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Title: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 07, 2013, 12:38:01 AM
Does anyone have the time and the interest in testing this and reporting back to the forum?

http://www.online-casino-info.com/pattern-roulette-system/ (http://www.online-casino-info.com/pattern-roulette-system/)


It looks like it might be an intriguing twist to the Law of The Third, but a tester could confirm or correct that.

The cost is modest, and I would be very surprised if it turns out to be a scam.

Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 07, 2013, 01:49:52 AM
esoito

I heard you speaking directly to me!!

How many times have I said, "Certain numbers encourage other numbers to come."?  Voodoo!! 

Now comes this woman and testifies Ol' TwoCat is right.  I even agree with some of the numbers she called, especially the 29 and 35.  I once stated the 28 and 29 were interconnected somehow.

Will I spend $24 for this system?  Will a fat frog eat a bug?

I will report on the accuracy of the system but under no circumstances will I divulge the method.

Sam

EDIT:  Ordered!
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 07, 2013, 02:15:05 AM
Crikey -- that was quick!!  Good onya, Sam. 

I'm sure your report will make interesting reading.

And I was pleased to see your comment "..but under no circumstances will I divulge the method."

The lady will be also pleased by that because she does ask for purchasers to keep the method confidential.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Turner on October 07, 2013, 07:51:17 AM
"It plays the zero so there is no house edge"

So they pay you 36 units plus your bet back then???
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Drazen on October 07, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
As long as you have sheeps, you can't be missing the wool.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Sputnik on October 07, 2013, 01:25:54 PM

This is what i think.

Why would she sale a method that makes her money for 24$ ...
Sellers never learn, why would they need to sell there methods in any case scenario.

Just the idea of selling make it reverse.
You can not buy method for money that perform better then does you find for free.

My opinion.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 07, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Turner on October 07, 2013, 07:51:17 AM
"It plays the zero so there is no house edge"

So they pay you 36 units plus your bet back then???

Turner

I saw that too---before I ordered---and wondered... 

What she means is the zero is just another number in the 37 as it is played like all the others.

But I got the thing last night and looked it over.  Frankly there are so many rules--and she violates them in her testing--that I have little hope. 

On the other hand it is very similar to things I believe, so I'll give it a good run for my $24.00.

Sam
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Turner on October 07, 2013, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 07, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
Turner

I saw that too---before I ordered---and wondered... 

What she means is the zero is just another number in the 37 as it is played like all the others.

But I got the thing last night and looked it over.  Frankly there are so many rules--and she violates them in her testing--that I have little hope. 

On the other hand it is very similar to things I believe, so I'll give it a good run for my $24.00.

Sam
To write that playing the zero rids the HE in your literature when the HE is derived from not paying true odds worried me. Anyhow....she isn't selling to roulette experts is she....because they wouldn't buy it (as sputnik said) and as I consider you to be a roulette expert beyond reproach...I can't understand why you would entertain it.
Having said that....you will know for sure if it works or not....and $24 is neither here nor there....so good on ya.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 07, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
Turner

Thanks for those kind words.  I may very well be wasting my money, but that's not a problem.

As I've often said I feel certain numbers "encourage" others to appear.  So anything along that line interests me.

I am wading through her complicated rules and trying to figure out what she wants.  She says things like---in the last 12, 13, or 14 spins.....

I hate that!  Nail it down.  Is it 12, 13 or 14?

Anyway, I'll keep plodding along.

Sam
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: HansHuckebein on October 07, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
http://ezinearticles.com/?Zero-Roulette-System&id=6943659 (http://ezinearticles.com/?Zero-Roulette-System&id=6943659)

is this the one or at least one part of it?

cheers

hans
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 07, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
Yep, that's part of it.  Same person; different name.

Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: NathanDetroit on October 07, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
Systems of that type   should  cost no more than  99 cents  for a  package of 3.
.

ND.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 08, 2013, 11:28:49 PM
So what have we got, Sam?

A  YAD? (Yet Another Dud)

Or is it too early to tell yet?
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: ADulay on October 09, 2013, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: Sputnik on October 07, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
This is what i think.

You can not buy method for money that perform better then does you find for free.

My opinion.
Sputnik,

  I used to think like that too.   

  I was incorrect in my thinking and my logic.

  There are many more intelligent and experienced people "out there" that can always show me a thing or two, even if I have to (gasp!) pay for it.

  Again, just my own opinion.

  AD
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 09, 2013, 02:45:15 AM
Quote from: esoito on October 08, 2013, 11:28:49 PM
So what have we got, Sam?

A  YAD? (Yet Another Dud)

Or is it too early to tell yet?

esoito

I am going through around 500 spins to see if there is anything there.  The system bets six numbers at a time and I will determine if those six hit with any greater frequency than any other six.

They probably won't; it would surprise me if they did, but we'll see.

Sam
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Rouletta on October 09, 2013, 01:05:19 PM
Agree with u Sam; Based upon substantial testing and experience playing roulette when this sort of bet selection works
it's mainly coincidence ans that's it. In  the long run it always fails......; Best bet selection is ec's imho.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 09, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
If one could throw a large enough boulder in the ocean, he would shake every ship on the water.  It would seem that when I bought this system, I tossed a huge rock.  Who knows what the tsunami will awaken!
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 09, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
OK

Here is my take on the deal:  I would pass...............

This is a system that is so very complicated with rules that run like cats out of a bag--I can never tell exactly what I'm supposed to do.  We're always supposed to bet six numbers, but sometimes the chart only gives five.  Hmmmmmm

We have nine arrays or lines of numbers--but wait!  There are ten: 0 thru and including 9!

"Look back for two or three spins..."  Well, is it two or three?  Obfuscation....

The system is basically this:  If a just spun and b c d e f are in the last ten spins, you bet a b c d e f.  Letters are numbers.  There is a huge progression, which, if lost, would kill you for a month.

I asked her if I could hire Nick to bot it and she was not keen on that idea.

So, Ol' TwoCat blew $24 of his retirement stash.

Later, guys...

Sam
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Blood Angel on October 09, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
Thanks for taking the time and looking at it Sam  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 09, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
I appreciate that and you're welcome!
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 09, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
Well done for taking a look, Sam.

Either the lady is worried the bot will show how basically useless/risky her method is, or she's worried about Nick seeing the method without paying for it.

So the much vaunted number-patterns she banged on about were a bit of a furphy, were they?
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2013, 02:45:00 AM
I offered to pay her an additional $24 for Nick.

I really feel she just didn't want to have it tested.

She said a bot would remove the human factor.  Like "look at the last 12, 13 or 14..........."  When you say that and I look at 12, she can say I should have looked at 14.  Obfuscation...

Anyway, I like to explore new things so I'm happy..

Sam

Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 10, 2013, 06:19:47 AM
Sam...I've had a think...

If you've paid for the method and if Nick pays for the method then you can go ahead with Nick doing the bot.

As long as the bot remains just between the two of you then the woman's confidentiality requirement is NOT being violated.

And whether or not you choose to run your bot thereafter is none of her business.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2013, 09:15:38 AM
esoito

That is true, but in the short time I tested it, I hit the wall twice.  Even with a bot, it would take forever to get even--providing you didn't hit the wall again.

Sam
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: esoito on October 10, 2013, 09:43:18 AM
Ahhhhhh...OK

Sounds as though it's another dangerous (to the pocket) dud.

Very wise to call a halt.

Would you like me to paypal you half the cost, seeing as I set the rabbit running in the first place?




Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Not necessary.  I jumped on the rabbit willingly.

Thanks anyway...

Later...
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: Faulkwood on November 30, 2013, 01:54:55 AM
Hi Sam

This is Carrie, the writer of the system.

Anyway, I couldn't remember your name or email specifically but I knew it had Sam in it.

I remember your writing me about creating a bot and I wasn't particularly interested because I didn't think the system was well suited for bot play, as you mention there are some rules. (I don't think they're complicated but I guess that's a matter of opinion.)

By accident I found you as I did a search and noticed you on the forum discussing the system and the bot, as you had mentioned to me previously.

However, the reason I was trying to re-locate you is that I was working on a new system and I thought of you as I thought it would be great to test it that way, plus I think I would personally like having it in software form for online play.

I'll try looking in my old email folder to see if I can find your address as I was interested in having the new system coded for testing via bot.

Of course, as before, I expect you will not share it. However, if it works out, of course I will make it available. If you are still interested in doing a bot, email me so that I can send you the method.

Thanks.
Title: Re: A TESTER FOR: The 17-21 Roulette System
Post by: TwoCatSam on November 30, 2013, 03:13:56 AM
Carrie

I am always available for testing things.  I am twocatsam [at] cox [dot] net

As always, I am discreet.

Sam

[I edited your email address, mate. Left as it was spam email-harvesters would have found it, and your inbox would suffer greatly! esoito]