Quote from: Trebor on November 11, 2012, 10:57:20 PM
I've no idea. I'll need to track it manually at the same time to see.

Trebor

I've answered a different question.

The tracker knows because I enter it manually. I don't know how it treats it when building up the, what are you calling it, matrix?

This is my concern Trebor, because I believe Zero is actually our friend with this method, it changes the course of

random in our favour.

The perfection of random is no longer so perfect when a zero drops. Remember the difference between winning and losing

can be as little as a single spin.

I know for certain I have cheated the laws of probability by playing H.A.R there is absolutely no doubt about that for me

Before 2004 when I played like all the losers play I couldnt buy a win. I really couldnt. I used to play 8 hour sessions at a

casino. And always lost in the end.

And I still track manually using pen and paper Trebor. YES I know its slow, BUT I don t miss a thing. And you cannot afford

to miss a thing, when the difference between winning and losing can be a SINGLE SPIN.

Like I said I'll check the tracker and see that it's correct or not.


Trebor.

Quote from: Trebor on November 12, 2012, 12:41:39 AM
Like I said I'll check the tracker and see that it's correct or not.


Trebor.

Okay Trebor stay positive 

My records playing "thepilot" way is as follows...

Playing H/L and R/B  ...
Won 40
Lost 1...
Winning streak 35.... current streak is 5...
I have been playing my progression like i said, 25...50...100... Total 175...
Winnings 40 x 25 = 1000      Loses 1 x 175 =175      Profit 1000 - 175 =  825
Only time will tell if it works this way... For me, the less games u play, the less chance you have of getting caught. I play only 4-6 games a day, depending on work and kids etc...
Question for JL....
1. What have you been doing when you have to bet on H/L or R/B at the same time, do u still bet... Or O/E in your case, have u ever had to bet on all 3 at the same time ?

Quote from: Tarantino on November 12, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
My records playing "thepilot" way is as follows...

Playing H/L and R/B  ...
Won 40
Lost 1...
Winning streak 35.... current streak is 5...
I have been playing my progression like i said, 25...50...100... Total 175...
Winnings 40 x 25 = 1000      Loses 1 x 175 =175      Profit 1000 - 175 =  825
Only time will tell if it works this way... For me, the less games u play, the less chance you have of getting caught. I play only 4-6 games a day, depending on work and kids etc...
Question for JL....
1. What have you been doing when you have to bet on H/L or R/B at the same time, do u still bet... Or O/E in your case, have u ever had to bet on all 3 at the same time ?

Out of interest...was your loss playing red black? I personally only play High/Low and Odd/Even...I don't play red black as I find it loses more than the others.

Hello again JL,


The MST tracker treats zero's as in the original instructions. That is if a 0 comes in a group of three it ignores all three as far as tracking goes. Has this rule been changed?


Trebor

Quote from: subby on November 12, 2012, 10:46:40 AM
Out of interest...was your loss playing red black? I personally only play High/Low and Odd/Even...I don't play red black as I find it loses more than the others.

My loss came on H/L... LLL lost for me... A lot of High numbers came, then a mixture of both, then 3 Lows... I had a gut feeling i would lose, but played ... Never mind
I trust H/L more than the others, i am thinking of doing O/E as well. But my mindset is , the more you play, the more you will lose !
So playing all 3 at the same time , for me , puts me off a little !

You're actually better off playing for both HIGH/LOW and the ODD/EVEN at the same time and whatever one give you the betting opportunity first then you take it and ignore the other chance if it appears while betting the first chance. Then log out when you have 1 win, i'll speed you up and as the ball is being spun the same amount of times anyway it makes sense to play both and get faster bet chances. Playing 1 of the two methods only, you'll still have the same amount of ball spins but half the chances to bet.

I'm talking about using ophis tracker where you can visually see the betting chances pop up on screen like so....



If you had only been tracking O/E you would have missed High/Low chance and you would still be looking for a bet chance to appear. Use the tracker and cover all PB methods to speed you up with same amount of balls spun.

Quote from: Tarantino on November 12, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
My records playing "thepilot" way is as follows...

Playing H/L and R/B  ...
Won 40
Lost 1...
Winning streak 35.... current streak is 5...
I have been playing my progression like i said, 25...50...100... Total 175...
Winnings 40 x 25 = 1000      Loses 1 x 175 =175      Profit 1000 - 175 =  825
Only time will tell if it works this way... For me, the less games u play, the less chance you have of getting caught. I play only 4-6 games a day, depending on work and kids etc...
Question for JL....
1. What have you been doing when you have to bet on H/L or R/B at the same time, do u still bet... Or O/E in your case, have u ever had to bet on all 3 at the same time ?

Nice results  !

Where you playing ? Live or RNG ?

Quote from: Twisteruk on November 12, 2012, 12:35:40 PM

Nice results  !

Where you playing ? Live or RNG ?

Hello Twister... All played on live dealer on ladbrokes and 888... Do you play RNG, and do u trust it ?

Quote from: Tarantino on November 12, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
My records playing "thepilot" way is as follows...

Playing H/L and R/B  ...
Won 40
Lost 1...
Winning streak 35.... current streak is 5...
I have been playing my progression like i said, 25...50...100... Total 175...
Winnings 40 x 25 = 1000      Loses 1 x 175 =175      Profit 1000 - 175 =  825
Only time will tell if it works this way... For me, the less games u play, the less chance you have of getting caught. I play only 4-6 games a day, depending on work and kids etc...
Question for JL....
1. What have you been doing when you have to bet on H/L or R/B at the same time, do u still bet... Or O/E in your case, have u ever had to bet on all 3 at the same time ?

Wow great results Tarantino, well its never happened to me. When I've had 2 I've gone with H/L. Because I normally don't play Red and black.

Quote from: Trebor on November 12, 2012, 11:12:34 AM
Hello again JL,


The MST tracker treats zero's as in the original instructions. That is if a 0 comes in a group of three it ignores all three as far as tracking goes. Has this rule been changed?


Trebor

Ignore the zero but keep the numbers either side of it. So keep all numbers reject zero.

 
It probably goes without saying but I will any way     I grab the first 20 numbers off the marque to start my game.

Quote from: shogun on November 12, 2012, 05:54:54 PM

It probably goes without saying but I will any way     I grab the first 20 numbers off the marque to start my game.

Snap Shogun that way you usually have 4 or 5 patterns instantly

Im finding that one of the three even chances always qualifies for a game within 40 spins.

Quote from: Tarantino on November 12, 2012, 12:40:21 PM

Hello Twister... All played on live dealer on ladbrokes and 888... Do you play RNG, and do u trust it ?

I play PB on Live Dealer at Paddypower

But JL is havin good results on BV so I will in the next few days start playin there. I won't play on the Zero wheel but the NZ Wheel
Trust it ? 100%? No. I don't think I ever will. I know it sounds like a contradiction but losin to a Real Wheel is Pure, imo. On RNG I always wonder. And yes that includes even when Im winning as the losses usually happen when you increase  your stake

Anyway I will give BVNZ  a good as its good for Turnover