Early days Samnl. 13 games is nothing. I've lost 5 times in 20. Its when you start hitting those 15 plus streaks. You see how things balance out. Not to mention MM. Look at how Subby is doing.

And he is using no money management. Play on...

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 28, 2012, 10:19:43 AM
Early days Samnl. 13 games is nothing. I've lost 5 times in 20. Its when you start hitting those 15 plus streaks. You see how things balance out. Not to mention MM. Look at how Subby is doing.

And he is using no money management. Play on...

I know JL and I will of course continue my test and let you all know my progress each day on here.

Hi JL ... just getting back after the Xmas Holiday's.  How is you game(s) coming along?   Look forward to catching up with the forum.  I was reading through some of the older posts this morning and one of yours mentions that some think we are one in the same person?  LOL ... I have had plenty of good laughs this holiday season but none quite as good as that one...so thank you for that!!! LOL 

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 28, 2012, 01:15:15 PM
Hi JL ... just getting back after the Xmas Holiday's.  How is you game(s) coming along?   Look forward to catching up with the forum.  I was reading through some of the older posts this morning and one of yours mentions that some think we are one in the same person?  LOL ... I have had plenty of good laughs this holiday season but none quite as good as that one...so thank you for that!!! LOL

Hi Chauncy, welcome back. Yes well its more to do with the other forum. They think you are me or my shill or something.

Nevermind, they have the shock of a lifetime on its way. 2013 is the year no forum that catches hold of what happens on this forum will ever forget. When the word spreads in the summertime. current online records will be blown out of the water.

that's way too funny!!  They can always fly over here and join me for the Rose Bowl as my team the Badgers are playing in it this year!  I'll also be cheering for Sam's Sooners in the Cotton Bowl.   Although I will NOT be betting on either as I like my chances being better with PB.   
I'll post my results for December and get you that tweaked version of PB I have been playing. I know I have mentioned this many times before, but discipline and good money management is critical to success in this game.  It takes discipline to set and follow a strict betting strategy and it takes even more discipline to play a method that seems boring (PB is one of those slower moving methods) and requires patience when your just dying to just make a bet, but the results are solid. 

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 28, 2012, 01:39:36 PM
that's way too funny!!  They can always fly over here and join me for the Rose Bowl as my team the Badgers are playing in it this year!  I'll also be cheering for Sam's Sooners in the Cotton Bowl.   Although I will NOT be betting on either as I like my chances being better with PB.   
I'll post my results for December and get you that tweaked version of PB I have been playing. I know I have mentioned this many times before, but discipline and good money management is critical to success in this game.  It takes discipline to set and follow a strict betting strategy and it takes even more discipline to play a method that seems boring (PB is one of those slower moving methods) and requires patience when your just dying to just make a bet, but the results are solid.

I've got some exciting  stuff in the pipeline Chauncy. And still want to see your latest idea for PB.

Yeah fly over, that would require some effort. And flight expense. After July it won't matter anymore.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER FOR 15/01/2013

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 6,500

TOTAL GAMES WON 5,931

TOTAL GAMES LOST 569

STRIKERATE 10.42/1

BALANCE=6,076 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES=9

Over the last 500 games the strikerate has come up since I have been playing only HIGH AND LOW. So for that sample I am running at around 12/1. But over the vast sample of 6,500 games im at 10.42/1

Double losses remain a seldom event. And the method remains a solid profit grinder. When the three tenets of success are in place. Next update at 7,000 games played. 

Looking good John. How many games a day are you playing?

Quote from: subby on January 17, 2013, 08:26:41 AM
Looking good John. How many games a day are you playing?

Depending on time 5---10. Longest winning streak is 41 games.

Nice, I'll be back in action properly again from end of next week in the Speramus project. Just haven't time due to work to be playing it as much as I can.

Quote from: subby on January 17, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
Nice, I'll be back in action properly again from end of next week in the Speramus project. Just haven't time due to work to be playing it as much as I can.

Yes get 2013 underway for real, and reach the next level.

Hello John,




Thanks for explaining the PB system. I like it 
However i notice something about the patterns and maybe it can be of use.


There are 8 patterns, 2 with totaly the same caracters, RRR AND BBB.
Then there are 2 patterns, with RBR and BRB.


Totaly 4.


And then there are 2 patterns with RBB and BRR but they remaining 2 patterns look symetric to these ones,  RRB and BBR, so it would be,




RBB and the symetric BBR


and


BRR and RRB.




Which would mean 50% of the 8 patterns could be related if you look at it this way.




Could this mean anything or be usefull in anyway to explore?






Carlitos 

Quote from: Carlitos on January 26, 2013, 07:32:17 AM
Hello John,




Thanks for explaining the PB system. I like it 
However i notice something about the patterns and maybe it can be of use.


There are 8 patterns, 2 with totaly the same caracters, RRR AND BBB.
Then there are 2 patterns, with RBR and BRB.


Totaly 4.


And then there are 2 patterns with RBB and BRR but they remaining 2 patterns look symetric to these ones,  RRB and BBR, so it would be,




RBB and the symetric BBR


and


BRR and RRB.




Which would mean 50% of the 8 patterns could be related if you look at it this way.




Could this mean anything or be usefull in anyway to explore?






Carlitos 

Nice observation Carlitos, the weak links in this method are the three of a kind paterns like LLL. Chauncy47 doesn't play them. And I can see his point.

More losing games are a result of ending up with one of these patterns as your bet. If randoms locked into a trend on a single even chance. And that happens to be your bet you will lose

The only way to find out is to put it to the test Carlitos. Scrutinize the behaviour and breakdown. Of just those 4 patterns. For several hundred games. And see if random is showing you a way in.

..... thanks for the comment 




Maybe an way of changing it, when 3 of an kind come because first must come 2 of an kind.... and this happens..... there are 2 of an kind of EC all the time happening and then it builds up....




Wouldn't you say that roulette in EC is just an cummulative game, it all adds in diference sizes?
Sometimes, 2 reds, then it goed into 3 highs, into 5 odds.... etc....






Carlitos 

I can tell what I told to Ignatus in some other forum

Well the thing is no matter what you do, no matter what pattern you create, no matter with which odds, no matter wheel or carpet based one thing will be for sure.

They will all be "exposed" to perfectly same possible deviations in random (for deviations in spheres of roulette of course), which is actualy biggest problem in roulette, not house edge as many think (you wouldn't give a thing for zeros striking if your max losing streak would be enough to overcome it with progression before touching table limits).

That is mathematical fact.

Problem with this approach as yours John is that thinking solving that variance is so simple and absurd.

Because that should be taken as biggest thing in your whole approach of hit and run, that way it works and you allegedly have such results as you claim, you are aware of that right?

So we can say that what you do is collide two randomness. Random in game and random in short entrance point of betting and you expect not to have results with all characteristics of randomness such as variance in this case. You think that way you have reduced it and avoided in quite wide arc. That is illogical and absurd, and most important it can be proven. All can be proved except your results you have.

The other problem with you and this approach is actualy in proving it (with right way as you say) it can't be proved in scientific simulations (as Bayes and few other did many times) although all conditions can be perfectly correct simulated and verified.
So your agenda here is funny. Especialy when consider so insanely steep MM you use 

Few days ago new member come here, and his first post was: "I played JL-s methods now I have to recover..."

You tried to prove your claims with Bayeses software and Superman-s account but you didn't proved anything, except many many incosistenties in your actualy play, opposite of that what you were saying you will do.

Please just don't tell me wait and you will see, all you do is buying your time here. How long through all your time on forums you are saying wait and I ll show you, you will sing another song then..  Nothing by now. You were saying about some conquering europe casinos last year, but you forgot about it.. It is more important to be here and persuading people that alchemy can be done.

Just don't tell me Chauncy or whoever plays like you is successful and understood "right way". AMK is nice and very honest guy to whom I spoke personaly few times, the one who created one method you are using, well he doesn't plays it nor having money out of roulette as you with this same genius approach. Guess why..

Cheers

Drazen