Looks like I'll bow out of my testing, at least as far as posting any results goes.


If it doesn't work for me on Smartlive there is now a ready made reason for my failure there to.  I guess the always will be.


Over and out


Trebor

For what it's worth,the only way to find out the optimum strike-rate for PB playing H+R style,is to ONLY play one game per session per day in separate online LIVE-DEALER/B+M CASINOS.

I don't play this concept,but if i did,as i have two B+M casinos only a very short drive away,i would call-in....play just one game in each...EVERYDAY for a month.....NOW that would surely PROVE what the TRUE strike-rate is !!!!

Please continue with all your endeavours,whatever the Matrix-Vertical concept is.

Best Regards.

Dino.

Hello dino,


If I had a 10,000 BR not doubt I would just play 1 game per day but only after a loss. Until that time I have to get my BR to that size. The only way I can get there is to play a significant amount of games per day. Only have a 140 unit BR now : )

Hi AMK.....yes i agree.

Both a king or a pauper can achieve the same stats wth my suggestion.

It's that i have always agreed with JL and his view on H+R as i have played this way since 1993 using any system,except i called it HIT+MISS,before i found the Forums.

Wow, since 1993 dino.


Do you have any stats etc. you might remember over this period?


Could you talk a little more about how many games per day you played, methods, MM etc.




ps
Hope not to go off topic JL.

Quote from: AMK on December 17, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Only have a 140 unit BR now : )

That is your starting point. Play to Win or Break Even. Two out of three games. Flat bet you can stand a drawdown of 140 Losses more than Wins. Seems obvious.
It will last very long if you play for fun.
Double it in one month, set a target for yourself. 


Good Luck!

Quote from: AMK on December 17, 2012, 12:42:11 AM
Wow, since 1993 dino.


Do you have any stats etc. you might remember over this period?


Could you talk a little more about how many games per day you played, methods, MM etc.




ps
Hope not to go off topic JL.

No worries AMK its all good. Dino is right, in its purest form that's what we would do.

I got my alltime best results with PB playing just HIGH LOW for just 5 games a day.

20 years Hit and miss(HAM)? wow....Would you say you are up or down in general? The reason I'm asking is that 20 years of playing ham would be similar to a lifetimes worth of play for the rest of us lol....

Yes....Subby and AMK..."HAM".....style of play for me over the years has been a good PROFITABLE friend.

Only playing out-side bets NEVER numbers and covering Zero if staking 10-10 on D/C.

This is why i agree with JL and PB even though i don't play this concept.

Any concept using Vertical-Matrix for me has been a reverlation when bolted-on to the "old-fashioned" HAM Horizontal style of play.

Instinct,timing,discipline,patience,calmness AND placing ALL bets AFTER the croupier has spun the wheel all help to maintain the COMFORT-ZONE.

Many Thanks to all the guys with JL who first did the spade work on the Matrix Concept.


Dino.

After the ball is spun?

How much time do you have to place bets then? I take it you know exactly when and where to bet so that wehn the ball is dropped you can place fast so as to not miss a betting chance?

Yes...Subby,that's correct...as i only play out-side bets....plenty of time.

Quote from: dino246 on December 18, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
Yes...Subby,that's correct...as i only play out-side bets....plenty of time.

I wondered Dino, do you think there's an advantage to doing this? Its never bothered me personally.

But I've noticed many scrambling to get their bets on at the last moment.

I think casinos allow this as the adrenaline is going and when the ball starts to spin, the urge to place"just one more chip" takes over. Casinos know this. I read about it and the psycological (spelling) aspects of gambling and bet placing after the ball is spun.

Quote from: subby on December 19, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
I think casinos allow this as the adrenaline is going and when the ball starts to spin, the urge to place"just one more chip" takes over. Casinos know this. I read about it and the psycological (spelling) aspects of gambling and bet placing after the ball is spun.

Yes, im playing against random. And random doesn't know what time I placed my bet Lol!

It's fun to watch the people at Dublin---especially when the table is crowded.