercasino Live Dealer.

Hope this helps.
Dino.

Thanks for the advice Dino, I use airball occasionally. But I've heard others voice opinions of doubt too.