I test my own algorithm to catch correction.
1024 Spins from Random.org, pre-generated randomization 13/07/2016.
I test 12 groups of 18 vs 18 numbers using 3double-streets for each side.
The playing model is based on Cut Point Method
Test is flat-bet until +1 or -3
Judge for yourself and think if you remember getting this kind of LW registry based on any other bet selection.
I can make proof of the results.
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I read with interest your posts on roulette30
You use 3 STD for Trigger, I have problems with registery on that forum.
What kind of tracker you use? I read that it is in excel, but is open to public?
I would be very interested to hear more about this tracker.
Results are great.
If you have excel just pm your email and i will send it to you
14/07/2016 - 400 spins Random.org
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Day 16/07/2016
+11 units
largest bet 1unit =)
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Thanks Alberto!
How many spins needed for that?
1024
Quote from: albertojonas on July 16, 2016, 03:37:34 PM
1024
I don't understand the actual method. You are betting
3 double streets to make an EC bet?
How are you selecting the double streets please?
Thanks
What happens when you have LLL ?
And, yes, a more detailed explanation of the bet selection method would be helpful.
You have posted random.org numbers. Have you tested this method on a real wheel?
Quote from: albertojonas on July 14, 2016, 01:12:17 AM
14/07/2016 - 400 spins Random.org
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Can you explain more clearly what these bet selections are?
Quote from: mogul397 on July 17, 2016, 11:32:34 PM
I don't understand the actual method. You are betting
3 double streets to make an EC bet?
How are you selecting the double streets please?
Thanks
They select themselves by not showing more than "normal". 3 Vs 3.
The method is not openly explained. I opened the thread to show that Return to the mean exists and is exploitable.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on July 18, 2016, 01:01:17 AM
What happens when you have LLL ?
And, yes, a more detailed explanation of the bet selection method would be helpful.
when LLL if -3 units i take the loss if not i continue and try to get +1
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on July 18, 2016, 02:02:30 AM
You have posted random.org numbers. Have you tested this method on a real wheel?
The only difference is the presence of zero that should be couvered everytime you bet an even chance. use la partage rulle if availiable.
Quote from: albertojonas on July 18, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
They select themselves by not showing more than "normal". 3 Vs 3.
The method is not openly explained. I opened the thread to show that Return to the mean exists and is exploitable.
Then I miss the point.
I think I understand that you are betting, I guess, 3 double streets at once
creating an even prop. Is that correct?
You are betting waiting to either win 1 unit or lose 3 in a flat bet scenario.
So are you saying that you should be able to win more 1 unit bets than
lose the 3 and start over just using any random method?
Or is the bet selection important somehow?
I noticed you got more W than L just on the first outcome of each row, so why not stopping the betting after a L without looking for a +1 or -3 result?
Anyway jonas work is really brilliant, I start to think that roulette could be beaten.
as.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on July 18, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I noticed you got more W than L just on the first outcome of each row, so why not stopping the betting after a L without looking for a +1 or -3 result?
Anyway jonas work is really brilliant, I start to think that roulette could be beaten.
as.
we can not avoid fluctuation on the results.
does the bet selection matter at all in your theory Albertjonas?
I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC
i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5
wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit
Quote from: RouletteGhost on July 18, 2016, 10:07:02 PM
I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC
i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5
wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit
That is it in a nutshell. You made it sound so simple.
=)
Quote from: RouletteGhost on July 18, 2016, 10:07:02 PM
I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC
i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5
wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit
Flat betting and maybe with zero? Just with tons of Luck!
But if your choice is whichever 3DS, why don't you try with all of the probable 18 DS EC combination? You can save a lot of times. 6 table EC bets + 18 combinated DS EC bets = 24 EC combination with a ~100 pieces of 10000 spins tests are almost enough for the conclusion of the resistance of your actual RTM type of playing;
10000 (10k) spins with 24 EC combination = technically 240000 (240k) holistic spins per session,
~1% placed bets after the triggers per session,
2400 placed EC bets per session averagely,
100000 (100K) placed EC bets are almost enough to conclude, so
it needs near ~40 X 10000 spins tests, BUT repeating 2-3X, for safety's sake (to me). :)
This kind of 'marathon' tests will reveal the resistance or the weakness of the actual approaches - surely and forever.
(Like the attached pic of my 24EC bets tracker from the past - 24 EC bets in easy manageable and visible form in one screen, with the BV wheel.)
Regards
So what happens when you bet only one side non stop?
Quote from: albertojonas on July 19, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
So what happens when you bet only one side non stop?
I'm trying to see a correlation between these subjects and these people.
http://betselection.cc/even-chance-8/flat-bet-for-correction/
Equally confused. Feel like I could ask he same question of both.
Quote from: albertojonas on July 16, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
Day 16/07/2016
+11 units
largest bet 1unit =)
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I'm still intrigued by this, but would like to get you to explain it better. Maybe
you can explain one question at a time. So here is one question.
Question: You are sitting at a wheel ready to bet. How do you determine your
next bet? Say you are betting red/black. What is your next bet.
Almost seems silly to have to ask.
i am sorry. How could i write this post without revealing what is all about... ???
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so here you have a string of red and black results, (they are real).
if you observe singles Vs series you will find an imbalace.
there are many more singles than series in a window of 20 events.
this singles run stops with the presence of a series.
after it stops it might continue.
or another series will follow and it starts correction.
at this precise point you have a tendency for correction to manifest itself.
so in a window of the same size of events you can expect (gamble) that more series will start to show up.
In my experience, more often than not they really do.
There is one negative aspect of this type of strategy. It takes a long time to find a perfect window. this situation does happen once or twice per EC at every 1000 spins.
My workaround has been to measure more EC groups at the same time, like 6 streets vs 6 streets or kimo lee stars or any other grouping you fancy. You also can and should apply it to strings of losses and wins of pre-designated bets as ftl or obl etc...
There are many details to be explained. but this is it in a nutsheel.
i would be glad to answer any questions.
Cheers
let me add up that this is just one thing you can measure (Singles Vs Series).
There are many dimensions of the distribution you can measure.
Sputnik is the real person that has been teaching this in every forum, based on marigny de grilleau work.
So if you aggregate many dimensions with many EC, betting opportunities present themselves much more often.
It is really hard to code, and that i know off it has never been done before, despite the attempts.