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Title: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Bayle on May 01, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
With this strategy,you can play as long as you want,and you could win 7 out of 10 times,
but, just like any business,it needs patience.
Sometime the wheel will not treat you as the way you expect,but I think 7 out of 10 is what we all looking for.

1.find a good,reliable penultimate of Even Chance bet ( HL/BR/OE )
   I mean no win no lose bet.

2.When you find the results, look at the results ,it will show exactly the line ( doublestreet )
  which is it belongs to.

3.You bet on that LINE 6 times, ALL FLAT BET, no need progression in this straegy,
  You will hit it 7 out of 10 times.
  You could bet with 1 or all 3 EC, but with all 3 EC, you must totally focus because it
   is a lot of works.
   If in case you lose ( the line you bet doesn't show up :-(  ) ,next bet you could decide to
   increase the bet money to recoup ,but do not use progression.
   It is too risky.
   Best wishes.Bayle F. Feller
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 01, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
There's a joke here.  I'm just too plain ol' unintelligent to see it.

OK, let's find it. 

On your mark......

Sam
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Bayle on May 01, 2013, 11:31:07 PM
You are what you think.
Very simple!
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: esoito on May 01, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
Bayle, a picture is worth 1000 words.

Please could you provide an example or two?

It always helps to prevent misunderstandings and uncertainties.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 02, 2013, 12:10:04 AM
There is no misunderstanding on my part.

A line pays 5 to 1.   Seven wins is $35.00.  The cost is $10 for a $25.00 profit.

So for every $10.00 I invest, I reap $25.00 in profits.

Yep, I'll buy that!!

Sam
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Bayle on May 02, 2013, 01:05:33 AM
Hi ESOITO,
To me, the game of roulette is not only the ball and the wheel plus the lay-out, but also display the evergoing flow of 3 cycle of HL/BR/OE.
By applying penultimate,we might be able to go with the flow harmony and perhaps reap some profit along the way.
I have tried to BEAT the game, but fail miserably everytimes, so if we can't fight them,,,should we not JOIN them? or another words is ...like I said ...go with the flow.

Using penultimate, let's say HL:                   19,20.22,1,24     24 is a result
and keep watching the wheel,let's say         13,14,15,27,21   21 is a another result

so, number 24 and 21 belongs to line 4.
We bet on line 4 for 6 times.
Some times, you will hit it right in the very first time
some times ,you may hit hit in 3,4,5.6th....
or it may go sleep for 18 times,or more...
some line go hibernate for 44 spins!!!
That's why if it does not hit in 6 spins,forget it,try the other EC.

and if the HL cycle does not perform, the other BR/OE will do.

Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: wannawin on May 02, 2013, 01:38:12 AM
Friend Sam: things go by themselves. If this is an attempt by someone to get unhealthy fun then praise to you for being the voice of reason.

If however there is something to be learned from Bayle messages then everyone will benefit.

I want to give the benefit of the doubt. but I can not forget your word. Many times the first impression is the right one itself. Hopefully Bayle really want to teach his concept about ​​how to win.

All of us will want to hear the constructive contribution that he could give.

Greetings.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 02, 2013, 02:01:15 AM
Quote from: Bayle on May 01, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
With this strategy,you can play as long as you want,and you could win 7 out of 10 times,
but, just like any business,it needs patience.
Sometime the wheel will not treat you as the way you expect,but I think 7 out of 10 is what we all looking for.

1.find a good,reliable penultimate of Even Chance bet ( HL/BR/OE )
   I mean no win no lose bet.

2.When you find the results, look at the results ,it will show exactly the line ( doublestreet )
  which is it belongs to.

3.You bet on that LINE 6 times, ALL FLAT BET, no need progression in this straegy,
  You will hit it 7 out of 10 times.
  You could bet with 1 or all 3 EC, but with all 3 EC, you must totally focus because it
   is a lot of works.
   If in case you lose ( the line you bet doesn't show up :-(  ) ,next bet you could decide to
   increase the bet money to recoup ,but do not use progression.
   It is too risky.
   Best wishes.Bayle F. Feller

Walter

He says we "could" win.  Note the first red...

Now look at the second red.  What the heck does that mean?  "a good, reliable penultimate of even chance"  What would make one penultimate bet more reliable than another??

In the third red, we learn we need no progression......

BUT WAIT...

In the last red we learn we could increase the bet but not to use a progression.   Um, what is a progression?  I thought it was increasing the bet.  Silly me!

Now stick with me for the next post...........
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 02, 2013, 02:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bayle on May 02, 2013, 01:05:33 AM
Hi ESOITO,
To me, the game of roulette is not only the ball and the wheel plus the lay-out, but also display the evergoing flow of 3 cycle of HL/BR/OE.
By applying penultimate,we might be able to go with the flow harmony and perhaps reap some profit along the way.
I have tried to BEAT the game, but fail miserably everytimes, so if we can't fight them,,,should we not JOIN them? or another words is ...like I said ...go with the flow.

Using penultimate, let's say HL:                   19,20.22,1,24     24 is a result
and keep watching the wheel,let's say         13,14,15,27,21   21 is a another result

so, number 24 and 21 belongs to line 4.
We bet on line 4 for 6 times.
Some times, you will hit it right in the very first time
some times ,you may hit hit in 3,4,5.6th....
or it may go sleep for 18 times,or more...
some line go hibernate for 44 spins!!!
That's why if it does not hit in 6 spins,forget it,try the other EC.

and if the HL cycle does not perform, the other BR/OE will do.

...........in this example 24 is the last spun.  1 is the penultimate.

In the next red, 21 is the last spun.  27 is the penultimate.

Friend Walter.........

I would learn from anyone.  I am currently running a bot which is a bastardized form of "Pattern Breaker".  Folks might be surprised how well it has worked.  ("has" is the operative word.)  JL may have a point:  Random can only go so far!

But this fellow whose name is "Feller"--well, this feller leaves me gasping for breath! 

Sorry, Feller.  Didn't mean to be an a*se!  Are you selling the key to this lock?

TwoCat
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Razor on May 02, 2013, 10:58:33 AM
Who told you that by betting the penultimate EC you have a bet is a " no win no lose bet"?
This bet is losing as all the other bet selections and it has been tested widely...

By betting the penultimate EC the pattern RR BB RR BB is killing the profits.And this pattern is not rare...it has the same rate as the RBRBR and the RRRRor BBBB.Runs and Changes.

The penulatimate EC betting was presented as a "no win no lose bet" by the scam Charleswin3million a long time ago and it seems that you know it because you are using his exact words "no lose no win bet" and "a bet withing a bet".
What you don t know is that everyone has tested this bet and it can NOT produce a stable ballance...instead of that it is losing.Ask Victor too...he has mentioned it a lot of times.

So the base of your method is mistaken.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: FLAT_IN_O on May 02, 2013, 11:33:52 AM
Sam old boy,/I feel younger when call you old...lol/


--Those days am visiting those pages mostly to read your comments.
  It refreshes my mornings.....and it's all safely saved in my computer.
  More then 7 years of that.....While being absent/guitar plying/even
  opened a  thread about 2CS,asking is anyone contacting you,but no
  unswers......I really thought at the time....well better no mentioning.




---BTW---Wasn't I right about playing few methods and switching from one
   to another.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Mr. Flat

Yes, you were right!  You have been right about many things.  I appreciate your kind words.

I promise I will get back to running the L v F on the bot.  Right now, BV has me scared of being cut off while deep into my bankroll.

Sam
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: D1 on May 02, 2013, 03:12:11 PM
Quote from: Razor on May 02, 2013, 10:58:33 AM
Who told you that by betting the penultimate EC you have a bet is a " no win no lose bet"?
This bet is losing as all the other bet selections and it has been tested widely...

By betting the penultimate EC the pattern RR BB RR BB is killing the profits.And this pattern is not rare...it has the same rate as the RBRBR and the RRRRor BBBB.Runs and Changes.

The penulatimate EC betting was presented as a "no win no lose bet" by the scam Charleswin3million a long time ago and it seems that you know it because you are using his exact words "no lose no win bet" and "a bet withing a bet".
What you don t know is that everyone has tested this bet and it can NOT produce a stable ballance...instead of that it is losing.Ask Victor too...he has mentioned it a lot of times.

So the base of your method is mistaken.

that's very True Razor
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: FLAT_IN_O on May 02, 2013, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Mr. Flat

Yes, you were right!  You have been right about many things.  I appreciate your kind words.

I promise I will get back to running the L v F on the bot.  Right now, BV has me scared of being cut off while deep into my bankroll.

Sam


---I also told you that,didn't I........DON'T BELIEVE ON LINE MAFIA....they are all same....and when I hear ppl.that they are
winning there/SM/.....they are just employies of casinos.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Carlitos on May 02, 2013, 04:35:09 PM
.... wasn't the Penultimate bet also part of the good ole CEH bet....... likewise the Patterrn Breaker bet..... ??






Carlitos  8)
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Bayle on May 03, 2013, 06:14:07 PM
 I have received several emails that sent to me ,some good,some not so good ,some leave their phone number for talking ,some asked what is EC means etc.....

In the sophisticate,complicate game such as Roulette,the answer sometimes is just a simple one,even a 10 years old can play it ,for example if you see black is showing 2,4,8,10,11...you can place 2 units on column 1 and column 2 ( the horizontal column on the layout ,not the dozens )
or if you see the red is showing 19,21,23,25...,you can bet on column 1 and column 3.
Then if you lose,you could dismiss the BASE ,that is column 1,and bet on column 2+3.
but then you need the dangerous progression to recoup,or you may run into the 0 or 00.

I think that is the most simple bet you can play and go home with some unitmoney in the pocket...if leave early.
Have you ever think why 0 and 00 is green,but not other color like blue or yellow or just white,they may signal to you green is GO or FORWARD ,keep betting....and GO,GO WHERE?
you've already knew it!

To Hans and Pitbull and Brazilplayer,I am gonna try to explain a simple way and you guys can test it for yourselves to see I am a fluke or not, you could use the actual of Weisbaden, Kimo Li,WilliamsHill, Betvoyer...... whatever you feel good about it.There are a bunch of them on the net.
To those who disagreed,it reminds me the first lyric of a Led Zeppelin song "Your time is gonna come"written and sung by Robert Plant,Goo-it-up to see how true and disturb it is.
If I were you,I would wait and see what this guy has before I cast the first stone.

Roulette as you all know is unmercy,vicious,brutal randomness up to a point of total chaos.
and there is a saying stated that there is a order in the chaos.....And you all know that too,right?
I think the orders of this game lying in the flow of any EC ,and run into interupption then run again,just like the water in a river flowing,flowing then runs into a big rock,cliff,or a curve and then keep flowing again.The HIGH 19.20,21,22.....36 can not keep on running forever(I saw it runs to 17 times at one time) but at some point ,it MUST run into a LOW number.THis could be an ORDER....simply because it MUST.
We now can take the results AFTER it change :
                  19,21,23,1,24
which is 24,
not 1 ( 1 is the bump,the rock,the interupt )
24 is the result.
WE then keeping watching the flow of ONLY High and Low to collect next result,we need at least 2 results as a trigger to bet.Let's say:
                   19,21,23,1,24,1,3,5,27,21...
1,3,5, Low is flowing      runs into 27 (high)
the result after that collision is 21.

We have now 24,and 21 .Both belongs to line 4.
We start bet on line 4 for ONLY 6 spins.
All flat bet,if you want to increase your betsize after 2,3 spins because the line 4 does not show up yet, you play risky.Very risky,and it may become a unnesscary habit.

The reason we use LINEBET (doublestreet) because it is the most reliable,well-balance on the layout,even Kimo Li when he tears the wheel and the layout apart, it still coming down to 6 GPM pies,and 6 parts of the layout,no one could do it better than Li.If you read his 2 books,you could stand at the table ,look at the layout and still know exactly where is the ball fall on the wheel.

Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 03, 2013, 06:47:52 PM
The thing to do would be to go on Dublin, make a movie and show us exactly how you can do this.  With all the money you have surely made, a few skins for screen capture software should not hurt you.  And many are available for free!!

I would be surprised if you would do this as making a video is proof of what you can and can't do. 

So you've talked your talk; let's see you walk your walk.

Could I get a second??  Anyone want to see this feller do his thing?

TwoCat
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: esoito on May 03, 2013, 10:47:47 PM
I'll second that excellent idea.  :thumbsup:

As it is, there are already far too many claims flying around on the forum without cold, hard substantiation to prove  -- or disprove.
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 03, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Thank you, esoito.

Well, I think we have a challenge. 

Sam
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: HansHuckebein on May 04, 2013, 07:02:24 AM
thanks bayle for taking the time to explain things.  :thumbsup:

cheers

hans
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Sputnik on May 04, 2013, 07:18:27 AM

I don't understand this topic.
What is he trying to say.

Cheers
Title: Re: A BET WITHIN A BET
Post by: Razor on May 04, 2013, 07:25:47 AM
Bayle no one wants to throw stones to you.
What we are saying is that the base of your bet has been tested before and it can t produce a stable or winning balance.

We are always welcoming new ideas here so if you have something new to present we are all ears