Has anyone else had this HG email sent them today?
Yes, its another HG to pick from.........
So many to choose ............................ :o
IHG - Izak's Holy Grail
Dear Let's Talk Winning subscribers, customers, friends,
People often ask me if there was only one system I would use to make consistent profits, which one would it be? I have developed so far 56 systems and I usually use multiple systems of mine, but if there is one system that I keep coming back to it year after year, I can tell confidently that this is the one: It is my own Holy Grail (http://www.letstalkwinning.com/IHG.htm).
Some players say, the Holy Grail is not the system, but the player. He/she must know how to act when a bad run/shoe is encountered, how to take advantage of winning runs, how to quit with profits, to know when to enter the game and when to exit and how to keep the profits permanently.
The player needs to decide how to behave at different circumstances. That's true, but this behavior must meet certain conditions. One has to act one way or another based on certain criteria. If this criteria is different every time, then this holy grail becomes just one's gut feeling. If the criteria is the same every time and every time one achieves good results doing so, then this holy grail becomes systematic and it can be defined with a certain set of rules.
IHG (http://www.letstalkwinning.com/IHG.htm) does exactly that. Every system will have its weak points, its nemesis, either in the bet selection or within the bet method. One needs to act upon those weaknesses properly. If the losses then can be minimized by applying those principles, then the profits take over, thus we have a consistently profitable system.
IHG is based on existing principles. The idea is to use the right combinations. Like in nutrition, one must consume the correct food combinations. It is not good, for instance, to combine carbs and proteins within the same dinner, as this causes undesired extra fat. You may be surprised, but eating a tiny hamburger, containing bread (carbohydrate) and a piece of meat (protein) will cause more fat than a huge steak, green vegetables and a large salad. Just this simple formula alone, including not adding sugar to your proteins, could resolve the obesity problem in North America.
In IHG also, the right combination of the bet selection and the bet method is very important. Since every bet selection and bet method have their nemesis, one has to apply the proper parameters in order not to get caught in those nemesis. This will strip off the system's weaknesses. The remaining portion of the system will be sturdy and rock solid. Those are the constituents of my Holy Grail.
The nemesis are not failing points. They are the parameters, which let us take the proper decisions when they occur. Since we always apply the same parameters, those decisions are taken systematically. We can see below a performance chart of IHG. When the graph goes slightly lower during the consistently increasing profit chart, those are the instances of the nemesis. As one can see in the chart below, the graph portion going down is considerably smaller than the portion of the graph going upwards, meaning that the nemesis are properly contained and controlled:
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IHG has been generating over 3000 units in average on a yearly basis, playing about 500 shoes a year, year after year, for the past 12 years. This live performance is the best evidence for long term testing, much better than testing over Zumma tester books.
In any event, I still took Zumma's first half (500 shoes) of the 1K tester book, just as a sample, to see if the performance of Zumma will be similar to live. And there it was. Over 500 shoes, it indeed generates 3616.45 units in Baccarat, commissions taken into account. This simulation will be given to you upon your purchase of the system document.
IHG applies to all even bets and has been used for Roulette (Reds/Blacks, Evens/Odds, Highs/Lows), for Craps (Pass Line/Don't Pass Line), for Baccarat (Player/Banker), for Sic-Bo (Small/Big), etc.
One of the nemesis handling parameters is the setting of the highest bet limit and it is 45 for IHG. The above performance is achieved with this parameter requiring a lifetime bankroll not larger than 171 units.
The high bet limit is a trigger to take a certain action. If it hasn't been reached yet, one still places the next bet, which determines if the run closes. The highest bet ever placed in this sample of 500 shoes was 88 units, which matches my live play very closely.
You can experiment with the high bet limit value and you will be amazed that even with a lower high bet limit, such as 23, the 500 shoes will generate an end profit of more than 1100 units, which is suitable for lower budgets.
One places bets on every decision using IHG. There is absolutely no tracking required. The only time bets are interrupted are within the nemesis control region and this interruption is usually quite short. So the system is very dynamic. It's excellent for casinos requiring the placing of the bets at all times when one is seated at a table.
The system is only 14 pages of easy reading. IHG is a combination of a few formulae, the best ones.
IHG goes only for $95. If it's the Holy Grail, you will wonder how come it's so inexpensive. Well, that's because I'd like to share it with all of you. At a high price, the secret would remain mine only. If you win a lot with it (I know you will), you may want to send me a bonus, which I would gladly accept.
Your satisfaction is guaranteed. If not, you can have a full refund totally unconditionally within 30 days of your purchase, no strings attached, no questions asked.
Click here (https://secure.letstalkwinning.com/) to order.
Thank you,
Izak Matatya
Wishing you all the best.
Izak
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This is what we do ... 100 for the strategy and e divide it into 10 members who share the strategy and pay 10 each.
Still i don't think it is worth it.
Aha!, which version of Izak's "Infallible" Baccarat System are we up to now? :P
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If it's the Holy Grail, you will wonder how come it's so inexpensive. Well, that's because I'd like to share it with all of you.
Such selfless altruism!
Although in fairness, Izak
has honoured his money back guarantees in the past, so I suppose it's low risk.
The thing is, you have to remember that guys like Izak have nothing to lose either. They will always sell some systems, and most people won't ask for a refund even if it doesn't live up to the claims.
OK, I may just buy it!!
I won't share it if works; I believe in free enterprise. I would tell if it doesn't or does.
Who votes for TwoCat to spend his hard earned retirement money??
Who?
Who?
(Is there an owl in here?)
TwoCat
Do you belive in that SCAM as old as the sun? :nope:
Please do not throw your money buying such rubbish.
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Dang, Normy...It wasn't THAT much money!!
I can always cancel the credit card. He offers a thirty-day guarantee.
So-----------two votes against the idea.
Sam
:P
funny isn't it....i didn't even read it....and wasn't interested.
Interesting developments............
After Izak had sent me that email, I returned a cheeky reply to him, asking if I could have a copy, for testing, of his HG, and that I had mentioned his email, in our forum.
I usually do, and most of time I never hear back from the sender...............but today is a new day...and guess what has just popped up into my Inbox?
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Sure, Chris, why not. I will do so as long as you do not reveal the contents of the system, but only your findings. And please provide a link to my site:
http://www.letstalkwinning.com (http://www.letstalkwinning.com/)
Please find the system and its 500 Zumma shoes sample attached.
Thank you and best regards,
Izak
[/size]www.letstalkwinning.com (http://www.letstalkwinning.com/)
So, having complied with his wish for a link to his site, I will read, study, and report my findings here.
Stay tuned.
Quote from: Chrisbis on May 31, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Interesting developments............
After Izak had sent me that email, I returned a cheeky reply to him, asking if I could have a copy, for testing, of his HG, and that I had mentioned his email, in our forum.
I usually do, and most of time I never hear back from the sender...............but today is a new day...and guess what has just popped up into my Inbox?
So, having complied with his wish for a link to his site, I will read, study, and report my findings here.
Stay tuned.
Nice done, really cool.
I will follow this topic and ask question when you post your findings.
Cheers
Very interesting EC's decision bet.
The presentation, is on Bacc, but the Bet Selection Style, will also suit Roulette EC, any one of them.
Reasonably simple to follow, and chart................no real depth of tracking required.
(I don't think I have revealed any method here, just general comments, some of which are in the intro email)
Report on casino progress to come. :)
Well fair play to Izak for putting his money where his mouth is. Nice one Chris!
Quote from: Chrisbis on May 31, 2013, 09:24:26 PM
Very interesting EC's decision bet.
The presentation, is on Bacc, but the Bet Selection Style, will also suit Roulette EC, any one of them.
Reasonably simple to follow, and chart................no real depth of tracking required.
(I don't think I have revealed any method here, just general comments, some of which are in the intro email)
Report on casino progress to come. :)
How come you find the selection interesting, you wrote (Very interesting EC's decision bet).
What i know so do i have the best development that exist for even Money bets, so what is so special about his approch ?
Does he use bet selection, patterns, clustering events or a march/algorimth ?
You should discuss his method with greater information, then just easy to chart and interesting decision bet !!!
Well, with all respect to all your wishes Ego, I have been sent this IHG and been asked not to reveal the system...just post my findings.
I will talk about the framework of the bet, since it DOES fall into a framework style of BetSelection, again, I don't think I am giving away much there.
And....... since from what I have read at his site, and the ideas he has,
he is well known for having Framework type bets & systems.
One thing I will say, is I have read something very similar in the Old Sister forum, posted by George (GLC), and his plethora of EC type bets! :o
What I will say is [revealB] more like a "responsive" bet that a direct "Pattern" bet[/revealB]
Chrisbis
You know, the man trusted you and you are giving hints.
In my humble opinion as one who has been trusted with many systems, you might want to consider just saying, "It works." or "it doesn't work." Beyond that you are giving hints.
Hope you don't take offense.
Sam
Non taken at all Sam.................tho there are clues in the cover email.
I will heed your "savvy" words my friend.
I works as well as any EC method then...............how's that!
Need to full test on it, nut I'm testing out other stuff at the moment, like 1 in 9 from the other forum...very interesting too!
Can not beat having enough systems and ideas up your "Sleeve" so2speak!
Chris, I would strongly urge you to get it tested properly before you report back with your results. By "properly" I mean coded. I don't have time to do it ATM, but maybe another coder on the forum would be interested, or perhaps you could contact imspirit (http://imspirit.wordpress.com/).
If anyone has the zumma book, the system should at least be tested on the first 500 shoes, over which Izak claims the system has made 3616 units.
Most of Izak's work are based upon reverse engineering. If he claims of first 500 shoes, one should rather test later 500 shoes. I can provide help with zumma. PM me for that.
Here me now and believe me later: If you had the results of 500 honest shoes--I don't care where they came from--and you could reverse engineer a system to make all of them win, you would have the "Holy Grail".
Anyone want to point out how ignorant I am for that statement??
I've played a lot of Back-A-Rat!! I don't even know how to count the wins for certain. Something about 7 or 8 or draw another card if the dealer's nose itches....something!. All I need to see is a P or B.
If you can win on 500 shoes--any 500--then you have the "Holy Grail".
Sam
24K baccarat has officially beaten zumma 1000 and zumma 600, i.e. 1600 shoes but it is not a grail.
Sam,
You make a fair point, 500 shoes is over 35000 hands of baccarat, and if you're betting every hand, that's an awful lot of decisions to reverse engineer.
But still, I think it could be done.
@ Al, any chance you could upload the Zumma 1000 shoes here?
Quote from: Bayes on May 31, 2013, 02:29:44 PM
ask for a refund even if it doesn't live up to the claims.
'Even if'? You mean Izak had a system that did what
he said it would do? You mean WHEN it doesn't live
up to its claims, not if it does..
Quote from: Bayes on June 01, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
@ Al, any chance you could upload the Zumma 1000 shoes here?
Please :D
Can some one explain for me why you need 1000 zumma.
Silly if you ask me, when you have random org, my opinion.
You beat random org you beat any zumma Collection or real baccarat game, simple as that.
Quote[size=78%]@ Al, any chance you could upload the Zumma 1000 shoes here?[/size]
Bayes and Normy and my other friends,
Zumma is a copyrighted stuff and this forum of ours is an open forum. Do you still want me to upload it here? I am sending a copy of both zumma 1000 and zumma 600 in excel format to Normy2000. Anybody else if requires this, please email me.
Quote from: Sputnik on June 01, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
Can some one explain for me why you need 1000 zumma.
Silly if you ask me, when you have random org, my opinion.
You beat random org you beat any zumma Collection or real baccarat game, simple as that.
Buddy, I do refer to random.org to generate random sessions of roulette where all 37 or 38 numbers are truly equal in all parameters and have the same probability to appear. When we talk of baccarat, unless an RNG is not configured to keep the statistical difference between Player and Banker bets due to slight tilt in the favor of "Banker" due to the drawing rules (I can write an entire topic explaining as to why Banker and Player are not true ECs like Red/Black of Roulette). The banker bet actually wins a little more often than its counterpart player. With all hands considered, banker wins 45.86 percent of the time, player wins 44.62 percent, and 9.52 percent of hands result in ties. Since the ties push, banker wins 50.68 percent of the time when there is a decision, and player wins 49.32 percent of time. Unless, random.org incorporates the difference between player and banker in its generator, it will treat them as Equal Chance and the results seen may be faulty.
Many thanks Albalaha, :thumbsup: ;)
I know that, but still don't see the point not using random org, the slight difference between P and B is so tiny so your system or any existing strategy will not notice, if you don't just play B ... just silly, my opinion.
Of course it makes a difference hence the casino takes 5% winnings other wise it's a positive EV game and you could flat bet your way to victory.
Quote from: Sputnik on June 02, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
I know that, but still don't see the point not using random org, the slight difference between P and B is so tiny so your system or any existing strategy will not notice, if you don't just play B ... just silly, my opinion.
Well, from my point of view it makes sense to use the zumma 1000 because those were the shoes which Izak used and claimed to have made the profits, so if the system is going to be coded (by me or anyone else) then one of the first things which should be done is to check this. If it turns out that the zumma shoes DO make the stated number of units, but the system fails on other shoes, then there's a good chance that it was reverse engineered. On the other hand, if the zumma shoes result in a big loss, then we know that the whole thing is a scam and that Izak is lying.
Is it just me..........
When you buy something that is copyrighted, is it OK to tell another person the system? Even a coder is another person. For this reason, I think if someone had something that was truly fantastic, they would never share it. It could go world wide before they could finish their coffee.
Not saying you would do that Bayes, just raising a question.
Sam
Sam,
Izak has something that is truly fantastic, and IS willing to share it. ...for the knock-down price of $95. ::)
Why do I get the feeling that nobody cares about this one way or the other? Chris hasn't reported any of his testing results, maybe he's moved on to the next HG. :P
If necessary, I'll contact Izak himself and ask him for a copy of the system so that I can verify that it does in fact make the profits he's claimed.
He didn't buy it but was given it.
And you answer your own Q TCS, if it was THAT great Chris wouldn't have it.
Izak should have given it to a coder in the first place.
Maybe Juiced is right; if it were any good he wouldn't be selling it anyway. And surely not giving a copy away.
Just my 2 cents, i coded that "I HG" (or 99.9%. like it) about 2 years ago and guess what?
My customer came back and asked for little changes in it! Wonder why? >:D
Have a nice day every one! :beer:
[edit] I remember it was 2 day after 911 birthday: 11-11-11
Theoretically a person with a winning system could sell their method even for a small price.
Even if you were to post a winning method showing stats, results etc all it would take is one "person" saying that it doesn't work.
I don't think that revealing a winning system would mean that the game is over.
There are millions of casino visitors, only a few of them on a forum.
Unless you read that specific thread or by chance know somebody that has read it you will never know about it let alone believe it.
Izak....(Why do I want to call him "Itzak"?)
Izak did not say it would win every shoe. And he did say the simulation was included, so why would Chris need to simulate that which is already simulated?
He could do random checks and see if his results matched Izak's. The very first time he found a discrepancy would be a red flag to me.
AMK
Yes, I agree. Few would even see it if it were the holy thingy. Few would play it or take the time to learn it. My point is just that if Izak really has a system that will make money, everyone who makes money using it should pay him.
It's like the all-you-can-eat buffet where one buys and three eat. If you eat, you should pay.
I'm still thinking seriously about buying. After all, there is nothing to lose. My CC will just credit me for the amount and his guarantee will prevent him from protesting.
Things like this intrigue me!!
Sam
At GG there was a competition about different systems.
A coder code 10 different systems, one of them was made by Izak and it came second place.
Just mention it as i remember it now.
We could look at this way.
Izak has created a lot of methods with "sound" logic, perhaps more then any of us.
He must know a lot about the game.
Can all of his methods be as great as he advertises, not possible.
Could just one of them, his best one, be on point?
Possibly, but which one.
All of his methods are playable in general but none has an edge which anybody can look for. A method may be good for one data sample and can be the worst on another. He has been making false claims about all of his systems and he is a master of reverse engineering.
[mod] That last sentence, Al -- unless you can substantiate it with cold, hard evidence then you should remove what can only be construed as libel. You claim to have legal training which makes your unsubstantiated claim all the more concerning. [/mod]
But I think the valid question here is if someone is ready to give money back guarantee and has earlier kept their promises what is the harm in getting it and ditching it in the future even if it's a scam. Dismissing free things just because of a person's past is like following a table for a number for some spins and then not playing that number on a bonus round and realize that the the number has appeared finally.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 02, 2013, 10:07:47 PM
I'm still thinking seriously about buying.
Sam, I really wouldn't bother. A member sent me a copy of it today and it seems to be almost the same as his later "Infallible Baccarat Systems"; version 10 was coded by ImSpirit (http://imspirit.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/baccarat-simulation-series-33-results/) a couple of years ago.Izak must be running out of ideas. ::)
Quote from: Bayes on June 03, 2013, 06:02:09 PM
Sam, I really wouldn't bother. A member sent me a copy of it today and it seems to be almost the same as his later "Infallible Baccarat Systems"; version 10 was coded by ImSpirit (http://imspirit.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/baccarat-simulation-series-33-results/) a couple of years ago.
Izak must be running out of ideas. ::)
I already stated this.
QuoteModerator Comment
That last sentence, Al -- unless you can substantiate it with cold, hard evidence then you should remove what can only be construed as libel. You claim to have legal training which makes your unsubstantiated claim all the more concerning
TRUTH is the biggest defense against any allegation of defamation. A few systems of his specially IBS 9 has been tested by imspirit.wordpress.com, which is one of the best blogs upon gambling systems realities. He just did not put reverse engineering once but if you go through his CYL 2 system, it is solely based on that. In this system, author has beaten 1000 shoes of zumma1000, with a net profit .
OK, someone sent me the system, too! Guess what? I have the Zuma tester. Bought it years ago.
I don't think Izak is a scammer. I can't tell you why, but hear me now and believe me later. Hey, let's give it a little testication......
Someone pick 10 shoes from 501 on up and I'll duplicate his sheet and test those ten shoes. Should anyone want, I'll scan and paste the shoes from the Zuma.
Don't you love a good test??
Samster
Good to see ya TwoCat,
Something completely different.
Hope you might have followed basketball.
Why did Pippen not join Jordan when he played for the Wizards?
Would have been sweet!
Sorry, AMK, my life is consumed with other things. I do watch the THUNDER now and then since they are the home-town team. KD gave a million bucks to the Moore tornado victims. People don't get much better than that....
Anyway, since no one had time to rattle of ten numbers between 501 and 1,000, I ask Random.org to do it.
The test begins...........
-85
Normy
You've answered "-85", so I assume you meant to post on my other thread, "Want to guess Sam's I.Q.?"
Sam
??? Did not know IQ can be negative :P
It's the result of the 10 choozen shoes! 8)
Quote from: nOrMy2o0o on June 04, 2013, 12:28:07 PM
??? Did not know IQ can be negative :P
What about George W Bush?
Quote from: Turner on June 04, 2013, 01:34:32 PM
What about George W Bush?
Now my guess is -185 :nod:
All methods of Izak look good but they always fail in real tests. Test more and you can be sure of this.
Normy
So your guess is the 10 shoes will lose 85 units. Very good!
Would anyone else hazard a guess?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 04, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Normy
So your guess is the 10 shoes will lose 85 units. Very good!
Would anyone else hazard a guess?
Sam
:nod:
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 04, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Normy
So your guess is the 10 shoes will lose 85 units. Very good!
Would anyone else hazard a guess?
Sam
-1 unit ;)
OK, I have begun the learning process. It is not easy!!
I have just finished the first shoe and have some mistakes. Will re-do it. This is looking very good!
No one will guess in the plus?? Oh, ye of little faith!
I guess--very conservatively--+100 units for the ten shoes.
Very easy addition error to correct.
Results:
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 15 units with the largest bet being 5 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 28 units with the largest bet being 7 units
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 42 units with the largest bet being 11 units
OK, this is boring.
Any comments?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 04, 2013, 07:21:35 PM
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 42 units with the largest bet being 11 units
OK, this is boring.
Any comments?
A drawdown of 42 units on the normal green table is just over $1000.
This doesn't look all that good, just from that perspective!
AD
I keep my -85 >:D
Wow. Tough crowd!!
Did you hear the one about...............?
Ya got me thinkin Sam.
Most of us have not seen a method beat 1 million spins, perhaps we never shall.
We all agree that all methods perform well for jussss a short amount of time and then....
I think I have to go back to an old thread of mine. If I randomly select a method on the forum to play for jusssst a short amount of time, I think I might jussss come out on top....
Who has 1 million spins? Are they randomly generated? What is the criteria for beating 1 million spins, is it remaining at positive at the end?
I think you know what I mean GreatGrampa, after all we all know you are great : )
May I ask what you think about my approach of randomly playing a method from the forum for jussss a short amount of time, then selecting a new method?
I won't be around for a million spins.
This little test is merely to see if Izak is lying. If I win ten shoes, I don't think he is. I will then go to Dublin and play for dollars.
Jusssssss my point of view!!
Samster
Why don't you skip straight to playing at dublin?
weddings
Two reasons:
1. I don't know the system well enough to play it in real time.
2. I'm a scardy-cat!
Sam
Quote from: AMK on June 04, 2013, 10:31:25 PM
I think you know what I mean GreatGrampa, after all we all know you are great : )
May I ask what you think about my approach of randomly playing a method from the forum for jussss a short amount of time, then selecting a new method?
Hey AMK
No offence meant. People often talk about million spins. I just wanted to know what is the criteria :)
I think the whole 1M spins h.g is old hat...roulette ideas have moved on since tubogenius. Some people can't stand to lose.....more so....can't stand the thought of others thinking they lose.
Losing has to go hand in hand with winning or you are just chasing a mythical.....well.....Holy Grail!
Quote from: Turner on June 05, 2013, 08:41:09 AM
more so....can't stand the thought of others thinking they lose.
This to my opinion is the biggest hindrance in learning and adopting. If this cannot be overcome, it will be a David-Goliath, Hare-tortoise story at the end!
I am not what I am.
I am not what I think I am.
I am what I think you think I am.
That it, guys?
More reports to come when I get over this blazin' headache.
Sam, when you get over your headache would you mind posting the first few decisions in the FIRST shoe of zumma 1000 or 600 (whichever you have). I now have the zumma shoes and it seems they've been sorted by the % of bankers in each shoe, but I want them in the order they come in the original book. Just checking.
Many thanks. :thumbsup:
Here's what I think should be the first 15 hands in shoe #1 of Zumma 600:
B,B,B,B,P,B,B,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,P
can you confirm?
Bayes
I'm not over the headache, but I'll do it!! :cheer:
This is the 1,000 tester, mind you.
Shoe 1 and spin 1 on down
PPP
BB
PPP
B
PP
B
P
BB
P
BBBBBBB
I did not know there was a 600; I have the 1,000
I did check the sheet Izak attached and he is using the correct shoes.
Sam
Thanks, they check out ok. :thumbsup:
OK, made a few errors in calculations. Figured the draw down from the highest point to the lowest point. The draw down is now the depth into your bankroll.
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 657 had a loss of 03 units with a draw down of 37 units with the largest bet being 39 units.
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 657 had a loss of 03 units with a draw down of 37 units with the largest bet being 39 units.
Shoe 652 had a loss of 41 units with a draw down of 41 units with the largest bet being 49 units.
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 657 had a loss of 03 units with a draw down of 37 units with the largest bet being 39 units.
Shoe 652 had a loss of 41 units with a draw down of 41 units with the largest bet being 49 units.
Shoe 931 had a loss of 52 units with a draw down of 52 units with the largest bet being 32 units.
Two more shoes to pull Izak's fat out of the fire!!
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 657 had a loss of 03 units with a draw down of 37 units with the largest bet being 39 units.
Shoe 652 had a loss of 41 units with a draw down of 41 units with the largest bet being 49 units.
Shoe 931 had a loss of 52 units with a draw down of 52 units with the largest bet being 32 units.
Shoe 592 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 39 units with the largest bet being 42 units.
Whoope D Doo...............2 units ahead
Shoe 649 had a profit of 21 units with a draw down of 02 units with the largest bet being 04 units.
Shoe 561 had a profit of 18 units with a draw down of 03 units with the largest bet being 07 units.
Shoe 894 had a profit of 15 units with a draw down of 19 units with the largest bet being 19 units.
Shoe 673 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 01 units with the largest bet being 14 units.
Shoe 884 had a profit of 16 units with a draw down of 00 units with the largest bet being 05 units.
Shoe 657 had a loss of 03 units with a draw down of 37 units with the largest bet being 39 units.
Shoe 652 had a loss of 41 units with a draw down of 41 units with the largest bet being 49 units.
Shoe 931 had a loss of 52 units with a draw down of 52 units with the largest bet being 32 units.
Shoe 592 had a profit of 14 units with a draw down of 39 units with the largest bet being 42 units.
Shoe 515 had a loss of 65 units. Loss for tens shoes = 63 units.
Do i win anything? >:D
If -63 is the fate of 10 random shoes, it is certain that there is nothing in this system that can ensure win more and lose less. It is nothing else but a fake Holy Grail. Another shill from Izak, as I expected. I am hearing nothing from "the originator", my crisbis, regarding this HG.
Busy on another project. :broken:
Looks like others have it covered anyway.
Its not a "Win all the Time" HG..............
Something very similar has been coded previously too.......... ::)
Gents
I do realize that 10 shoes is no definative test. 100 shoes would not be either. This was just a random sample, if Random.Org is random. LOL
This was a way for me to have a good look at the system and see how it played in comparison to the one I already have. They are very similar.
Not wanting to brag on Sam, but I saw at least two ways to greatly improve on this system. But I wanted to try it "right out of the box" and see what happened.
When people rail so hard against something, I just have to have a look at it.
The Preacher went to see the movie, "The Life Of Brian" and told us, "I have seen the movie; you don't need to." I immediately went to see the movie.
Izak's idea is not all that bad. Maybe not the "Grail", but not all that bad.
Sam
So the holy hand grenade of antioch need not be deployed?
Izak`s e-mail was filtered into my spam folder and it met the same fate as all the rest : summarily deleted.
ND
Sam....you are not the son of God, you are just a very naughty boy.
Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 07, 2013, 04:38:21 PM
Izak`s e-mail was filtered into my spam folder and it met the same fate as all the rest : summarily deleted.
ND
lol ND...."the voice of reason! "
I mentally filtered it into the recycle bin in my head after reading the first few lines of the first post.
Dear Let's Talk Winning subscribers, customers, friends,People often ask me if there was only one system I would use to make consistent profits, which one would it be? I have developed so far 56 systems and I usually use multiple systems of mine, but if there is one system that I keep coming back to it year after year, I can tell confidently that this is the one: It is my own Holy Grail (http://www.letstalkwinning.com/IHG.htm). <<<<<<<Here is the actual moment I rang the bell on Izaks bus and asked his driver to let me off
The funniest thing about Izak is, all 56 of his methods win thousands of chips. No failure, at all.
Hello Albalaha,
Forgive me, but I wanted to discuss the very interesting topic of "releasing the grail".
If the grail was released and I told others (if it exists) nobody would believe me until they see me with stacks of money, literally.
The "holy grail", by definition, I think should benefit all. The casinos worldwide hold billions, 400 billion to be exact. http://www.gbgc.com/2012/02/2011-global-gambling-revenues-passed-us-400-billion/ (http://www.gbgc.com/2012/02/2011-global-gambling-revenues-passed-us-400-billion/) Plenty for a lot of people to benefit. The casinos might have trillions, I only say this because 400 billion is their yearly revenue (at least for 2011).
By donating ? +-20%,50% 80%?? of your winnings to food charities, for example, would guarantee that this grail is helping others.
Lets play! : )
Quote from: Turner on June 07, 2013, 05:12:35 PM
Sam....you are not the son of God, you are just a very naughty boy.
Turner
Frankly, I don't understand any of that. OK, I take that back. I'll blue the parts I understand.
Sam
AMK,
A wise system (let's not talk about my HG) has to have a check over bet size and there has to be a reasonable stop loss which one can afford to lose in a bad day. Izak said that the max bet will be 45 units and one 171 units buy in should suffice for long time while he himself used a max bet of 88 units within first 500 shoes. How many of you can dare to place 88 units in a game of baccarat, in one go?
His betselection is not at all wise. It is simple "go with the flow". Izak forgot the fundamental that flow equally tends to finish than to continue. All pattern playing is equal and same. No pattern covers more than half chances to win, in baccarat or any other game of chance.
I do not play much of baccarat but I analysed both of zumma books i.e. 1000 and 600 (I call them zumma 1600 together removing all "Tie" decisions). You can see that here: http://albalaha.lefora.com/2012/12/25/see-how-5-different-kind-of-bet-selections-perform/ (http://albalaha.lefora.com/2012/12/25/see-how-5-different-kind-of-bet-selections-perform/)
I have opened my private exclusive forum as a blog. You can refer it, if you feel like.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 07, 2013, 11:26:58 PM
Turner
Frankly, I don't understand any of that. OK, I take that back. I'll blue the parts I understand.
Sam
Sam, it's a reference to Monty Python's "Life of Brian", which a lot of Christians didn't see the funny side of.
Very Naughty Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOuWWzP7wl0#)
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 07, 2013, 12:38:49 PM
The Preacher went to see the movie, "The Life Of Brian" and told us, "I have seen the movie; you don't need to." I immediately went to see the movie.
Sam
it's a line out the movie you went to see Sam....as Bayes said
(And I quoted it wrong.....its Messiah, not Son of God)
Python fans tend to do a lot of Python quoting.
Anyhow.......
Bayes and Turner
Gents, I can't tell you how relieved I am. I thought I had committed some un-pardonable sin.
See, it's been a long time since I saw the movie. The only line I remember was Brian telling people to think for themselves.
Not bad advice for roulette players either.
Sam
"You silly sod, you got us all worked up"! : )
Monty Python-Killer Rabbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmu5sRIizdw#)
Guys,
Aren't we going too much off topic?
I talked to Izak recently regarding this.
You can see the conversation and his clarifications here: http://albalaha.lefora.com/2013/07/28/my-chat-with-izak-matatya-over-his-systems-special/#post0 (http://albalaha.lefora.com/2013/07/28/my-chat-with-izak-matatya-over-his-systems-special/#post0)
An interesting read Albalaha, thank you.
Quote10:09am Izak Matatya
I went through the 7 pages of discussions.[...]
...Ah! At least we know Izak has read here :)