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Flat Bet for correction

Started by albertojonas, July 13, 2016, 02:25:39 PM

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AsymBacGuy

I noticed you got more W than L just on the first outcome of each row, so why not stopping the betting after a L without looking for a +1 or -3 result?

Anyway jonas work is really brilliant, I start to think that roulette could be beaten.

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albertojonas

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on July 18, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I noticed you got more W than L just on the first outcome of each row, so why not stopping the betting after a L without looking for a +1 or -3 result?

Anyway jonas work is really brilliant, I start to think that roulette could be beaten.

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we can not avoid fluctuation on the results.

Tomla

does the bet selection matter at all in your theory Albertjonas?

RouletteGhost

I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC

i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5

wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

albertojonas

Quote from: RouletteGhost on July 18, 2016, 10:07:02 PM
I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC

i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5

wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit

That is it in a nutshell. You made it sound so simple.
=)

audiokinesis

Quote from: RouletteGhost on July 18, 2016, 10:07:02 PM
I have tried betting 3 DS as an EC

i like the idea of choosing a random 3, say 1 3 and 5

wait for the other 3 to be ahead, or these 3 to be ahead then bet the other 3 flat bet until it returns to mean and you profit
Flat betting and maybe with zero? Just with tons of Luck!   
But if your choice is whichever 3DS, why don't you try with all of the probable 18 DS EC combination? You can save a lot of times. 6 table EC bets + 18 combinated DS EC bets = 24 EC combination with a ~100 pieces of 10000 spins tests are almost enough for the conclusion of the resistance of your actual RTM type of playing;

10000 (10k) spins with 24 EC combination = technically 240000 (240k) holistic spins per session,
~1% placed bets after the triggers per session,
2400 placed EC bets per session averagely,
100000 (100K) placed EC bets are almost enough to conclude, so
it needs near ~40 X 10000 spins tests, BUT repeating 2-3X, for safety's sake (to me).  :)

This kind of 'marathon' tests will reveal the resistance or the weakness of the actual approaches - surely and forever.

(Like the attached pic of my 24EC bets tracker from the past - 24 EC bets in easy manageable and visible form in one screen, with the BV wheel.)
Regards

albertojonas

So what happens when you bet only one side non stop?

mogul397

Quote from: albertojonas on July 19, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
So what happens when you bet only one side non stop?
I'm trying to see a correlation between these subjects and these people.
http://betselection.cc/even-chance-8/flat-bet-for-correction/

Equally confused.  Feel like I could ask he same question of both.

mogul397

Quote from: albertojonas on July 16, 2016, 12:24:08 AM
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I'm still intrigued by this, but would like to get you to explain it better. Maybe
you can explain one question at a time. So here is one question.

Question:  You are sitting at a wheel ready to bet.  How do you determine your
next bet?  Say you are betting red/black.  What is your next bet.
Almost seems silly to have to ask.

albertojonas

i am sorry. How could i write this post without revealing what is all about... ???

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so here you have a string of red and black results, (they are real).
if you observe singles Vs series you will find an imbalace.
there are many more singles than series in a window of 20 events.
this singles run stops with the presence of a series.
after it stops it might continue.
or another series will follow and it starts correction.
at this precise point you have a tendency for correction to manifest itself.
so in a window of the same size of events you can expect (gamble) that more series will start to show up.
In my experience, more often than not they really do.

There is one negative aspect of this type of strategy. It takes a long time to find a perfect window. this situation does happen once or twice per EC at every 1000 spins.
My workaround has been to measure more EC groups at the same time, like 6 streets vs 6 streets or kimo lee stars or any other grouping you fancy. You also can and should apply it to strings of losses and wins of pre-designated bets as ftl or obl etc...

There are many details to be explained. but this is it in a nutsheel.
i would be glad to answer any questions.

Cheers

albertojonas

let me add up that this is just one thing you can measure (Singles Vs Series).
There are many dimensions of the distribution you can measure.
Sputnik is the real person that has been teaching this in every forum, based on marigny de grilleau work.

So if you aggregate many dimensions with many EC, betting opportunities present themselves much more often.

It is really hard to code, and that i know off it has never been done before, despite the attempts.